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Aldi kettle and toaster promo starting Thursday

  • 20-07-2016 9:53pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭


    I was thinking of buying the new promo starting tomorrow, ad was on rte 1 earlier kettle and toaster for €44.99. Just turned on Chanel 5 uk and it's on sale tomorrow for £29.99 . Talk about ripping off the Irish .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,766 ✭✭✭RossieMan


    About 36 euro, plus our extra cost around 39-40 euro.

    Hardly being ripped off?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭castle2012


    RossieMan wrote: »
    About 36 euro, plus our extra cost around 39-40 euro.

    Hardly being ripped off?

    Defo a rip off even if you factor in sterling, it's still a 10 er more expensive on one item


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,766 ✭✭✭RossieMan


    Where are you seeing a tenner? It's about 3 or 4 euro maximum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    RossieMan wrote: »
    Where are you seeing a tenner? It's about 3 or 4 euro maximum.

    I thought they meant ten percent, actually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,696 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    RossieMan wrote: »
    Where are you seeing a tenner? It's about 3 or 4 euro maximum.

    It's €8.09 more expensive.

    £29.99 x 123/120 / £.8327 = €36.92

    Still a fair bit more expensive considering the original price but that's to be expected as it happens with every product shipped to Ireland.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,407 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    RossieMan wrote: »
    About 36 euro, plus our extra cost around 39-40 euro.

    Hardly being ripped off?

    Do you not get it? If anybody charges even slightly less in the UK for the same item, WE'RE BEING RIPPED OOOOOOOFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!

    :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    endacl wrote: »
    Do you not get it? If anybody charges even slightly less in the UK for the same item, WE'RE BEING RIPPED OOOOOOOFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!

    :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

    Must be nice to not have to worry about money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭farmerjj


    Speedwell wrote: »
    Must be nice to not have to worry about money.

    ? This is rip off Ireland section, is,nt it all about money!!!!!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 982 ✭✭✭VincePP


    Does the OP understand that these promos and prices are decided months in advance?

    If you are that bothered, get on a ryanair flight to some UK ariport, pop into a taxi to the nearest aldi & buy your kettle and toaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,407 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Speedwell wrote: »
    Must be nice to not have to worry about money.
    Is it a compulsory toaster?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,766 ✭✭✭RossieMan


    It's not even a nice toaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    endacl wrote: »
    Is it a compulsory toaster?

    Hmm, I'm not sure what situations would require compulsory toast. "I'm sorry, sir, I have to give you the toast, otherwise I have to charge you the regular price for the breakfast plate." "Happy Mother's Day, Mom, we made breakfast in bed for you!" "If you don't eat your toast, you can't have any pudding. How can you have your pudding if you don't eat your toast?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,407 ✭✭✭✭endacl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    castle2012 wrote: »
    I was thinking of buying the new promo starting tomorrow, ad was on rte 1 earlier kettle and toaster for €44.99. Just turned on Chanel 5 uk and it's on sale tomorrow for £29.99 . Talk about ripping off the Irish .

    You're not obliged to buy it in Aldi.

    As the OP said, the deals are in place long before now so the rate would have gotten better. At the time, the sterling/euro rate would have been worse for Irish customers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭castle2012


    cant accept such a price difference, if it's the case put it at €39.99 , that still gives them a decent profit , it's certainly a rip off if it's 36 euro just over the border and 45 here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Agree 100percent
    Aldi is becoming a bit of a joke .Seems to think the thick Irish will buy in aldi at any price.Sure it aldi it has to be cheap!

    Well done to the op.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,407 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Agree 100percent

    Only 90% in the UK. :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    emmetkenny wrote: »
    It's €8.09 more expensive.

    £29.99 x 123/120 / £.8327 = €36.92

    Still a fair bit more expensive considering the original price but that's to be expected as it happens with every product shipped to Ireland.

    I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest Aldi didn't order and agree a price with the manufacturer or supplier in the last few days......when a Euro was trading at about 83 or 84p......

    ......I'd say that ordered and agreed the price at least 2 to 3 months ago for July delivery. For example on 1 June a Euro only got you 78p - add to that the extra cost of getting it here, and the VAT differential and it doesn't seem like that much of a rip off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,407 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Jawgap wrote: »
    I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest Aldi didn't order and agree a price with the manufacturer or supplier in the last few days......when a Euro was trading at about 83 or 84p......

    ......I'd say that ordered and agreed the price at least 2 to 3 months ago for July delivery. For example on 1 June a Euro only got you 78p - add to that the extra cost of getting it here, and the VAT differential and it doesn't seem like that much of a rip off.

