What am I ?

Tom44

Who knows who gives advice here ?

Whether they know what they are or what, or whether we know or innocent Joe public ( fools to get text advice)

So I'll be honest,
I'm an ex plumber, taxi driver now, work on trawlers (Spanish) off season in Kilkee, and part time lumberjack when necessary.
I'm knowledgeable and willing to share, but God knows what qualifications others have here ?

Tom

Wearb

Well I don't use my real name here. I only give a vague address. I don't state my qualifications. I give advice for free, but I am willing to be corrected on any bad advice I give.

I have already stated the safe guards in the other thread.

Not meaning to have a go, but a bit of privacy for the poster is in the nature of the forum.

Steve

Sorry, saw this on the front page of boards, it's Friday expect nonsense replies.

Me? nothing to do with plumbing but competent in electrical and mechanical engineering.. and glad to share.

Tom44

Wearb wrote: »

Well I don't use my real name here. I only give a vague address. I don't state my qualifications. I give advice for free, but I am willing to be corrected on any bad advice I give.

I have already stated the safe guards in the other thread.

Not meaning to have a go, but a bit of privacy for the poster is in the nature of the forum.

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But that's the problem, anybody can post, including myself, and people belive what we say. ��

Wearb

But it's not a problem, as I have explained.

Have you ever been on a restricted forum? Mostly stale.

Vive la difference.

Dtp1979

It's true anybody can post and give advise. But as wearb said, if you post incorrect or stupid advice then you'll soon be called on it

Steve

Tom44 wrote: »

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But that's the problem, anybody can post, including myself, and people belive what we say. ��

Yeah, that's the problem, people believe what they read on the internet..

Tom44

Wearb wrote: »

But it's not a problem, as I have explained.

Have you ever been on a restricted forum? Mostly stale.

Vive la difference.

Restrictive? No

Just no crack here anymore, plumbers love giving GOOD advice here + a bit of crac & debate, but sadly that end has droped off, not due to the few good guy's that are here long time.
For that I do thank you.

But the forum has lost a lot of entertaining characters that put a bit of spice into the answer's.

This is no way to be taken up wrong by the good regulars here, but you know what I mean.
What went wrong? ???????????

Tom.

Wearb

I suppose the really good guys eventually felt unappreciated Tom. They also became intolerant. While I would have slight misgivings, on the whole, they left of their own accord.
In some instances, higher technical expectations offended some that had worked effectively for years on a sort of rule of thumb and experience basis.

Tom44

I blame the EU

You can't call a BALL COCK a ball cock anymore or the joy of correctly inserting a male fitting into a female fitting anymore. :rolleyes:

Jeasus, even a banana is not a banana unless it's straight. :pac:

Sleeper12

A fella posted a photo of copper pipe with a green stain on it here in plumbing forum. He asked if plumber did a bad job. The guys shouting the loudest weren't plumbers saying what a terrible job & his whole heating would leak. A day or so later the poor guy posted his ceiling with a half dozen holes cut out so he could examine the pipes. The green comes from when soldering pipes together. It can be wiped off but most don't bother if it's not going to be visible. Anyway point is this poor chap caused damage to his own home on the advice of a few fools or trolls.
My advice to anyone looking for advice on plumbing, electrical, diy etc is look into posters profile. See what forums do they post in. You should be able to get great free advice. You may see disagreements among plumbers on something but it would be more technical detail. All our advice generally agrees with each other.

Coming from a pub back ground I see no real difference between this forums conversations and the ones I heard standing behind the bar be it the start of a shift or the end, and any advice should be treated in the same manor.

Now I'm not a plumber as I don't do toilets but i'v been a City and Guilds gas engineer(heating engineer) for 30 years and I use that knowledge to try to police the safety of the posts on here as well as I can as does Tony (DGOBS) who's own long experience as a service technician and knowledge of regs puts my own to shame.

As for those who uses advice from the internet without quantifying it's real value or sense, how can you prevent those with no common sense making a hames of it as they do things that make no sense

I learnt early on in my career that some people can do anything to try and prove common sense is a thing of fiction. I got called to investigate a large gas explosion which I found was caused by a person who ended up in the sitting room from the kitchen without having to use any doors, they honestly thought sellotape and Brillo pads were just the thing to stop a leak from a split gas pipe or the man who read about gas efficiency so he disconnected his pipe from the gas fire attached a hose and propped it up on bricks in the middle of the sitting room then lit it, he was found unconscious but toasty a few hours later. Sadly I have lots of story's like that to make me a card carrying believer in natural selection, let's not forget people are stillll...... Pouring petrol on BBQs even the gas ones.

It's unfortunate that the banter has died down but that's more I feel a reflection of those who don't get on with others or as mentioned by Wearb don't wish to be questioned on a point.

C'est la vie.

Calahonda52

FB, Twitter,Snapchat,Instagram (and the regular porn sites) have had its effect.

