British Passport

siobhan08

With this Brexit nobody really knows what gunna happen so was thinking about looking into gets a British passport as that would cover me if I was ever to moved back to England for work as we don't know if the Irish/British relationship will be able to stay the same now that they have left the EU

I think I should be eligible but not too sure.
My father was born Co.Armagh in 1943 but holds an Irish passport as do I
Would I be able obtain British passport and have duel citizenship based on this? As this would cover all bases Covered in the Eu on my Irish passport and Britain on a potential British passport

awec

siobhan08 wrote: »

With this Brexit nobody really knows what gunna happen so was thinking about looking into gets a British passport as that would cover me if I was ever to moved back to England for work as we don't know if the Irish/British relationship will be able to stay the same now that they have left the EU

I think I should be eligible but not too sure.
My father was born Co.Armagh in 1943 but holds an Irish passport as do I
Would I be able obtain British passport and have duel citizenship based on this? As this would cover all bases Covered in the Eu on my Irish passport and Britain on a potential British passport

Your dad is a British citizen (unless he ever formally renounced it) so you would be eligible too by descent.

I think.

irish_goat

Irish have always had a special allowance granted to them in Britain (same as Commonwealth citizens). Given the large number living over there I can't imagine that will change.

siobhan08

awec wrote: »

Your dad is a British citizen (unless he ever formally renounced it) so you would be eligible too.

I think.

yeah thats what I thought he would still be classed as a british citizen by birth. As far as him formally renouncing it I don't think that has ever happened. Him having an Irish passport. I thought that a might have caused an issue.

irish_goat

siobhan08 wrote: »

yeah thats what I thought he would still be classed as a british citizen by birth. As far as him formally renouncing it I don't think that has ever happened. Him having an Irish passport. I thought that a might have caused an issue.

The British Passport Office have no way of knowing what other passports your dad or yourself hold. They don't care either, it's perfectly fine to have 2 (or more) passports if you're entitled to them.

siobhan08

irish_goat wrote: »

Irish have always had a special allowance granted to them in Britain (same as Commonwealth citizens). Given the large number living over there I can't imagine that will change.

I thought Aussies, Canadian etc still needed visas to work in the UK?

I know the Irish have always had special status and is probably unlikely to change now but at lease if I had a british one I would be covered if something did. Let's face nobody knows what the hell is gunna happen now

awec

siobhan08 wrote: »

yeah thats what I thought he would still be classed as a british citizen by birth. As far as him formally renouncing it I don't think that has ever happened. Him having an Irish passport. I thought that a might have caused an issue.

You can have dual citizenship for UK and Ireland no problem. Having an Irish passport wouldn't affect his citizenship.

siobhan08

awec wrote: »

You can have dual citizenship for UK and Ireland no problem. Having an Irish passport wouldn't affect his citizenship.

Ok so unless he went to the British Government and renounced his citizenship he is still a British citizen? To the best of my knowledge he's never held a British Passport

awec

siobhan08 wrote: »

Ok so unless he went to the British Government and renounced his citizenship he is still a British citizen? To the best of my knowledge he's never held a British Passport

I think he would have become a British Citizen at birth. He probably doesn't identify as one but he probably technical is one.

Again though, I'm not an expert. Phoning the British embassy or something might be your best bet.

coylemj

siobhan08 wrote: »

My father was born Co.Armagh in 1943 but holds an Irish passport as do I
Would I be able obtain British passport and have duel citizenship based on this?

When and where were you born and where was your father living at the time? There was a significant change applicable to people born on or after Jan 1st 1983.

siobhan08

coylemj wrote: »

When and where were you born and where was your father living at the time? There was a significant change applicable to people born on or after Jan 1st 1983.

I was born in Dublin in 1990 and he was living in the south

coylemj

siobhan08 wrote: »

I was born in Dublin in 1990 and he was living in the south

Your father is a UK citizen as of right because he was born there. You might be entitled to UK citizenship 'by descent', the official website doesn't give a clear cut answer....

Check if you're a British citizen.

Mrs OBumble

siobhan08 wrote: »

I thought Aussies, Canadian etc still needed visas to work in the UK?

Correct.

There is no special status for Commonwealth citizens.

siobhan08

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Correct.

There is no special status for Commonwealth citizens.

so just the irish have that special status
I hope that doesnt change now with them leaving the EU but getting a british passport if I'm eligible for one is my back up plan to that

munchkin_utd

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Correct.

There is no special status for Commonwealth citizens.

theres a good number of them have a british passport through their parents though, and you'd even seem them working in pubs on continent (but not for long maybe!)

That brings up another thing that the UK wont get free movement for their citizens or a trade agreement if they dont allow free movement of EU citizens to the UK (where free movement means automatic entitlement to work).
Switzerland is trying to unwind that part of their agreement with the EU after a referendum there, and last I heard it wasnt really making an progress (at all at all)
http://www.nzz.ch/international/brexit/stimmen-aus-der-sonntagspresse-schweizer-raetselraten-nach-dem-brexit-ld.91736

so essentially, the only reason to have a UK passport might be to work there, but that is likely not to change that EU citizens can work there once all agreements are made

siobhan08

munchkin_utd wrote: »

so essentially, the only reason to have a UK passport might be to work there, but that is likely not to change that EU citizens can work there once all agreements are made

yeah in what i have studied at college the UK may be a likely option for employment for me so by having both British and Irish passport I would be covered to work in Europe and in the UK no matter what relationship the EU and UK will now have

Mrs OBumble

munchkin_utd wrote: »

theres a good number of them have a british passport through their parents though, and you'd even seem them working in pubs on continent (but not for long maybe!)

Some do, and some of us have Irish passports, too. But many don't.

Re working in pubs in the continent and in the UK - typically that's people on Working Holiday Visas. The UK has a large programme for this, other countries also have schemes. Typically you can only stay for fixed time (eg a year), and have to start before a certain age (eg 30).

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Sorry to bump old thread but does anyone know can a British passport by descent be passed down more than one generation, i.e: if an Irish person born before 1949 applies for a British passport today - can their child get a passport by descent, and then their child get a passport by descent, etc?

Fred Swanson

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