    Stop talkin sense. You'll ruin the rant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,112 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    castle2012 wrote: »
    cant accept such a price difference, if it's the case put it at €39.99 , that still gives them a decent profit , it's certainly a rip off if it's 36 euro just over the border and 45 here

    Go on, go buy it "just over the border"











    There are no Aldis in Northern Ireland.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭castle2012


    Hopefully the media will start scrutinising these big company's for taken advantage, no wonder the living cost s are so high in this country when some multinationals see the Irish market as an opertunity to fleece customers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,407 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    castle2012 wrote: »
    Hopefully the media will start scrutinising these big company's for taken advantage, no wonder the living cost s are so high in this country when some multinationals see the Irish market as an opertunity to fleece customers

    Problem solved.

    http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/4219608/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CKitchen+and+laundry%7C14418476/c_2/3%7Ccat_19780844%7CToasters%7C14418671.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,112 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    castle2012 wrote: »
    Hopefully the media will start scrutinising these big company's for taken advantage, no wonder the living cost s are so high in this country when some multinationals see the Irish market as an opertunity to fleece customers

    Once someone puts any scrutiny on it at all, they see there isn't any advantage being taken. Even the pathetic media we have here wouldn't bother with that.

    Ireland has a higher cost base. We have higher VAT. And currency rate changes take weeks to months to work through supply chains. You don't seem to understand any of those, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,696 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Jawgap wrote: »
    I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest Aldi didn't order and agree a price with the manufacturer or supplier in the last few days......when a Euro was trading at about 83 or 84p......

    ......I'd say that ordered and agreed the price at least 2 to 3 months ago for July delivery. For example on 1 June a Euro only got you 78p - add to that the extra cost of getting it here, and the VAT differential and it doesn't seem like that much of a rip off.

    Yes I do realise that but I'm speaking from the consumer standpoint.

    On Thursday you can buy in Ireland assuming the exchange stays the same for approximately £37 or you can buy up North for £30.

    Lets assume Aldi buy the set for $20 on 1 April when €1 = $1. The cost to Aldi that day is €20 per set. Aldi now charge €45 in Ireland to make a profit and cover all costs associated.

    Now when Aldi go to pay the supplier for the set the exchange rate is €1 = $.75 the cost of each set is now costing Aldi €26.66. Aldi will cover this exchange rate loss and will not increase the selling price to the consumer as they would have set a selling price months in advance.

    Day to day exchange rates won't affect the final selling price to a company but it does affect the consumer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,407 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    emmetkenny wrote: »
    On Thursday you can buy in Ireland assuming the exchange stays the same for approximately £37 or you can buy up North for £30.

    Did you miss the 'there are no Aldi stores in Northern Ireland' bit?

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,696 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    endacl wrote: »
    Did you miss the 'there are no Aldi stores in Northern Ireland' bit?

    :D

    I didn't miss it. The same logic stands to every store eg Argos etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    emmetkenny wrote: »
    Yes I do realise that but I'm speaking from the consumer standpoint.

    On Thursday you can buy in Ireland assuming the exchange stays the same for approximately £37 or you can buy up North for £30.

    Lets assume Aldi buy the set for $20 on 1 April when €1 = $1. The cost to Aldi that day is €20 per set. Aldi now charge €45 in Ireland to make a profit and cover all costs associated.

    Now when Aldi go to pay the supplier for the set the exchange rate is €1 = $.75 the cost of each set is now costing Aldi €26.66. Aldi will cover this exchange rate loss and will not increase the selling price to the consumer as they would have set a selling price months in advance.

    Day to day exchange rates won't affect the final selling price to a company but it does affect the consumer.

    Seriously, you think aldi can spot price? When they have to order in advance, arrange delivery, update the EPOS software, arrange a print run on the weekly brochure (and distribute it) etc etc.

    And yes it does affect the consumer - sometimes to their detriment, sometimes to their benefit, but this to my mind is not a rip off. It's the frictional cost of doing business across two different jurisdictions with different currencies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,696 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Jawgap wrote: »
    Seriously, you think aldi can spot price? When they have to order in advance, arrange delivery, update the EPOS software, arrange a print run on the weekly brochure (and distribute it) etc etc.

    And yes it does affect the consumer - sometimes to their detriment, sometimes to their benefit, but this to my mind is not a rip off. It's the frictional cost of doing business across two different jurisdictions with different currencies.

    I'm not saying this is a rip off. I'm saying the price is higher here due to additional costs etc.

    I'm not saying Aldi are Spot Pricing I'm speaking in relation to the FX gians and losses that Aldi will make and absorb themselves between the price that was agreed with a supplier and when they pay that supplier. I'm not saying that they pass these onto the final consumer.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Also in the UK there is a different VAT rate for electronics from what I remember so dont forget to add that to your calcs and see how close the difference really is :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,696 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    jonnycivic wrote: »
    Also in the UK there is a different VAT rate for electronics from what I remember so dont forget to add that to your calcs and see how close the difference really is :)

    Vat rate in the UK is 20%. I already allowed for it above.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,969 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Different country, different currency, different economy, different cost of living, different (much bigger) market.

