Fleetwood Mac

PTH2009

Saw them live last year and amazed how good they were and what great songs they have. Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham are legends

As there all seniors and getting on in years now I can't see them performing much longer. Will they bring out a new album ?? (Last new album was released In 2003).

A new album and then a last world tour, greatest hits box set/DVD etc

Olishi4

I don't know if they should release another album. Their last one was alright, a few good songs.

Obviously Rumours is a fantastic album and would never be topped. I also love Tusk. I heard it got some bad reviews when it was released originally. The arrangement of the album is a bit mad but some really good stuff on there.

When I was about 16, I bought their greatest hits and the local CD shop didn't always have much stock. It was Golden Discs. So I started getting into Fleetwood mac and I would just buy anything by them that they had in the shop. One day I ended up buying a Peter Green's Fleetwood mac album not knowing anything about the history of the band and thinking it would be typical Stevie/Lindsay sound. Went home and started listening to it thinking wtf is this? I was thinking I spent my 15 pound babysitting money on this so I'm definitely listening to it. A couple of songs in and I was thinking, this is amazing!

My favourite is "Oh well" and "The Green Manalishi"

Also at first I thought Stevie was the man and Lindsay was the woman.

Lately I've found a song that I hadn't previously heard called "Prove your love". Christine mac Vie is singing it and it was just before Stevie and Lindsay joined, I think. I think Chistine Mac Vie can be quite underrated.

PTH2009

I didint knw there was a male singner in the band and thought Stevie sounds a bit like a dude lol.

There an amazing band, lindsey is one of the all time greats

i was so annoyed last year at the gig when a lot people decided to have a little chat when Stevie and Lindsey done there acoustic set. 'Never going back again' is my favourite song by them although i enjoyed it, it would of been better if the crowd shut up :mad::mad::mad:

tigerboon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz_tAMgs7Js

You don't need a new album when you can listen to this over and over. There's also a very good Buckingham Nicks version of Rhiannon somewhere on youtube

PTH2009

http://variety.com/2018/music/news/fleetwood-mac-to-tour-with-neil-finn-mike-campbell-as-lindsey-buckinghams-replacements-1202748185/#article-comments

Lindsey Buckingham has left the band

Not sure id go and see them without him, some classic songs will not sound the same

bnt

He didn't jump, he was pushed, and he's been replaced by two people: Mike Campbell (Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers) and Neil Finn (Crowded House).

Not that there's a chance I'll get to see them live - the ticket prices will be eye-watering even for nosebleed seats.

smacl

Olishi4 wrote: »

My favourite is "Oh well" and "The Green Manalishi"

The Peter Green era might almost have been a different band, saw him about 20 years ago in Whelans and he was fantastic. Albatross has to be one of my all time favourite numbers. Love some of the later stuff too, but very different.

sbsquarepants

For me Buckingham and Nicks pretty much embody Fleetwood Mac - I could live without any or all of the others, but not without them.

blastman

sbsquarepants wrote: »

For me Buckingham and Nicks pretty much embody Fleetwood Mac - I could live without any or all of the others, but not without them.

Ironic as they are neither Fleetwood nor Mac....

lee_baby_simms

sbsquarepants wrote: »

For me Buckingham and Nicks pretty much embody Fleetwood Mac - I could live without any or all of the others, but not without them.

Exactly. This is a total dealbreaker. Buckingham is the best thing about them live. He can still play and sing great...big love, never going back again etc.

As much I love Stevie Nicks, her voice is fairly shot.

sbsquarepants

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

As much I love Stevie Nicks, her voice is fairly shot.

You're right it isn't great these days unfortunately - but in her prime it was nothing short of amazing.

PTH2009

So will Neil Finn sing the Buckingham songs (Big Love, Never going back again) or will Mike Campbell

It will be interesting to see how this tour goes

sbsquarepants

blastman wrote: »

Ironic as they are neither Fleetwood nor Mac....

True, but lets be honest - they could replace Mick Fleetwood with Mick McCarthy and it wouldn't make much difference:D

Sugarlumps

PTH2009 wrote: »

So will Neil Finn sing the Buckingham songs (Big Love, Never going back again) or will Mike Campbell

It will be interesting to see how this tour goes

Don't recall Campbell ever doing backing vocal for Petty, so no.

NIMAN

Never seen FM live, never got round to it.

