USPGA championship 2016

paulie21

Baltusrol GC, New Jersey 28-31 July

Interesting groupings:

Harrington, Daly, Singh
Lowry, Furyk, Molinari
Watson, Speith, Garcia
Willett, D Johnson, Stenson
McDowell, Simpson, Louis
Fowler, Els, Z Johnson
McIlroy, Day, Mickleson

The Rape of Lucretia

Harrington, Daly, Singh ; The has-beens - "Are they not just on the Senior tour now?" Group
Lowry, Furyk, Molinari : The minority interest group
Watson, Speith, Garcia The two serious contenders and a guy not good enough to win majors Group
Willett, D Johnson, Stenson The Three Serious Contenders Group
McDowell, Simpson, Louis The Middle rankers Group
Fowler, Els, Z Johnson The interesting Group
McIlroy, Day, Mickleson The Seriously Interesting Group

Mushy

I feel the move of this competition has impacted any buildup of enjoyment for me. Really wish there was something that made it stand out, like having it as matchplay.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Mushy wrote: »

I feel the move of this competition has impacted any buildup of enjoyment for me. Really wish there was something that made it stand out, like having it as matchplay.

They've only moved it by a couple of weeks.Why would they have it as match play, particularly since they stopped it being a match play event years ago because it wasn't good for TV.

Mushy

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Mushy wrote: »

I feel the move of this competition has impacted any buildup of enjoyment for me. Really wish there was something that made it stand out, like having it as matchplay.

They've only moved it by a couple of weeks.Why would they have it as match play, particularly since they stopped it being a match play event years ago because it wasn't good for TV.

Just feel it's too close to the Open. Obviously not a permanent move so not a permanent thing.

Its current format makes it a poorer US Open, making it somewhat distinct would benefit it. Masters and the Opens are distinctive, USPGA isn't imo.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Mushy wrote: »

Just feel it's too close to the Open. Obviously not a permanent move so not a permanent thing.

Its current format makes it a poorer US Open, making it somewhat distinct would benefit it. Masters and the Opens are distinctive, USPGA isn't imo.

Fair enough , but how do you make it distinct without making it match play (which won't happen)?

Mushy

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Mushy wrote: »

Just feel it's too close to the Open. Obviously not a permanent move so not a permanent thing.

Its current format makes it a poorer US Open, making it somewhat distinct would benefit it. Masters and the Opens are distinctive, USPGA isn't imo.

Fair enough , but how do you make it distinct without making it match play (which won't happen)?

Only way I could think would maybe have it on American links courses (Whistling Straits, Shinnecock Hills type). Be similar to the Open but would look rather distinctive!

Still going to enjoy the event though, some good pairings for the first two days.

Golfgraffix

Combine it with the European and Asian Tours PGA and make it a worldwide event that moves around

thewobbler

Maybe leave it as it is?

Ask any player in history which tournament they wanted to win and it'll be 4th place in every list.

Always coming 4th in such a contest isn't something to be ashamed of.

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The make up of the majors isn't decided by the PGA or the media or sponsors. It's a virtue of history.

Sometimes history does just get it right.

HighLine

Golfgraffix wrote: »

Combine it with the European and Asian Tours PGA and make it a worldwide event that moves around

I hate any events out in Asia. All money driven and spectators sparse. And not being able to watch the weekend of a major live would really annoy me.

Dirty Dingus McGee

thewobbler wrote: »

Maybe leave it as it is?

Ask any player in history which tournament they wanted to win and it'll be 4th place in every list.

Always coming 4th in such a contest isn't something to be ashamed of.

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The make up of the majors isn't decided by the PGA or the media or sponsors. It's a virtue of history.

Sometimes history does just get it right.

Didn't Keegan Bradley say it was the one he wanted to win most after he won it.

martinkop

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Didn't Keegan Bradley say it was the one he wanted to win most after he won it.

:rolleyes:

LuckyGent88

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Didn't Keegan Bradley say it was the one he wanted to win most after he won it.

That's because his father is a PGA professional.

Dirty Dingus McGee

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

That's because his father is a PGA professional.

I know , I was just commenting that a recent winner said it was the one he wanted to win most of all and seemed genuine when he said it.

Not saying it's considered the same as than the others for everyone.

coylemj

I'd question the continue inclusion of the top 20 from the PGA National Championship, the vast majority of whom miss the cut year in, year out. This exemption/invitation category surely deprives 20 more deserving (and a lot more talented) tour professionals from the event. I know the PGA of America owns this tournament but surely the record of the players who qualify in this category is so bad that it needs to be removed or severely reduced - like to the top 5 or 10?

All it serves every year is to painfully highlight the vast gulf between the professionals playing on the main world tours and those in US clubs and academies.

First Up

coylemj wrote:

All it serves every year is to painfully highlight the vast gulf between the professionals playing on the main world tours and those in US clubs and academies.

I don't begrudge them one shot a year at it.

MYOPIA

How about trying to figure out who will win this week at Baltrusol ?
It is going to be hot and humid -- spectators being advised to bring there own water ( +salt ) .
Shane Lowry might consider shaving off that beard to avoid heat stroke .
Often won by an unheralded American ?
Maybe Kevin Chappel?

galwaylad14

Dave Stockton going to be on off the ball in a few minutes talking about Rory's putting. Should be decent

frink

Anyone know if there is an Android App for this? Can't find it in the store

HighLine

Just switched on some live coverage whilst on a break... After a monster drive by McIlroy, he leaves himself a wedge with 117 yards to go. Proceeds to miss the green. Groundhog day.

