Planning Permission The crescent bin shed

matt-dublin

Hi folks,

Looks like this has reared its head again. I'm trying to find the objection letter I had previously.

matt-dublin

PP site notice attached

lalelli

is it a coincidence that planning permission is put up when people are on holidays??

LEIN

What's the background here?

matt-dublin

LEIN wrote: »

What's the background here?

Land behind the crescent previously owned by zapi and had planning refused for a load of apartments.

Land hat been sold to cairn and new planning up for a load of three story houses

LEIN

matt-dublin wrote: »

Land behind the crescent previously owned by zapi and had planning refused for a load of apartments.

Land hat been sold to cairn and new planning up for a load of three story houses

Thanks for that.

2011

matt-dublin wrote: »

I'm trying to find the objection letter I had previously.

Why are you objecting?

matt-dublin

2011 wrote: »

Why are you objecting?

Because they're going to build houses that require access through the existing estate that is over run by traffic and also will be significantly visually dominant over the existing houses and apartments.

Same as before

2011

matt-dublin wrote: »

Because they're going to build houses that require access through the existing estate that is over run by traffic

I can understand your objection on this point.

also will be significantly visually dominant over the existing houses and apartments.

Will it just be a case of making a large development even larger? More of the same?

matt-dublin

2011 wrote: »

I can understand your objection on this point.



Will it just be a case of making a large development even larger? More of the same?

Different styles and they will significantly overlook all the existing properties and block light to existing properties, the land is between10-15 feet higher than the existing development.

There's also not enough water and waste water supply as charlesland is over subscribed

2011

matt-dublin wrote: »

Different styles and they will significantly overlook all the existing properties and block light to existing properties, the land is between10-15 feet higher than the existing development.

There's also not enough water and waste water supply as charlesland is over subscribed

Fair enough, I see your point.
Thanks for explaining.

recedite

matt-dublin wrote: »

Because they're going to build houses that require access through the existing estate that is over run by traffic..

"Overrun with traffic" might be a bit of an exaggeration.
Anyway I see from the PP notice that 43 houses would have direct access from the Kilcoole Road, and only 7 accessed via Ch. Park. So 7 more houses is not very significant.
Presumably there would be no through road between the two access points, at least not initially anyway. But if there was, it would actually result in less traffic around the single Spine Road access point. More in Ch. Park though, as people in other parts of Charlesland would use it as a handy access point to the Killincarrig/Delgany areas.

lalelli

Anybody know until when one can object?

matt-dublin

Another two weeks I think

Annasopra

Is this the same site?

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/15621618_10154851803452351_474798493325527106_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=2d2ac8abbac082559c835b32c869f31f&oe=58F56099

Emma A

looks like they got planning..

http://www.cairnhomes.com/portfolio/2016/9/23/charlesland-greystones

loyatemu

Emma A wrote: »

looks like they got planning..

http://www.cairnhomes.com/portfolio/2016/9/23/charlesland-greystones

"the scheme will be accessed of the quaint Kilcoole Road (R761)"

quaint?

Emma A

nightmare right behind us in the last row it looks like... I didn't even see planning application

I had objected the last time :mad:

loyatemu

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Is this the same site?

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/15621618_10154851803452351_474798493325527106_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=2d2ac8abbac082559c835b32c869f31f&oe=58F56099

No that's the land between Charlesland and the R774 (where the metal barn stands actually it doesn't include the barn field, just the land to the west of there) - here's the planning application for 192 houses: http://www.eplanning.ie/WicklowCC/AppFileRefDetails/161412/0

Same developer though. I notice some of the houses will be accessed from the Go Gym roundabout but they're also proposing another entrance from the Kilcoole road (additional to the one that will be created for the development behind the Crescent). Seems a bad idea to add 2 more junctions on that short stretch of road, why wouldn't they have the whole estate accessible from the roundabout?

loyatemu

Emma A wrote: »

nightmare right behind us in the last row it looks like... I didn't even see planning application

I had objected the last time :mad:

there were loads of objections this time, I doubt one more would have made a difference. The land was zoned for housing so the planners would need a fairly strong reason to refuse it.