But if Neil Finn is there now, I won't ever be buying a ticket. Couldn't stand Crowded House.

peejay1986

They've done plenty of gigs without Buckingham and usually the replacements will do some singers, but Stevie takes over a lot of Lindsey's parts.

Absolutely gutted by this. I simply love FM and finally got to see them live a few years ago, minus Christine McVie. It was far and away the best gig I've ever been to and the best live band I've seen. Was a shame that Christine wasn't there as we didn't get to see any of her songs.

I was unable to go a couple of years later when she rejoined and now it seems I missed my last chance to see the 'full' lineup.

I don't know if I'd go to see them without Lindsey. It just wouldn't be the same. One of, if not the, highlight of the gig I seen was Big Love.

Declan A Walsh

No-one here seems to know music from the early Fleetwood Mac in the '60s, when it was a British blues-based band led largely by blues guitarist and singer Peter Green. Peter Green was the original founder of Fleetwood Mac and named it after two mates from John Mayal's Bluesbreakers - Mick Fleetwood and John McVie. He wanted them to be in his band. Ironically, initially John McVie did not join so the first bass player was Bob Brunning, who kept the post until John was ready to join!

Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac was then joined by fellow guitarist/singers Jeremy Spencer and Danny Kirwan. During that era, they had their first hits such as Oh Well and the instrumental Albatross. Keyboardist Christine Perfect, who was in another blues outfit called Chicken Shack, joined Fleetwood Mac towards the end of the Peter Green era. She married John McVie and became Christine McVie.

During the first-half of the '70s, there were a few lineup changes with the departure of its founder Peter Green, Jeremy Spencer and Danny Kirwan. A key addition to the band was American Bob Welch who steered the Fleetwood Mac music in the direction of that American AOR sound that it would become associated with under Buckingham and Nicks.

So, Mick Fleetwood is the only member who was there from the start, while both he and John McVie are the only members that have been on all their recorded material.

smacl

Declan A Walsh wrote: »

No-one here seems to know music from the early Fleetwood Mac in the '60s, when it was a British blues-based band led largely by blues guitarist and singer Peter Green.

Cough... And on that subject, and excuse for a favourite track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8scHKFwr0og

Larbre34

Declan A Walsh wrote: »

No-one here seems to know music from the early Fleetwood Mac in the '60s, when it was a British blues-based band led largely by blues guitarist and singer Peter Green. Peter Green was the original founder of Fleetwood Mac and named it after two mates from John Mayal's Bluesbreakers - Mick Fleetwood and John McVie. He wanted them to be in his band. Ironically, initially John McVie did not join so the first bass player was Bob Brunning, who kept the post until John was ready to join!

Don't we? Well I'll be a son of a Green Manalishi! Oh well.....

IMO, Man of the World is FMs best song of any era.

Larbre34

NIMAN wrote: »

Never seen FM live, never got round to it.

But if Neil Finn is there now, I won't ever be buying a ticket. Couldn't stand Crowded House.

S'grand. You wont hear any Crowded House.

Finn is a great writer though, you should ignore some of hackneyed tracks and check out some of the albums

PTH2009

Finn actually sounds like Buckingham from what I've heard but he's not going to do full justice to some of his songs 'NGBA' 'Big love' etc. It might sound good on the night but it's Tesco value vs branded

NIMAN

Larbre34 wrote: »

S'grand. You wont hear any Crowded House.

Finn is a great writer though, you should ignore some of hackneyed tracks and check out some of the albums

I think maybe band should just hang up the instruments when members leave, I hate this bringing in ringers to fill out spots.

Maybe this isn't as bad as Queen touring again. Or INXS.

rednik

Band announcement on CBS in the States in the morning.

sbsquarepants

NIMAN wrote: »

Maybe this isn't as bad as Queen touring again. Or INXS.

I can't for the life of me understand why anybody would pay money to see "Queen" with Adam Lambert. Might as well save a few quid and go see a pub tribute act.

rednik

US tour dates announced running from October up to May next year.

trashcan

NIMAN wrote: »

Never seen FM live, never got round to it.

But if Neil Finn is there now, I won't ever be buying a ticket. Couldn't stand Crowded House.