HighLine

And then walks off with a bogey. So poor after splitting the fairway with a monster drive. Been his story for a long time now.

galwaylad14

HighLine wrote: »

And then walks off with a bogey. So poor after splitting the fairway with a monster drive. Been his story for a long time now.

Could happen anyone, keep the faith.

HighLine

galwaylad14 wrote: »

Could happen anyone, keep the faith.

Well my point is that it has been this way for over a year and for someone of his talent, his wedge play is shockingly poor.

APPROACHES FROM 225-250 YARDS 40' 4" Rank - 3
APPROACHES FROM 100-125 YARDS 19' 8" Rank - 84
APPROACHES FROM 125-150 YARDS 24' 6" Rank - 148

LuckyGent88

Another bogey for Rory.

That bogey on 13 was just classic Rory this year with a shocking wedge shot.

Letree

HighLine wrote: »

Well my point is that it has been this way for over a year and for someone of his talent, his wedge play is shockingly poor.

APPROACHES FROM 225-250 YARDS 40' 4" Rank - 3
APPROACHES FROM 100-125 YARDS 19' 8" Rank - 84
APPROACHES FROM 125-150 YARDS 24' 6" Rank - 148

Combined with his poor putting he hasn't a hope unless he can improve those stats.

techdiver

Does anyone know why the Sky coverage only starts at 6pm? Is this another Augusta thing?

ForeRight

techdiver wrote: »

Does anyone know why the Sky coverage only starts at 6pm? Is this another Augusta thing?

I assume that's when the American broadcasters start live coverage which is who they get their feed from

LuckyGent88

Good man Rory, just play yourself out of the tournament in the first round again!!!

When you out in the early groups with perfect conditions they really need to be shooting under par.

dennyire

Rory plus 3 after 9

Mantis Toboggan

Very disappointing stuff from Rory, 8 shots off the lead already, really thought he a chance this week.

LuckyGent88

Another ****e wedge shot on the 1st. Day and mickelson 50 yards behind him off the tee and then end up 15ft closer than Rory. That's simply not good enough.

HighLine

And same story on the 1st (his 10th) for Rory... a 359!!! yard drive in the middle of the fairway... 114 yards left and hits it outside 20ft. Par.

vienne86

This putting from Rory is awful to watch - he's way out of sorts.

LuckyGent88

Bye bye Rory!!! Has lost his head now. Looks extremely frustrated. Already 9 shots back of the lead.

vienne86

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Bye bye Rory!!! Has lost his head now. Looks extremely frustrated. Already 9 shots back of the lead.

Phil on +4 now as well, but I'd have more hope for him turning things around than Rory, who's getting really angry with himself.

DEFTLEFTHAND

thewobbler wrote: »

Maybe leave it as it is?

Ask any player in history which tournament they wanted to win and it'll be 4th place in every list.

Always coming 4th in such a contest isn't something to be ashamed of.

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The make up of the majors isn't decided by the PGA or the media or sponsors. It's a virtue of history.

Sometimes history does just get it right.

It was the one I always wanted to win growing up because of the Wanamaker. :pac:

It has to be one of the most beautiful trophies in all of world sport, not just golf.

Macker1

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Bye bye Rory!!! Has lost his head now. Looks extremely frustrated. Already 9 shots back of the lead.

Not for the first time in his career he is clearly showing that his lack of mental resolve when things are not going well is an all too familiar trait.

Very disappointing as a fan to see him under perform.

vienne86

Fair play to Phil for fighting his way back to +1.

The Rape of Lucretia

Rory simply doesnt do fight backs. He throws the toys out of the pram and gives in. May well shoot something good tomorrow and indulge himself in the 'poor me' routine with rueful smiles as if fates cruelly letting him play good golf now when he is out of the reckoning, rather than recognise that it is his own mental weakness that keeps bombing him out of contention.

Rikand

Come on Beemer!

HighLine

Greens are starting to look very patchy. Will be interesting to see how they are come Sunday.

LuckyGent88

Lads in afternoon facing a much harder test. Anything around level or 1 under would be a very good score.

Kaymer going very well and has been in great form.

Still a lot of big names really struggling this afternoon as well

Kingswood Rover

Ant good streams, my usual 3 are acting up tonight

vienne86

I thought DJ would go really well on this course, but he's 6 over. Is he knackered after the Open and also playing in Canada last week?

LuckyGent88

DJ having an absolute mare!!

Letree

I would like to see rickie fowler do it but i'm not sore he as the bottle

Armchair Andy

I'm not too gone on the course tbh. Greens a bit finicky on some chip shots and the grain in the rough about the only feature on the course.

So stensons caddie had a bet with Stenson if he won a major he had to give up smoking.

Interviewed this week, 5 times a day I really want a smoke I wish Phil had shot a 61 and beat us but it goes away quickly.

Letree

Letree wrote: »

I would like to see rickie fowler do it but i'm not sore he as the bottle

Id like to see that too in fairness to Rickie though he hasnt really bottled too much although I guess it depends on ones interpetation of the phrase

galwaylad14

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Rory simply doesnt do fight backs. He throws the toys out of the pram and gives in. May well shoot something good tomorrow and indulge himself in the 'poor me' routine with rueful smiles as if fates cruelly letting him play good golf now when he is out of the reckoning, rather than recognise that it is his own mental weakness that keeps bombing him out of contention.

Doesn't do fight backs? How many times this year alone has he come from pretty much nowhere on a Sunday to get a top 10?

So many people on here and Irish people in general love to put the boot in on McIlroy. He's a class act but just had a bad day yesterday.

He's only 27 and has won 4 majors. 2 years without one now it looks like but he'll be back. He's not going to win every week

Tom.D.BJJ

Rikand wrote: »

Come on Beemer!

Just reading his book at the moment. Funny guy