There is also the point that OPs are less inclined to do any research before logging on and posing the their question: prefaced with:
I have looked extensively here across all the forums here but can't find the right answer: What size is half inch copper pipe?

This then leads to the issue of how many time can you be bothered answering the same question that folk are just too damn lazy to go look has it been asked before.
Finally: its experience rather than qualifications that count here, imo, as its solving problems mostly rather than the math etc behind the tech so to speak.
And then of course you have this peach:

Originally Posted by Simon Peach
I want to buy some boards for work I'm doing at home. A friend recommended boards.ie. But I can't seem to find where to buy the boards.
Can someone redirect me please.
Regards
Simon
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=100320346#post100320346

RJF

Check out the wisdom of crowds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds

DGOBS

I do agree some characters have disappeared off here, I we all miss the colour they brought.
But on the other hand, I don't miss receiving 'reported threads' at 1 and 2am!! (and there was many)

Also, the forum tends to cool off in the summer (for obvious reasons)

But (even though the chap took a dislike to me) the likes of Scudo's humour is missed (by all)
As for qualifications, those who give bad advice don't last long by natural selection, and those of us who do (give good), well whatever our background we are all still learning.......
I think the people who got the hump and left had not the ability to look at themselves and chuckle sometimes at their own foolishness.........nobody's perfect.....
Others, well, moderation just didn't sit well with them, and it's not something we enjoy or get paid for, but someones gotta reign it in sometimes.

Tom44

DGOBS wrote: »

I do agree some characters have disappeared off here, I we all miss the colour they brought.
But on the other hand, I don't miss receiving 'reported threads' at 1 and 2am!! (and there was many)

Also, the forum tends to cool off in the summer (for obvious reasons)

But (even though the chap took a dislike to me) the likes of Scudo's humour is missed (by all)
As for qualifications, those who give bad advice don't last long by natural selection, and those of us who do (give good), well whatever our background we are all still learning.......
I think the people who got the hump and left had not the ability to look at themselves and chuckle sometimes at their own foolishness.........nobody's perfect.....
Others, well, moderation just didn't sit well with them, and it's not something we enjoy or get paid for, but someones gotta reign it in sometimes.

Ahh,
I recieved two pm's ( one quite long ) explaining a lot about past guys & scudo3
About The Great Debate, that was immediately deleated and reason's.
All hush hush and a banning matter I'm told.
No wonder I couldn't find it.
:pac:

Tom.

DGOBS

Well, that's slightly incorrect.....

1. No Hush hush - trolling was removed by another mod (and correctly so)
2. No one was banned, the man in question closed his account
3. There was no debate, there was just a rant of an opinion

I don't find this a useful or progressive thread, if it serves to dig up silly arguments from the past it will be closed.

Posters on this (or any other thread) who continually mod, troll or vent bile do receive warnings, infractions and sometimes short (leading to longer) bans. It's all in the forum charter.

Antiquity and general acceptance of an opinion is not assurance of it's truth (or validity).

PS. There was more than one 'great debate' over the years

DGOBS

DGOBS

@Tom, DGOBS Domestic Gas and Oil Boiler Services (used to be my company) so not so strange after all, but see why you'd think so.

Robbie.G

DGOBS wrote: »

@Tom, DGOBS Domestic Gas and Oil Boiler Services (used to be my company) so not so strange after all, but see why you'd think so.

No it just means he's very gobby ðŸ˜႒ðŸ˜႒

Tom44

Ouchh
Touchy forum, just been told to stick to the taxi.

Not my fault I have to diversify as we all have to eat & feed our family's
I'd sooner make €5 an hour than nothing
Trawlers 1K a week for 2 months often no sleep for 30 hours but worth it.
The rest is up & down, but not all of us live in D4

Sorry
Not out to rant on, but not everybody has seen the tiger come & go, saw Berty in a Merc once, that's how close I got to it.

We all have to eat, no matter how qualified we are.

Tom

Tom44

Tom44 wrote: »

Ouchh
Touchy forum, just been told to stick to the taxi.

Not my fault I have to diversify as we all have to eat & feed our family's
I'd sooner make €5 an hour than nothing
Trawlers 1K a week for 2 months often no sleep for 30 hours but worth it.
The rest is up & down, but not all of us live in D4

Sorry
Not out to rant on, but not everybody has seen the tiger come & go, saw Berty in a Merc once, that's how close I got to it.

We all have to eat, no matter how qualified we are.

Tom

Trawlers!!! 1K a week!!!! Sounds a bit fishy to me.

Tom44

Typical.

Tom44

Tom44 wrote: »

Typical.

WHAT AM I?

I'd say yer a bit Touchy there Tom;)

DGOBS

He's only codding you, can be very shellfish sometimes these guys.
Always a few squid in fishing..

Tom44

DGOBS wrote: »

He's only codding you, can be very shellfish sometimes these guys.
Always a few squid in fishing..

LOLed on that one . 👍