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Opting out and separate engineer

  • 02-07-2016 7:00pm
    #1
    3ryan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 ✭


    Hi. I am due to start house building in a few weeks down the country. MY architect and builder want me to opt out when we submit the commencement notice. THey both say it is an awful lot of paperwork for nothing and will delay my build. They say that 9 out of 10 houses opt out where I live and I checked the commencement notices on the BCMS and it is true. IS it worth having? I have no intention of selling and as a compromise I am thinking about hiring a separate engineer to do site visits but I have to look into this. ANy thoughts


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  • #2
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,451 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Maybe have a read of this...

    http://www.environ.ie/en/Legislation/DevelopmentandHousing/BuildingStandards/FileDownLoad,42563,en.pdf


  • #3
    3ryan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 ✭3ryan


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Maybe have a read of this...

    http://www.environ.ie/en/Legislation/DevelopmentandHousing/BuildingStandards/FileDownLoad,42563,en.pdf

    Thanks- I read the above. From a practical PoV does the opting in delay the build. It's not even the cost as there is not much of a difference in the price I pay with or without the certification.


  • #4
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,451 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    3ryan wrote: »
    From a practical PoV does the opting in delay the build.

    There is no reason it should delay the build.


  • #5
    Calahonda52
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,888 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    3ryan wrote: »
    Hi. I am due to start house building in a few weeks down the country. MY architect and builder want me to opt out when we submit the commencement notice. THey both say it is an awful lot of paperwork for nothing and will delay my build. They say that 9 out of 10 houses opt out where I live and I checked the commencement notices on the BCMS and it is true. IS it worth having? I have no intention of selling and as a compromise I am thinking about hiring a separate engineer to do site visits but I have to look into this. ANy thoughts

    Make you wonder who is in whose pocket and how arms length will any supervision be....

    They are trying to browbeat u here and the notion of you hiring a separate engineer for site visits makes me worry even more.

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • #6
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    3ryan wrote: »
    Hi. I am due to start house building in a few weeks down the country. MY architect and builder want me to opt out when we submit the commencement notice. THey both say it is an awful lot of paperwork for nothing and will delay my build. They say that 9 out of 10 houses opt out where I live and I checked the commencement notices on the BCMS and it is true. IS it worth having? I have no intention of selling and as a compromise I am thinking about hiring a separate engineer to do site visits but I have to look into this. ANy thoughts

    have you had a quote for 'opt in' versus 'opt out'?

    that would focus your mind pretty quickly.

    and from my experience, ALL one off clients are opting out ....

    as an aside... did you hire the architect independently of the builder?


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  • #7
    3ryan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 ✭3ryan


    Thanks everyone. Yes I did hire the builder independently to the architect and I also got recommendations/done my homework etc. I looked through the BCMS site for the commencement notices and note most ppl are opting out.


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