    Different prices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    So many people on here defending aldi?
    Nobody likes been taken for an idiot,let's try and make excuses for it and pretend it's not happening


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭castle2012


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    So many people on here defending aldi?
    Nobody likes been taken for an idiot,let's try and make excuses for it and pretend it's not happening

    Argreed and it's a rip off , it's sounds like some work in Aldi , they seem to know the ins and outs of how they work ,


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 982 ✭✭✭VincePP


    Funny - i didn't see these posters last year when sterling was almost €1.40 shouting about how cheap aldi was in comparison to their uk stores.

    But sure whiners rarely point out an advantage. They only ever search for negatives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,112 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    So many people on here defending aldi?
    Nobody likes been taken for an idiot,let's try and make excuses for it and pretend it's not happening

    Nobody is being taken for an idiot. A number of people who appear to have numeracy and literacy issues are having trouble understanding some basics, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,393 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    L1011 wrote: »
    Nobody is being taken for an idiot. A number of people who appear to have numeracy and literacy issues are having trouble understanding some basics, though.

    Spot on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Ok if it's more expensive to transport to the republic why is it not more expensive to transport to Northern Ireland?
    Same price there as uk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Ok if it's more expensive to transport to the republic why is it not more expensive to transport to Northern Ireland?
    Same price there as uk

    How do you know they're pulling in the same margin?

    I'd imagine it's equally expensive to get the goods into their store in Inverness, but they don't charge more there - likewise the stores closest to their huge logistics centre in Bolton don't sell it any cheaper.

    Despite what people may think, NI is a different jurisdiction.

    And it's only a 10% (at most differential) - of all the things people can complain about being ripped off on this about 12353rd in the list :rolleyes:

    if people think it's a rip-off, don't buy it - they'll be left with a load of unsold stock and they won't be as 'greedy' the next time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 982 ✭✭✭VincePP


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Ok if it's more expensive to transport to the republic why is it not more expensive to transport to Northern Ireland?
    Same price there as uk

    Feel free to travel to Northern Ireland, search for an Aldi and if you find one (you won't), buy your kettle and toaster.

    btw - I assume you work. Imagine if your employer told you today that due to currency fluctuation they are taking 15% off your salary as if they employed you in the UK, they'd be able to save 15%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭DavyD_83


    I'm way more baffled by existence of a "retro microwave" and the fact it looks like a pretty standard microwave.
    Ok, maybe a bigger handle than you'd normally get these days...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,112 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Ok if it's more expensive to transport to the republic why is it not more expensive to transport to Northern Ireland?
    Same price there as uk

    Its not the same price in NI as GB because there are no Aldi stores in NI - very possibly for the reason of higher costs

    Lidl NI is run from the Irish division for much the same reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Ok if it's more expensive to transport to the republic why is it not more expensive to transport to Northern Ireland?
    Same price there as uk
    It is often a lot more expensive to transport to NI than mainland UK. Many large retailers will charge the same in NI and simply take the loss, or increase prices overall to cover it. Some might figure the loss would be too much and not open in NI, they would not like badwill they might get from ignorant complainers who do not understand. The company I work for make machines for large multinationals and I remember them saying they make a loss or just break even on ones sold in NI. Aldi have no NI stores maybe they would have to increase the prices too much and figure they would lose overall.

    People hear take advantage of this type of thing in the form of parcelmotel & parcelwizard. Royal mail charge the same price to deliver to NI than to a building next door to where it was posted in mainland UK. Many couriers do not feel obligated to look "fair" and so do charge more accordingly.

    castle2012 wrote: »
    I was thinking of buying the new promo starting tomorrow, ad was on rte 1 earlier kettle and toaster for €44.99. Just turned on Chanel 5 uk and it's on sale tomorrow for £29.99.
    So are you still thinking of buying it? I presume you initially thought it was a good price relative to other retailers, including buying online or travelling to other countries. Aldi could well be making more profit selling it in the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭castle2012


    rubadub wrote: »
    It is often a lot more expensive to transport to NI than mainland UK. Many large retailers will charge the same in NI and simply take the loss, or increase prices overall to cover it. Some might figure the loss would be too much and not open in NI, they would not like badwill they might get from ignorant complainers who do not understand. The company I work for make machines for large multinationals and I remember them saying they make a loss or just break even on ones sold in NI. Aldi have no NI stores maybe they would have to increase the prices too much and figure they would lose overall.

    People hear take advantage of this type of thing in the form of parcelmotel & parcelwizard. Royal mail charge the same price to deliver to NI than to a building next door to where it was posted in mainland UK. Many couriers do not feel obligated to look "fair" and so do charge more accordingly.



    So are you still thinking of buying it? I presume you initially thought it was a good price relative to other retailers, including buying online or travelling to other countries. Aldi could well be making more profit selling it in the UK.

    Yep I did like it and was going to purchase it till I seen the uk price , it just put me off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭penelope2012


    Anyone know if there is any aldi with these left, I'm looking for the Cream Kettle to match the toaster I managed to get in one Aldi!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,112 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    3 years later? No chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭penelope2012


    L1011 wrote: »
    3 years later? No chance.

    Ha,
    I meant the ones from last week the RETRO ones


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