Tyson never turned over his hooks

Under_Graduate

Never that I saw at least.

He always threw them with the palm facing his body, not the ground.
Less powerful, but less likely to result in injury.

Well, I've done my right hand so many damn times turning the hook over, that I'm going to adopt a similar tact.

Anyone else find this??

FTA69

You don't need to turn over hooks to get power in them if you're throwing them from long range.

walshb

Many fighters throw hooks with palm facing their body. It's probably more natural and safe, but not the way most would advise.

boxer.fan

I've always found this interesting. Almost all instructors teach the hook with the palm facing down, although most boxers I know like to turn the palm towards the body.

walshb

boxer.fan wrote: »

I've always found this interesting. Almost all instructors teach the hook with the palm facing down, although most boxers I know like to turn the palm towards the body.

Both are correct and legal, but yes, most advise the palm facing down.

Under_Graduate

walshb wrote: »

Both are correct and legal, but yes, most advise the palm facing down.

I was once with a coach who wouldn't hold pads for me unless I had the palm facing the ground.

It's more powerful for sure, but I've had it with injuries to my hands.

Sparring since, palm facing body, absolutely zero problems.
This is what it is from here on out for me.

Anyways, the point was I guess, if it was good enough to Tyson, it's good enough for me.

Frank Bullitt

Palm down runs the risk of wrist injury I find. With the palm facing me, I get more snap and blunt force into my hooks. Also matches up well to the side of the head that you are aiming for, along with the body.

An old Thai boxing coach said there was no good or bad way to do it (palm down or facing) and people have their preferences.

I personally find the palm facing me more natural, comfortable and accurate.

Frank Bullitt

As an alternative question, I always wondered if anybody in here did boxing themselves.

Hands up lads (no pun intended) who takes part in the sweet science. I got back into it in January after a long lay off, and I am so glad that I am back at it. Have sparred a few pros since, and I can tell you its terrifying.

Under_Graduate

Gintonious wrote: »

As an alternative question, I always wondered if anybody in here did boxing themselves.

Hands up lads (no pun intended) who takes part in the sweet science. I got back into it in January after a long lay off, and I am so glad that I am back at it. Have sparred a few pros since, and I can tell you its terrifying.

Are you based in Dublin?

I was hoping to get some sparring in with some pros in the near future.
Would love to know a gym that has decent pros around Dublin?

Frank Bullitt

Under_Graduate wrote: »

Are you based in Dublin?

I was hoping to get some sparring in with some pros in the near future.
Would love to know a gym that has decent pros around Dublin?

Im actually in Vancouver now, there seems to be more pros out there, but the amateur scene isn't as big as it is in Ireland.

As for Dublin, I think Docklands boxing has one or two pros their now.

FTA69

Gintonious wrote: »

As an alternative question, I always wondered if anybody in here did boxing themselves.

Hands up lads (no pun intended) who takes part in the sweet science. I got back into it in January after a long lay off, and I am so glad that I am back at it. Have sparred a few pros since, and I can tell you its terrifying.

Did intervarsity amateurs and also had two unlicensed fights here, it's massive scene in London. Have sparred a few pros myself and it's an interesting experience to say the least.

Currently have bad tendinitis in my shoulder, boxer's knuckle and a slipped disk in my back so probably only have one or two fights left in me I'd say.

Frank Bullitt

FTA69 wrote: »

Did intervarsity amateurs and also had two unlicensed fights here, it's massive scene in London. Have sparred a few pros myself and it's an interesting experience to say the least.

Currently have bad tendinitis in my shoulder, boxer's knuckle and a slipped disk in my back so probably only have one or two fights left in me I'd say.

I wouldn't be far off that either, its a great sport but you really put yourself through the wars.

FTA69

Gintonious wrote: »

I wouldn't be far off that either, its a great sport but you really put yourself through the wars.

