factory cow prices

mrbrendank

does anyone know of the latest prices from the factory's in Galway, i have a bad cow to get rid of, she is about 450kg,

Sam Kade

I got 3.80 but that's 2 months back.

mrbrendank

i never gone to the factory, and i have seen now 3.10 - 3.15 per kg, but surely she wont get 1395. 3.10x450

whelan2

mrbrendank wrote: »

i never gone to the factory, and i have seen now 3.10 - 3.15 per kg, but surely she wont get 1395. 3.10x450

No it's carcass weight not live weight. Is she dry?

mrbrendank

whelan2 wrote: »

No it's carcass weight not live weight. Is she dry?

ya she is dry

Sam Kade

450x 0.5 = 225 kg carcass weight

whelan2

mrbrendank wrote: »

ya she is dry

long and what breed?

Timmaay

mrbrendank wrote: »

does anyone know of the latest prices from the factory's in Galway, i have a bad cow to get rid of, she is about 450kg,

How bad of a cow? If she's badly lame then be careful in case they condemn her etc, and you'll get nothing for her! 450kg sounds very light, is she small or is she very thin? Cull cow prices are not great at all at the minute, and that light you could be talking about 1e/kg live weight (very rough guess)

mrbrendank

whelan2 wrote: »

long and what breed?

she aborted this years calf about Feb, never came bulling again she's HEX, and she's the biggest pain in the arse

mrbrendank

Timmaay wrote: »

How bad of a cow? If she's badly lame then be careful in case they condemn her etc, and you'll get nothing for her! 450kg sounds very light, is she small or is she very thin? Cull cow prices are not great at all at the minute, and that light you could be talking about 1e/kg live weight (very rough guess)

she is just a bad cow in general, not lame, just small and narrow, has a cut on her side, which anything i put on she licks off and refuses to let heal, aborted her calf and hasnt come bulling again

Dozer1

Are you Quality Assured? Alot of factories around here won't take her unless you are. that or you need a friendly agent

sonnybill

mrbrendank wrote: »

she is just a bad cow in general, not lame, just small and narrow, has a cut on her side, which anything i put on she licks off and refuses to let heal, aborted her calf and hasnt come bulling again

What kinda fat cover?! Be careful they try to ride you if she very light on cover like E2.00 per kg for 225kg carcase ... Boner cow they'd call her

djmc

How do lads finish cull cows is it just on grass alone or is feeding ration or nuts necessary.

welton john

go away to the mart with her , whatever she'll make you wont see the colour of it in factory

Bass Reeves

mrbrendank wrote: »

she aborted this years calf about Feb, never came bulling again she's HEX, and she's the biggest pain in the arse

mrbrendank wrote: »

she is just a bad cow in general, not lame, just small and narrow, has a cut on her side, which anything i put on she licks off and refuses to let heal, aborted her calf and hasnt come bulling again

I cannot understand why you did not cull her early in the year. In general suckler cows that have not got a calf should be culled. You would have been keeping here for 12 months and have no return. By the sound of her she is an old cow 10+ years. As well if after having no calf under her for 5 months she still is not starting to flesh it is unlikely she will ever flesh up.

If you take her to the factory there is a 50% chance she will be condemned. Take here to the mart and what you get you get. There are lads that specialise in those sort of cattle.

mrbrendank

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I cannot understand why you did not cull her early in the year. In general suckler cows that have not got a calf should be culled. You would have been keeping here for 12 months and have no return. By the sound of her she is an old cow 10+ years. As well if after having no calf under her for 5 months she still is not starting to flesh it is unlikely she will ever flesh up.

If you take her to the factory there is a 50% chance she will be condemned. Take here to the mart and what you get you get. There are lads that specialise in those sort of cattle.

I know what you mean, i didnt sell her earlier because she was in bad condition, i was trying to put some weight on her, she is only 4yrs.

Bass Reeves

mrbrendank wrote: »

I know what you mean, i didnt sell her earlier because she was in bad condition, i was trying to put some weight on her, she is only 4yrs.

A young cow like that should flesh easy. The cut on her side did a vet treat it. If not I have tried him. At this stage however I would take her to the mart, a lad that specialise's in culls will gamble on a young cow like that.

mrbrendank

Bass Reeves wrote: »

A young cow like that should flesh easy. The cut on her side did a vet treat it. If not I have tried him. At this stage however I would take her to the mart, a lad that specialise's in culls will gamble on a young cow like that.

the vets advised alu spray, which she just liked off, i then applied tar which she licked off. the only way this will heal is if i put a cone on her head.

i will being her to the mart on tuesday and see, i will report back

whelan2

mrbrendank wrote: »

the vets advised alu spray, which she just liked off, i then applied tar which she licked off. the only way this will heal is if i put a cone on her head.

i will being her to the mart on tuesday and see, i will report back

sudocreme?

Bass Reeves

whelan2 wrote: »

sudocreme?

Ya great stuff when dehorning calves or even older cattle to keep fly's away

mrbrendank

whelan2 wrote: »

sudocreme?

i will try that in the morning, thanks

djmc

Any tips on finishing dairy cull cows for factory

simx

djmc wrote: »

Any tips on finishing dairy cull cows for factory

Buy ones with good size, but dry if possible or with very little milk so to dry off fast, try have done for May/June to get best price, try have her above 270kg dead, below this would be cut 10-15c, and below 250 is another cut generally, I think below 230kg is classed as canner cow price so try not buy small cows, don't worry too much about age, a young cow might put on condition quicker but often had 6/7 year old cows thrive as well as them, winter finishing them is a lot of the time a waste of time imo

djmc

Thanks for your input so not much point buying at the end of year around November and keep away from jerseys crosses.
Any point feeding meal into them or is it a waste of money if they have enough grass.
I'm after giving up dairying so looking to keep things simple.

simx

djmc wrote: »

Thanks for your input so not much point buying at the end of year around November and keep away from jerseys crosses.
Any point feeding meal into them or is it a waste of money if they have enough grass.
I'm after giving up dairying so looking to keep things simple.

