Drink guidelines

Jesus.

Does anyone else think the new drinking guidelines sound a bit daft? It used to be 10.5 pints per week for blokes and now its down to 8.5.

Seven per week and not per night!!


(For women its even less)

intheclouds

Jesus. wrote: »

Does anyone else think the new drinking guidelines sound a bit daft? It used to be 10.5 pints per week for blokes and now its down to 7.

Seven per week and not per night!!


(For women its even less)

Have you a link?

Dr Crayfish

Seriously who gives a sh*t we're all going to die of something eventually

GLaDOS

Its not like anyone follows the guidelines anyway

Jesus.

I was just going on a snippet I heard on the radio. Its actually 17 units for men (roughly 8.5 pints) and 11 units for women. It was 21 for men.

http://www.drinkaware.ie/facts/what-are-the-low-risk-weekly-guidelines?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=lowrisk

Speedwell

It makes it a bit difficult for someone like me, who is not much of a drinker, to be taken seriously when I point out to my husband that the amount he drinks might be exacerbating certain of his health problems. No, he doesn't have anything like a drinking problem, but the amount he drinks at a given time could be triggering a certain kind of migraine he is prone to, for example. I can cite official guidelines till I'm blue in the face only for him to respond, "Don't be having a go at me, I don't even have as much as most people", and he's right.

jamesbere

Guidelines, you mean challenges.

Jesus.

jamesbere wrote: »

Guidelines, you mean challenges.

Not much of a challenge though James. One and a bit pints per day!

intheclouds

Jesus. wrote: »

I was just going on a snippet I heard on the radio. Its actually 17 units for men (roughly 8.5 pints) and 11 units for women. It was 21 for men.

http://www.drinkaware.ie/facts/what-are-the-low-risk-weekly-guidelines?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=lowrisk

Ah good. Im just under most weeks.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

8.5 pints a week? Shur I have that pre-drinking before a night out...

GLaDOS

Id be under most weeks myself, a sign that my social life isnt the best

SEPT 23 1989

I keep confusing pints with units

jamesbere

Jesus. wrote: »

Not much of a challenge though James. One and a bit pints per day!

How many weekly "guidelines" can you do in a day challenge

Captain Chaos

They're only guidelines. Everything is going to kill you one way or another.

I had a great uncle who drank at least 2-4 pints every day on his way home from work until he retired and weekends were just another story. He started drinking in his late teens and lived till the ripe old age of 98 with all his metal faculties intact.

So he had a minimum of 22 pints a week for almost 80 years. There are people who have never had a pint in their lives that have had liver cancer and died in their 40s, things just happen. Genetics plays a major role in what will trigger certain elements in your body more os that others.

I'd tend to not drink from one end of the month to another and then drink a months guideline limit in 2 nights. Swings and roundabouts.

Jesus.

I know a chap, and I'm not exaggerating this one bit, who's in his early 50's and hasn't worked a day in 25 years. Yet he goes to the pub at opening each morning, drinks all day, comes home for his dinner at sixish and then goes back out until closing. He must get through 20 pints per day. He's been doing this every day for decades. Where he gets the money I haven't got one iota but he must be spending the guts of 700 pound per week. Unless he won big money at some point and nobody found out I don't know. His liver must be totally pickled.

Jesus.

GLaDOS wrote: »

Id be under most weeks myself, a sign that my social life isnt the best

I'ts worse when you're well above it and still have zero social life!

Winterlong

The trouble with these guidelines is that I dont think anyone takes them seriously. So what is the point in having them?

A couple of bottles of red wine and 2 home measures of whisky so far this week. It's Friday and am over the limit already! Which bottle of wine will I open tonight

Jesus.

Winterlong wrote: »

The trouble with these guidelines is that I dont think anyone takes them seriously. So what is the point in having them?

Indeed. The likes of Shane McGowan would consume a weekly amount literally before breakfast.

Burial.

Speedwell wrote: »

It makes it a bit difficult for someone like me, who is not much of a drinker, to be taken seriously when I point out to my husband that the amount he drinks might be exacerbating certain of his health problems. No, he doesn't have anything like a drinking problem, but the amount he drinks at a given time could be triggering a certain kind of migraine he is prone to, for example. I can cite official guidelines till I'm blue in the face only for him to respond, "Don't be having a go at me, I don't even have as much as most people", and he's right.

That certain kind of migraine is probably just the hangover and the only cure for that is more drink. Wahey!

Smondie

Can people not take responsibility and show some self control without the government having to try and babysit?


You shouldn't be allowed drink if you need a babysitter.

Smondie

Can people not take responsibility and show some self control without the government having to try and babysit?