What woes have you had? I think the damage to my knuckle is the one that's going to be with me the longest to be honest. She's a fighter too and is currently flying it and pushing me to get back into it but while I can manage a couple of light sessions a week I just know that putting myself through daily intense training for a fight will burn me out in a month or set the disk off again. I'm only 28 like and I feel battered.

Under_Graduate

If the knuckle is bothering you, I recommend you buy a whole supply of sports tape and gauze from the chemist, and look at this tutorial...

I've boxed with a broken knuckle, but the wrap was so good, I got away with it.

Under_Graduate

You're only 28 and have just "one or two fights left in you"!!??

28 years old my man.

20 ****ing 8.

lol

WTF??
*bewildered face*

Frank Bullitt

FTA69 wrote: »

What woes have you had? I think the damage to my knuckle is the one that's going to be with me the longest to be honest. She's a fighter too and is currently flying it and pushing me to get back into it but while I can manage a couple of light sessions a week I just know that putting myself through daily intense training for a fight will burn me out in a month or set the disk off again. I'm only 28 like and I feel battered.

Same deal with the knuckle, my neck can take a bit of a hammering and my lower back has an issue that was around prior to boxing, boxing just highlights it more.

If you feel you can then i would get back into it, it takes a lot of dedication though I will admit, 6am roadwork is worse for me than sparring.

Frank Bullitt

Under_Graduate wrote: »

If the knuckle is bothering you, I recommend you buy a whole supply of sports tape and gauze from the chemist, and look at this tutorial...

I've boxed with a broken knuckle, but the wrap was so good, I got away with it.

Thats a lot of supplies for wrapping, especially if you aren't a pro.

There are also these ones, which look interesting to me. http://radiuswraps.com

You're only 28 and have just "one or two fights left in you"!!??

28 years old my man.

20 ****ing 8.

lol

WTF??
*bewildered face*

To each their own man, not everyone can just get back at it at a moments hesitation. While I love boxing and the training, the headaches I get after sparring are horrific, same with the inevitable injuries you will get despite how you wrap your hands. Your health is your wealth.

FTA69

Gintonious wrote: »

Thats a lot of supplies for wrapping, especially if you aren't a pro.

There are also these ones, which look interesting to me. http://radiuswraps.com



To each their own man, not everyone can just get back at it at a moments hesitation. While I love boxing and the training, the headaches I get after sparring are horrific, same with the inevitable injuries you will get despite how you wrap your hands. Your health is your wealth.

Honestly don't mind your man, he's a spoofer on wind up mission.

Frank Bullitt

FTA69 wrote: »

Honestly don't mind your man, he's a spoofer on wind up mission.

Ah, one of them internet warriors.

Under_Graduate

Here's his fight against Larry Holms.

Watch the finishing sequence.
All hooks.
Goes to the body a little at the end to bring his guard down, but hooks to the head that finished that bout.

All with the palm facing his body.

His technique is picture perfect; I guess that shows, that, with the addition of muscle power, there is devastating power in that style of hook.

Crazy how he beat Holms to the jab, one of the greatest "jabbers", of all time.

walshb

Under_Graduate wrote: »

Here's his fight against Larry Holms.

Watch the finishing sequence.
All hooks.
Goes to the body a little at the end to bring his guard down, but hooks to the head that finished that bout.

All with the palm facing his body.

His technique is picture perfect; I guess that shows, that, with the addition of muscle power, there is devastating power in that style of hook.

Crazy how he beat Holms to the jab, one of the greatest "jabbers", of all time.

Tyson had excellent timing and range and ring skills, hence why he could jab and box with the bigger men, and of course, take then out as well. Tyson at peak was an excellent ring technician. Very good boxer, and very difficult to outbox.

No version of Holmes beats a peak Tyson. He just doesn't have the chin to withstand Tyson's assaults, nor the power to deter him, and if he thinks he can outbox him he likely finds out that he is in for a torrid time. Most of it spent fending off Tyson, and defending as opposed to attacking. Tyson is just a bad style for Larry.