You'll have a long store to keep till the spring and cows eat a good bit of silage, you'd get them in February/ March/April for a bit more, taking in silage and other costs it could work out the same, feed meal towards year end if reckon be done off grass before housing, grass quality won't be great then either, wouldn't avoid jerseys like the plague have bought jex cows and throve and left money but were black types and had some look of cows that had potential I wouldn't touch a red/browny one though, prob with most jex is they're small and won't be major weights, mastitis is a big put off and a lot of milking men offload cows full of mastitis or have busting bags etc. some can be serious messes to fix, if have a bit of mastitis I shove a tube up and watch there grazing and look ok

cute geoge

The big problem in buying cull cows is that the majority will be incalf..You would be as well to scan cows and feed incalf cows seperately ,also end up with cases of milk fever in cows calving is a big problem.
It is impossable to get any value buying big frame cows as the boys around the ring will take turns scalding you also ,might be a better idea to buy cows private and be told problem with cow

mrbrendank

well i ended up bringing her to the mart and got 680 for her, so i am happy with that. thanks for all your advice

Bass Reeves

What weight was she.

mrbrendank

Bass Reeves wrote: »

What weight was she.

420

orm0nd

mrbrendank wrote: »

420

your'e lucky you didn't send her to the factory ... good call!

KatyMac

I had a similar cow this this. Took her to the mart once she was over the calving. She weighed 455kg and I got €755 for her. No point in waiting with something like this.

sonnybill

mrbrendank wrote: »

well i ended up bringing her to the mart and got 680 for her, so i am happy with that. thanks for all your advice

Mine was pro lapsing so mart wasn't an option

I got E645 .. After deductions.
O= 2= 262.5kg cold e2.50 a kg not great as Killed 6 weeks ago this Friday and was quoted 3.00 for O's on previous day

kerry cow

Hi lads
Has a fr cow at mart yesterday .weight 540 kg sold for 560 .she was thrown up after because of some blood discharge which has been going on a month but I did not announce as it's a cull cow sale . Was faced with going to factory today.
I thought 540kg by 40%kill out = 220kg dw @ €2/kg = 440 euro . So the buyer offered me €400 . It would be a half day out with fuel .and had one skipped in the bin before .
I don't know much about killing cattle so on the spot yesterday I came up with the above figures .
What would ye have done

whelan2

kerry cow wrote: »

Hi lads
Has a fr cow at mart yesterday .weight 540 kg sold for 560 .she was thrown up after because of some blood discharge which has been going on a month but I did not announce as it's a cull cow sale . Was faced with going to factory today.
I thought 540kg by 40%kill out = 220kg dw @ €2/kg = 440 euro . So the buyer offered me €400 . It would be a half day out with fuel .and had one skipped in the bin before .
I don't know much about killing cattle so on the spot yesterday I came up with the above figures .
What would ye have done

sent 2 screws to the factory last week, 210kg @1.90/kg=399.59 and 238kg @2/kg=476 euro

orm0nd

whelan2 wrote: »

sent 2 screws to the factory last week, 210kg @1.90/kg=399.59 and 238kg @2/kg=476 euro

have 3 here that havent 2 good legs between the 6 of them. milking oad but will moving them shortly , if I get your prices I'll be happy

blue5000

It's a tough call, cull cows need time, I think you dairy lads are throwing away money selling a cow for €400 when she could make €1000 in 5 or 6 months. Then again she could die in the meantime too. Is grass really that tight?

whelan2

blue5000 wrote: »

It's a tough call, cull cows need time, I think you dairy lads are throwing away money selling a cow for €400 when she could make €1000 in 5 or 6 months. Then again she could die in the meantime too. Is grass really that tight?

The 2 I sent one had really bad feet and the other had a swelling behind from were she was ai'ed a few months ago, cut my losses and paid for kids school bus tickets

orm0nd

blue5000 wrote:

It's a tough call, cull cows need time, I think you dairy lads are throwing away money selling a cow for €400 when she could make €1000 in 5 or 6 months. Then again she could die in the meantime too. Is grass really that tight?

No good throwing good money after bad. Cows gone on the feet use too much energy just being mobile, if it was spring time it might be a different story but facing into housing no

We usually finish all cows here but you got to know when to hold and know when to fold.

simx

kerry cow wrote: »

Hi lads
Has a fr cow at mart yesterday .weight 540 kg sold for 560 .she was thrown up after because of some blood discharge which has been going on a month but I did not announce as it's a cull cow sale . Was faced with going to factory today.
I thought 540kg by 40%kill out = 220kg dw @ €2/kg = 440 euro . So the buyer offered me €400 . It would be a half day out with fuel .and had one skipped in the bin before .
I don't know much about killing cattle so on the spot yesterday I came up with the above figures .
What would ye have done

why didnt you annouce it? a cull cow sale doesnt mean you dont have to annouce if theres something abnormally wrong with them, if shes lame its probably obvious, if theres a chance shes incalf she should be sold no guarentee, plenty will have mastitis i know, some wont be obvious from sight some will be swollen and some busting etc. thats a given with culls though, otherwise they should be sold as healthy animals, reasons i see for lads selling them are, lameness, mastitis, high scc, not incalf, too late incalf, age, seen a cow sold as seen in mart one day and id say she wasnt going to live for a week after, bad form imo selling an animal that you knowingly is going to die i think, he got no bid and i think she died shortly after anyways