You shouldn't be allowed drink if you need a babysitter.

intheclouds

People only take the guidelines seriously when they are sitting in a consultants office being told some bad news about their health and the discussion of how much the regularly consume comes up.

Speedwell

Burial. wrote: »

That certain kind of migraine is probably just the hangover and the only cure for that is more drink. Wahey!

Naah, he gets cluster migraines, whether he drinks or not. The attack lasts for a few days or more. But I notice it more frequently follows a night when he's had a few pints.

lawlolawl

Was reading an article today on the Guardian website about a study that said alcohol is the direct cause of seven different types of cancer, even at moderate levels of consumption.

I used to be a regular drinker until recently and it was definitely ****ing up my health. I feel much better overall since I quit.

Your Face

I might be drunk right now.
I dont know anymore.

looksee

Speedwell wrote: »

Naah, he gets cluster migraines, whether he drinks or not. The attack lasts for a few days or more. But I notice it more frequently follows a night when he's had a few pints.

I gave up red wine because I recognised that it triggered migraine headaches. Also chocolate. I am not a big drinker but I can drink most spirits in modest amounts, but one glass of wine - less than a glass in the case of red wine - will set it off. I have not eaten chocolate in years, nor have I had red wine - and very little white wine - and I have not had a migraine since I gave it up.

OldGoat

It'd take me about 6 weeks to get through 17 units. Can I sell off my excess units like carbon tax?

maudgonner

Jesus. wrote: »

Does anyone else think the new drinking guidelines sound a bit daft? It used to be 10.5 pints per week for blokes and now its down to 8.5.

Seven per week and not per night!!


(For women its even less)

Why are you drinking pints when you have an unlimited supply of wine?

Jesus.

lawlolawl wrote: »

I used to be a regular drinker until recently and it was definitely ****ing up my health. I feel much better overall since I quit.

When I gave it up for three months once (Doctor wanted me back for more tests) people kept saying to me "I bet you feel much better!". Maybe some folk do but I didn't feel one jot better. In fact I felt worse. It was the most boring time of my life.

I think some folk are just natural drinkers & others aren't. Some can live life fully without a drop and to others that'd be like a life sentence. Different strokes I guess.

hairyslug

It's like the "5 a day" except easier

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

I like guidelines. I like meeting them and exceeding them.

andekwarhola

They're just guidelines, not tablets from Mount Sinai.

I doubt that anybody that has a healthy diet and is physically active has much to worry about if they exceed it from time to time.

Ted111

The guidelines only really apply to hard booze like whiskey and tequila etc.

Not to Nutritious alcohol like red wine which is full of anti oxidants and fruit and then you have Guinness which is obviously good for you.

hatrickpatrick

It's a real shame that these guidelines have moved in such a daft implied-abstinence direction over the years. Where previously they could be taken seriously as health guidelines, now they read as just being part of the sustained "alcohol is literally worse than Hitler" propaganda campaign we've been subjected to by the media and health lobbies for the last number of years.

Ted111

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

It's a real shame that these guidelines have moved in such a daft implied-abstinence direction over the years. Where previously they could be taken seriously as health guidelines, now they read as just being part of the sustained "alcohol is literally worse than Hitler" propaganda campaign we've been subjected to by the media and health lobbies for the last number of years.

Hitler drank no units of alcohol a week.
And he tried to kill everyone.

What does that tell you....

Jesus.

Ted111 wrote: »

Hitler drank no units of alcohol a week.And he tried to kill everyone.What does that tell you....

Never trust anyone who doesn't drink

lawlolawl

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

It's a real shame that these guidelines have moved in such a daft implied-abstinence direction over the years. Where previously they could be taken seriously as health guidelines, now they read as just being part of the sustained "alcohol is literally worse than Hitler" propaganda campaign we've been subjected to by the media and health lobbies for the last number of years.

A report came out today saying that even moderate consumption of alcohol is directly linked to the development of 7 different types of cancers.

Cantona's Collars

lawlolawl wrote: »

A report came out today saying that even moderate consumption of alcohol is directly linked to the development of 7 different types of cancers.

Feck it.I was just about to crack open a beer,if it's going to kill me I'm throwing it in the bin.

In all honesty,I know people who never drank or smoked that died of cancer.Problem drinking is one thing but having pints at the weekend with friends is one of life's little pleasures.
For everything enjoyable in life there is always some 'concerned group' out there to counteract it.

Jesus.

lawlolawl wrote: »

A report came out today saying that even moderate consumption of alcohol is directly linked to the development of 7 different types of cancers.

A report will no doubt come out next year debunking it all. Remember all the years the poor souls spent splashing that spreadable shyte on their toast only to now be told butter was better all along?