Funny that, I'd be the exact opposite. Neil Finn is a legend and is far too good for Fleetwood Mac. What on earth is he thinking ?

retro:electro

It won’t be the same without Lindsey! Saw them at the 3arena two years ago and he was out of this world amazing. He might come back yet. Christine also left before and came back. I love Stevie but don’t think I’d like to see them again without Lindsey.

Arghus

Yeah, forget it without Lindsey Buckingham.

The Princess Bride

Lindsey and Stevie both left before and they toured without them, and yeah as much as I adore Christine McVie, the concert was lacking.

Then I saw them a few times without Christine and as brilliant as it was, I missed her.

So the absolute musical highlight of my life, was seeing the 5 of them on stage in 2015.

I don't think I'd go see them again without Lindsey.
I can't see the point.
And to replace him with 2 well known guitarists makes no sense.
Enough said.

SeantheMan

Seen them back in 2009. Great gig.
Was amazing watching him play Big Love live

Has to be one of the greatest solo guitar songs ever. Playing both the bass and rythm on the same guitar, amazing.

I can remember my dad raging at the time though as I think there was 1 big song they didn't play, coulda been "You make loving fun".
He was pretty disappointed.

cnocbui

NIMAN wrote: »

I think maybe band should just hang up the instruments when members leave, I hate this bringing in ringers to fill out spots.

Maybe this isn't as bad as Queen touring again. Or INXS.

Seemed to work OK for New Order and ACDC

Billgirlylegs

cnocbui wrote: »

Seemed to work OK for New Order and ACDC

New Order?
Similarities with Joy Division were coincidental
Spooky - Regret is playing on the radio now as I write

Surely AC DC and The Rolling Stones?

PTH2009

first performances with Finn and Campbell. Both do great jobs. Stevie messes up a bit on the chain. Still not the same without Lindsey Buckingham

Rosser

As much as I love Neil Finn....without Lindsey I just couldn’t be bothered. I lay this at Nicks door, always has to be on her terms and Mick is just a money grabbing hack who needs the touring money.

PTH2009

It's going to be interesting to see what the new setlist will be ???

Will Finn do some of the Lindsey stuff ?? Never going back again/Big Love etc

The Princess Bride

I found that hard to listen to, just a totally different sound.
Had to switch it off straight away.

PTH2009

The Princess Bride wrote: »

I found that hard to listen to, just a totally different sound.
Had to switch it off straight away.

They will still get 1/2 nights in the 3arena here No matter how well they sound ??

Euro promoters will still give out big bucks to get them to play

The Princess Bride

^^^I know.

I've seen them lots of times, not so sure I'd go to see this lineup.
Best remember them as they were.

AndrewJRenko

PTH2009 wrote: »

first performances with Finn and Campbell. Both do great jobs. Stevie messes up a bit on the chain. Still not the same without Lindsey Buckingham

Was it just me, or did both Christine and Stevie take a while to settle in to their vocals - both started out a bit ropey.


How on earth does Mick Fleetwood manage to do a full night's show on drums, and fairly energetic drums at 70+? It's not exactly as if he was one of those 'body as a temple' guys. Fair play.

PTH2009

US tour dates 2018/19 (quite a big tour considering there age)

Oct. 3 -- Tulsa, OK @ BOK Center
Oct. 6 -- Chicago, IL @ United Center
Oct. 10 -- Louisville, KY @ KFC Yum! Center (on sale May 11)
Oct. 12 -- Lincoln, NE @ Pinnacle Bank Arena
Oct. 14 -- Des Moines, IA @ Wells Fargo Arena
Oct. 16 -- Indianapolis, IN @ Bankers Life Fieldhouse
Oct. 18 -- Kansas City, MO @ Sprint Center
Oct. 20 -- St. Louis, MO @ Scottrade Center
Oct. 22 -- St. Paul, MN @ Xcel Energy Center
Oct. 26 -- Cleveland, OH @ Quicken Loans Arena
Oct. 28 -- Milwaukee, WI @ Wisconsin Entertainment and Sports Center
Oct. 30 -- Detroit, MI @ Little Caesars Arena
Nov. 1 -- Pittsburgh, PA @ PPG Paints Arena
Nov. 3 -- Ottawa, ON @ Canadian Tire Centre
Nov. 5 -- Toronto, ON @ Air Canada Centre
Nov. 7 -- Columbus, OH @ Nationwide Arena
Nov. 10 -- Edmonton, AB @ Rogers Place
Nov. 12 -- Calgary, AB @ Scotiabank Saddledome
Nov. 14 -- Vancouver, BC @ Rogers Arena
Nov. 17 -- Tacoma, WA @ Tacoma Dome
Nov. 19 -- Portland, OR @ Moda Center
Nov. 21 -- San Jose, CA @ SAP Center at San Jose
Nov. 23 -- Sacramento, CA @ Golden 1 Center
Nov. 25 -- Oakland, CA @ Oracle Arena
Nov. 28 -- Phoenix, AZ @ Talking Stick Resort Arena
Nov. 30 -- Las Vegas, NV @ T-Mobile Arena
Dec. 3 -- Denver, CO @Pepsi Center
Dec. 6 -- Fresno, CA @ Save Mart Center
Dec. 8 -- San Diego, CA @ Viejas Arena
Dec. 11 -- Inglewood, CA @ The Forum
Dec. 13 -- Inglewood, CA @ The Forum

