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The word "Invite"

  • 05-07-2016 7:56pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1


    I was looking at a letter a friend passed to me regarding the Labour. It says that he has been "invited" to attend a meeting. And that he has been allocated a personal person for helping him find work...it says then he is "invited" to an individual meeting to meet this person.

    I just said lots of people get them and he should just go, But as I am interested in Law I am curious about the use of the word invite in this sense. What else is interesting is it states that failure to comply may result in loss of payment.

    So it would seem this is a voluntary option? given the fact the word invite is used twice, but I am concerned and confused in regard to how the letter is wrote and the "threat of loss of money" seems like some form of fear tactic to get compliance.

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,622 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Barzee wrote: »
    I was looking at a letter a friend passed to me regarding the Labour.

    I haven't heard anyone referring to it as the 'labour' in years. If you're talking about Jobseeker's Benefit or Allowance, your 'friend' would do well to co-operate with them because you're only entitled to the money if you are out of work, available for work and genuinely seeking work. That means that if they present you with options to prove that you are genuinely seeking work (which could including attending an interview) you'd do well to go along with what they are proposing.

    It's 'voluntary' only in the sense that they cannot compel you to attend because you wouldn't be breaking any law in not showing up but not fulfilling the appointment could be taken as a sign that your friend is not genuinely seeking work and they could stop his allowance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    Barzee wrote: »
    I was looking at a letter a friend passed to me regarding the Labour. It says that he has been "invited" to attend a meeting. And that he has been allocated a personal person for helping him find work...it says then he is "invited" to an individual meeting to meet this person.

    I just said lots of people get them and he should just go, But as I am interested in Law I am curious about the use of the word invite in this sense. What else is interesting is it states that failure to comply may result in loss of payment.

    So it would seem this is a voluntary option? given the fact the word invite is used twice, but I am concerned and confused in regard to how the letter is wrote and the "threat of loss of money" seems like some form of fear tactic to get compliance.

    Thanks

    Of course it is voluntary as only certain bodies AGS the Courts etc have the power to compel attendance. But watch what happens when he does not turn up as a review of the claim will follow, which could result in loss of income.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭livedadream


    Barzee wrote: »
    I was looking at a letter a friend passed to me regarding the Labour. It says that he has been "invited" to attend a meeting. And that he has been allocated a personal person for helping him find work...it says then he is "invited" to an individual meeting to meet this person.

    So it would seem this is a voluntary option? given the fact the word invite is used twice, but I am concerned and confused in regard to how the letter is wrote and the "threat of loss of money" seems like some form of fear tactic to get compliance.

    Thanks

    of course it is voluntary.

    He is ''invited'' by Turas Nua to attend because he has free will, the same free will that lets him decide if he will abide by the agreement he signed with the social welfare.

    The advise at the end of the letter is just that, we wish to advise you that failure to attend or engage may result in the loss of benefits or penalties.

    it is voluntary to attend but there are consequences for not attending or engaging because he signed a contract with DSP..


    in simple terms:

    DSPL: we give you money sign here, i agree too: attend to sign on, i will actively look for work, i will engage with any supports you consider necessary, i will not abuse staff etc etc.

    if your friend doesnt hold up his end of the bargain, neither will the DSP and the money can get stopped.

    its contact law, he signed and agreed to a contact, he needs to uphold it.

    simples.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    In reality there's probably nothing sinister or legal behind the use of the word "invite". You'll probably find someone had written the form letter saying "Turn up at 10am to meet Mr Mac". Then someone else said "you can't send it out like that, it sounds rude, try and make it more customer servicey sounding".

    As pointed out already, your friend won't go to jail for not making the meeting, but his benefits could be stopped.


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