If you listened to all those reports you couldn't go outside your front door. I call bullsh1t on most of them.

OldMrBrennan83

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hatrickpatrick

lawlolawl wrote: »

A report came out today saying that even moderate consumption of alcohol is directly linked to the development of 7 different types of cancers.

I'm counting down the days until oxygen is announced as a major carcinogenic.

This is kind of my point - health risk hysteria has reached a ridiculous stage at which it's impossible to take such reports seriously anymore. I mean, you only have to look at the millions of moderate drinkers who have never suffered from cancer of any kind to realise that such headlines are moronically sensationalist.

Jesus.

zerks wrote: »

For everything enjoyable in life there is always some 'concerned group' out there to counteract it.

I swear they hang around like praying Mantises just waiting for the next wee thing that could give some poor cu*t a bit of comfort, jerking off at the thought of coming up with something to tell them it'll kill them in an instant.

The food Fascists are one gang of them and there's many more.

lawlolawl

This thread is turning out to be bizarrely similar to the obesity thread......

lawlolawl

lawlolawl wrote: »

A report came out today saying that even moderate consumption of alcohol is directly linked to the development of 7 different types of cancers.

Yup..... and remember the studies last year that said burnt toast and bacon gave you cancer plus studies over the years claiming that just about everything gives you cancer.

FrStone

Speedwell wrote: »

It makes it a bit difficult for someone like me, who is not much of a drinker, to be taken seriously when I point out to my husband that the amount he drinks might be exacerbating certain of his health problems. No, he doesn't have anything like a drinking problem, but the amount he drinks at a given time could be triggering a certain kind of migraine he is prone to, for example. I can cite official guidelines till I'm blue in the face only for him to respond, "Don't be having a go at me, I don't even have as much as most people", and he's right.

Ara unless your a medical doctor leave him off...

Cantona's Collars

Deleted User wrote: »

Yup..... and remember the studies last year that said burnt toast and bacon gave you cancer plus studies over the years claiming that just about everything gives you cancer.

Being alive gives you cancer,never heard of dead people complaining of an illness.

I've had 2 nice bottles of Perlenbacher so that's me over the daily limit,off to become a pioneer now to try save my life.

prinzeugen

Speedwell wrote: »

It makes it a bit difficult for someone like me, who is not much of a drinker, to be taken seriously when I point out to my husband that the amount he drinks might be exacerbating certain of his health problems. No, he doesn't have anything like a drinking problem, but the amount he drinks at a given time could be triggering a certain kind of migraine he is prone to, for example. I can cite official guidelines till I'm blue in the face only for him to respond, "Don't be having a go at me, I don't even have as much as most people", and he's right.

His migraine might not be due to the drink.. Someone going at me about my drinking habits non stop would give me a migraine too!

Elliott S

Captain Chaos wrote: »

They're only guidelines. Everything is going to kill you one way or another.

I had a great uncle who drank at least 2-4 pints every day on his way home from work until he retired and weekends were just another story. He started drinking in his late teens and lived till the ripe old age of 98 with all his metal faculties intact.

So he had a minimum of 22 pints a week for almost 80 years. There are people who have never had a pint in their lives that have had liver cancer and died in their 40s, things just happen. Genetics plays a major role in what will trigger certain elements in your body more os that others

Aye, but whilst we all have anecdotes like that, there probably is a skewing towards heavy drinkers having more health problems than non-drinkers overall.

Read a Guardian article today about research that strongly links alcohol usage to seven types of cancers. And we're not talking a casual or weak link either:

The study, published in the scientific journal Addiction, concludes that there is more than simply a link or statistical association between alcohol and cancer that could be explained by something else. There is now enough credible evidence to say conclusively that drinking is a direct cause of the disease, according to Jennie Connor, of the preventive and social medicine department at Otago University in New Zealand.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/22/alcohol-direct-cause-seven-forms-of-cancer-study

I thought it was interesting anyway though I kind of know already that it will be dismissively brushed aside in this thread.

ceadaoin.

lawlolawl wrote: »

Was reading an article today on the Guardian website about a study that said alcohol is the direct cause of seven different types of cancer, even at moderate levels of consumption.

I used to be a regular drinker until recently and it was definitely ****ing up my health. I feel much better overall since I quit.

I saw that earlier, but wasnt this already known? I don't know why it's news all of a sudden. Probably means they want to increase the price of alcohol, in the interests of public health of course

Elliott S

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I saw that earlier, but wasnt this already known? I don't know why it's news all of a sudden. Probably means they want to increase the price of alcohol, in the interests of public health of course

I think this study shows that it causes a wider range of cancers than previously thought.