2019
Feb. 5 -- Houston, TX @ Toyota Center
Feb. 7 -- Dallas, TX @ American Airlines Center
Feb. 9 -- Austin, TX @ Frank Erwin Center
Feb. 13 -- Birmingham, AL @ Legacy Arena at the BJCC
Feb. 16 -- New Orleans, LA @ Smoothie King Center
Feb. 18 -- Tampa, FL @ Amalie Arena
Feb. 20 -- Ft. Lauderdale, FL @ BB&T Cente
Feb. 22 -- Columbia, SC @ Colonial Life Arena
Feb. 24 -- Charlotte, NC @ Spectrum Center
Feb. 27 -- Nashville, TN @ Bridgestone Arena
March 3 -- Atlanta, GA @ Philips Arena
March 5 -- Washington, DC @ Capital One Arena
March 9 -- Atlantic City, NJ @ Boardwalk Hall
March 11 -- New York, NY @ Madison Square Garden (on sale May 5)
March 13 -- Newark, NJ @ Prudential Center (on sale May 5)
March 15 -- Hartford, CT @ XL Center
March 20 -- Albany, NY @ Times Union Center
March 24 -- Baltimore, MD @ Royal Farms Arena
March 26 -- Buffalo, NY @ KeyBank Center
March 31 -- Boston, MA @ TD Garden
Apr. 5 -- Philadelphia, PA @ Wells Fargo Center

Neil Finn is playing here with his son Liam on the 16th Jan 2019 in the Olympia as part of a short UK tour with a few Euro shows . I imagine the Fleetwood mac Euro dates might follow in summer or Autumn 2019

smacl

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

How on earth does Mick Fleetwood manage to do a full night's show on drums, and fairly energetic drums at 70+? It's not exactly as if he was one of those 'body as a temple' guys. Fair play.

Maybe he just has some great unwind music. This old favourite always works for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVwZqoyLsw4

Lorelli!

smacl wrote: »

Maybe he just has some great unwind music. This old favourite always works for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVwZqoyLsw4

He is a really good drummer. Apparently Peter Green named the band that because he loved the sound of John Mc Vie's base in combination with Mick's drumming and funnily enough they are the only two band members who stuck with the band throughout everything.

Also I read somewhere that Mick was seen as the kind of Father of the band, someone they looked up too and "Oh Daddy" written by Christine Mc Vie was supposed to be about Mick

Rosser

I wonder is Lindsey gone forever or might he rejoin in Summer 2019 when he said he was available from anyway. A year ago Nicks said she'd never record a new Mac album and now she's back dictating the tour dates - she's a complete pain in the hole!

The Princess Bride

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

How on earth does Mick Fleetwood manage to do a full night's show on drums, and fairly energetic drums at 70+? It's not exactly as if he was one of those 'body as a temple' guys. Fair play.

My first time ever seeing Mick perform Tusk live, is one of the musical highlights of my life.
Breathtaking.
I went home and had it on repeat in the car for weeks to come.

Random question- I wonder whether he has any hearing loss like Phil Collins?

PTH2009

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/fleetwood-mac/2018/bok-center-tulsa-ok-1be905bc.html

Very nice setlist actually for a first night of and new tour

smacl

PTH2009 wrote: »

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/fleetwood-mac/2018/bok-center-tulsa-ok-1be905bc.html

Very nice setlist actually for a first night of and new tour

Very nice indeed. Now if they just added Tusk on there somewhere...