Charity Employees pay cap?

L.Jenkins

So a question for AH. Should the pay of Charity Employees be capped, while the accounts of said Charities come under intense scrutiny periodically or by surprise?

Ted111

I would say sit back and let nature take its course.

People have seen behind the veil now and donations will hopefully plumet. There simply won't money to fund these parasites anymore. They'll move on to some other scam.

Dravokivich

Nope. People should be paid according to what they think their worth or what someone is willing to pay them.

Minimum wage is set. No use going about putting stipulations on the jobs too.

Too much regulation. If you are willing to give over your money without getting anything in return, think long and hard about who you are giving it to and why.

Don't be surprised or upset someone is getting a payslip out of it. They gotta earn a wage too.

Lady is a tramp

I'd prefer to see more government involvement in charities, both as regards regulation, and also to finance the higher salaries (and ideally be involved in the recruitment process.) Legislation introduced that the government fund X proportion of salaries, and a minimum percentage of funds raised (if not all funds raised) must be proven to go straight to the cause involved.

That way they still get to attract the best people for the more important positions, but without taking away from the charity's credibility.

Of course, if this were to happen, they'd really need to tighten up what's defined as a "charity" and which ones the government should provide support to.

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Im done donating to charity.
I'll still donate to my local dog shelter but only because everyone there are volunteers and are have the animals in their care as the main priority.

The_Valeyard

why are the results hidden?

maudgonner

Dravokivich wrote: »

Nope. People should be paid according to what they think their worth or what someone is willing to pay them.

Minimum wage is set. No use going about putting stipulations on the jobs too.

Too much regulation. If you are willing to give over your money without getting anything in return, think long and hard about who you are giving it to and why.

Don't be surprised or upset someone is getting a payslip out of it. They gotta earn a wage too.

For that to work there would have to be transparency about what people are being paid, how charities are spending their money and how the boards who approve such salaries are being appointed.

That clearly hasn't happened, and is unlikely to happen in the immediate future, if ever.


To suggest that there is too much regulation in the charity sector industry is laughable. Reports today suggest that international corporations are using charity status to avoid tax. If true that crap needs to be stamped on hard by the Charity Regulator, once it has sufficient power.

Dravokivich

maudgonner wrote: »

For that to work there would have to be transparency about what people are being paid, how charities are spending their money and how the boards who approve such salaries are being appointed.

That clearly hasn't happened, and is unlikely to happen in the immediate future, if ever.


To suggest that there is too much regulation in the charity sector industry is laughable. Reports today suggest that international corporations are using charity status to avoid tax. If true that crap needs to be stamped on hard by the Charity Regulator, once it has sufficient power.

I was answering the question posed. Not whatever else you were leading towards. A person's time should not be valued based on who they work for.

L.Jenkins

The_Valeyard wrote: »

why are the results hidden?

I'll get someone to sort it.

maudgonner

Dravokivich wrote: »

I was answering the question posed. Not whatever else you were leading towards. A person's time should not be valued based on who they work for.

You said "If you are willing to give over your money without getting anything in return, think long and hard about who you are giving it to and why."

The fact is that most people were horrified to find out how their donations to organisations to Console and similar organisations were spent. They believed that they were giving their money to the people these charities claim to help, not to fund substantial salaries and perks.

Lack of transparency in how charities spend their money make it impossible to assess who you are giving your money to when you donate.

By your definition, you either give your money over and have no right to expect the charity to be held to account in the way they spend it, or you simply do not donate. I don't believe that's an acceptable or desirable way for charities to operate.

For what it's worth, I don't necessarily believe that overall salary caps are a good idea, but perhaps salaries of top executives should be limited in a similar way that they are meant to be in the public service.

As for 'too much regulation', right now it seems there is absolutely none, so a little bit of regulation would be no harm at all. A lot may just be what's needed to ensure people can have faith that it's worth supporting good causes and their money will get where it's intended to go.

Dravokivich

Again you are throwing more into my response than the question I answered. It was based entirely on salaries that one can gain in employment. It shouldn't matter who is doing the employing. Looking to stipulate salary levies or caps depending on the industry or company would be too much regulation.

maudgonner

Dravokivich wrote: »

Again you are throwing more into my response than the question I answered. It was based entirely on salaries that one can gain in employment. It shouldn't matter who is doing the employing. Looking to stipulate salary levies or caps depending on the industry or company would be too much regulation.

But salary caps already apply in the public sector. We've seen clearly in the last couple of weeks that the charity sector is increasingly being treated like an offshoot of the public sector.

So why would salary caps be inappropriate in the charity sector?