Newstalk - The Sunday Show Thread

PeterTheNinth

Can find a thread for this so I'll start one. Think it was included in the previous Megathread.

PeterTheNinth

I just cant continue to listen to Fergus Finlay pontificating to us about how things are so badly organised in other charities, and that people should look up the accounts of a particular charity before donating.

Finlay gets an absolute fortune from Barnardos, well over 100K a year. And THIS is the reason I will never throw anything in to the buckets of their volunteers, even though Barnardos DO publish their accounts. And I'm sure I'm not alone. Why will nobody in Newstalk put this to him?

And Barnardos are not alone in paying their CEO a fortune by the way.

PeterTheNinth

lol... He must have been watching this thread.

Harry Angstrom

Finlay doesn't know what the correct level of salary should be....... but sure €100k is grand to be going on with :rolleyes:

PeterTheNinth

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Finlay doesn't know what the correct level of salary should be....... but sure €100k is grand to be going on with :rolleyes:

I remember Joe Duffy came up with something similar Harry, when it was put to him. It not even an attempted justification, it's the sort of mealy mouthed nonsense that they would all be giving out about if a politician said it.

What they should say to Finlay is "Well if you dont know what the proper level should be, let's start you on 50K a year, and see how you get on with that".

Harry Angstrom

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

I just cant continue to listen to Fergus Finlay pontificating to us about how things are so badly organised in other charities, and that people should look up the accounts of a particular charity before donating.

Finlay gets an absolute fortune from Barnardos, well over 100K a year. And THIS is the reason I will never throw anything in to the buckets of their volunteers, even though Barnardos DO publish their accounts. And I'm sure I'm not alone. Why will nobody in Newstalk put this to him?

And Barnardos are not alone in paying their CEO a fortune by the way.

What annoys me is that the CEO's of charities are put up on a pedestal in this country - almost as if they're doing some kind of selfless altruistic act by heading up these charities in the first place. It never seems to be mentioned in the media that they're all paid a fcuking fortune.

reason vs religion

I think there's definitely a compelling argument for paying charity CEOs a salary comparable with what they would get in the private sector - otherwise charities would only be able to recruit mediocre managers, which likely results in a differential between their potential and actual revenue that greatly exceeds the difference in salary. But my problem with the concept in Ireland (and the UK to an extent) versus America is that the particular CEOs of Irish charities wouldn't be able to command that money in the private sector here!! They don't have industry experience, they don't have expensive MBA's, they don't have Wall Street constantly offering them positions... In reality, the CEO and senior managers have usually been long term employees and have not experienced much competition along the way. Irish public and charitable organisations pay like they're in the private sector and recruit like they're heavily bound by trade union rules (which they often are).

PeterTheNinth

reason vs religion wrote: »

I think there's definitely a compelling argument for paying charity CEOs a salary comparable with what they would get in the private sector -

I'm not saying that they should not be paid appropriately, and I agree that you absolutely do need competent people, but the amounts that are being paid to run small charities is obscene. And I'm sick of listening to people like Finlay making the rest of us feel guilty about their funding being down, when at the heart of it he is still taking >100K from their diminshed funding.

CEOs of charities like to portray themselves as kind hearted and altruistic when speaking on radio or appealing for public funds, but then look to private industry when justifying their enormous wages. They cant have it both ways.

PeterTheNinth

Mick Clifford on to murder the english language again.

Noooooostalk indeed.

PeterTheNinth

Just because the shinners have links in the middle east, they expect all middle eastern news stories to be the head of the news.

omerin

This show has been in decline for a number of years, with not many alternatives, but as bad as it is today fm is far worse. Bring back emmon

PeterTheNinth

I have to say, I spat out my morning coffee when I heard Sarah Carey lecturing us all on ethics in business. She has some neck.

Interesting that the discussion of how Bernie Sanders looked like "the Grinch" as Hilary was making her speech included no reference to the fact that Hilary and the DNC shafted Sanders and that maybe he would be well within his rights to feel a bit miffed. Can you imagine what Newstalk would be saying if the Republicans had shown similar bias towards Donald Trump?

xper

Sarah Carey is just awful as a current affairs presenter. It's all just shallow, whiny whataboutery fliting from one topic to another. The level of insight is something I'd expect in a Dundrum Town Centre coffee shop chat. I've switched off.

Zeek12

Anyone know if Shane Coleman will return to this show?
It's gone seriously downhill in the last few months. Most of the stand-ins have been woeful!

Harry Angstrom

Zeek12 wrote: »

Anyone know if Shane Coleman will return to this show?
It's gone seriously downhill in the last few months. Most of the stand-ins have been woeful!

I wouldn't think so. He's starting Newstalk Breakfast on Monday week.

PeterTheNinth

Zeek12 wrote: »

Anyone know if Shane Coleman will return to this show? It's gone seriously downhill in the last few months. Most of the stand-ins have been woeful!

That new guy keeps interrupting everybody. Shocking.

PeterTheNinth

I have to say this is infuriating. Nobody prepared to call the pious Shinner on the absolute hypocrisy of their position on NAMA, now that it has become clear that they were coaching witnesses in the Northern investigation. Nobody prepared to challenge Mary Lou MacDonald at all.

Dukes is there to defend himself and his NAMA pals, and he cant attack the Shinner because she will just immediately say that "This is a politically motivated attack from Fine Gael". Healy not prepared to ask the hard questions either, most probably because his populist opinions on everything are in line with Sinn Fein policy.

PeterTheNinth

Oh god, the one program that was okay, and now we have smart ar$e Jonathan Healy with his own sarcastic spin on everything. Is it too late to phone Shane Coleman and ask him to come back in.

boggerman1

Haven't much time for terry prone but she is slapping down healy everytime he opens his mouth.amateur hour,but it seems newstalk is gone that way.

PeterTheNinth

boggerman1 wrote: »

Haven't much time for terry prone but she is slapping down healy everytime he opens his mouth.amateur hour,but it seems newstalk is gone that way.

He made the mistake of referring to the (female) ambassador as "he" and it was like he'd gone in to her house on Christmas day and p1ssed on her tree.

Zeek12

I rarely listen to this anymore, since Coleman left.
Shame really - it used to be a really enjoyable show. The stand ins during the summer were all terrible. Healy's over aggressive approach is not much better.

On the plus side....a great music choice by John Fardy today!

PeterTheNinth

Healy just cant help himself. We get all his own opinions on Donald Trump before he gives us the news stories. He is the worst person for this job. Shane Coleman was just perfect for it.