how long does it take to get vitamin D deficiency in Ireland?

armabelle

Hi there

we moved to Ireland in January and it rains an awful lot here. How long does it usually take to get vitamin D deficient? We already feel symptoms in our family.

thanks!

Timberrrrrrrr

armabelle wrote: »

Hi there

we moved to Ireland in January and it rains an awful lot here. How long does it usually take to get vitamin D deficient? We already feel symptoms in our family.

thanks!

Lived here for 33 years, never had it.

hardCopy

You should only need a few minutes a couple of times a week to synthesize Vitamin D. If you feel this can't be met just take a supplement.

You should really see your GP if you're suffering symptoms.

Deagol

armabelle wrote: »

Hi there

we moved to Ireland in January and it rains an awful lot here. How long does it usually take to get vitamin D deficient? We already feel symptoms in our family.

thanks!

One of the very probable reasons 'white' humans are 'white' is that we needed to make as much as possible of the weaker sunlight in the northern climes of the world to synthesize vitamin D via sunlight reaction.

In the 10's of thousands of years since we've survived just fine without vitamin D supplements, so unless you are 'non-caucausian' you should be just fine.

You and your families mass hypochondria on the other hand would be a source of concern if I was you :P

Zillah

Deagol wrote: »

In the 10's of thousands of years since we've survived just fine without vitamin D supplements, so unless you are 'non-caucausian' you should be just fine.

Well, we probably wear more clothes and spend a hell of a lot more time indoors than we did during the past. Our hunter-gatherer forbears - as the name implies - spent all day every day rambling around outside. If we get even a tenth the sun exposure on a typical day I'd be surprised.


I am curious to hear what symptoms OP's family are 'feeling'. Do you have the sensation of your bones not absorbing enough calcium?

The question is phrased rather oddly, as though a deficiency is inevitable...

Dymo

You can buy Vitamin D supplements in most pharmacys, I find the boots ownband ones very good.

fits

Its government recommendation to supplement from September to may each year in Finland and I expect a lot of people in Ireland are deficient. An easy way to get some in your diet I by using supermilk instead of regular.

Irish_rat

armabelle wrote: »

Hi there

we moved to Ireland in January and it rains an awful lot here. How long does it usually take to get vitamin D deficient? We already feel symptoms in our family.

thanks!

There is sunlight for 17 hours of the day surely you can get some vitamin D from that. I think you just don't like the Irish weather

deadlybuzzman

I'm as white as any non albino, I spend an average of 1 hour per day in sunlight and I'm vit D deficient when I don't supplement. That's my doctor telling me so after a blood test but only after I requested the test.
Him like a few others on here thought it silly. It's not, I'd suspect most people that don't work outside are deficient.

anothernight

deadlybuzzman wrote: »

I'm as white as any non albino, I spend an average of 1 hour per day in sunlight and I'm vit D deficient when I don't supplement. That's my doctor telling me so after a blood test but only after I requested the test.
Him like a few others on here thought it silly. It's not, I'd suspect most people that don't work outside are deficient.

Yeah, it doesn't seem to get much attention but vitamin D deficiency is quite widespread in Ireland.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/one-in-eight-irish-people-have-vitamin-d-deficiency-study-1.2545659

https://www.fsai.ie/faq/vitamin_d.html

armabelle

Zillah wrote: »

Well, we probably wear more clothes and spend a hell of a lot more time indoors than we did during the past. Our hunter-gatherer forbears - as the name implies - spent all day every day rambling around outside. If we get even a tenth the sun exposure on a typical day I'd be surprised.


I am curious to hear what symptoms OP's family are 'feeling'. Do you have the sensation of your bones not absorbing enough calcium?

The question is phrased rather oddly, as though a deficiency is inevitable...

yes, surely it is just a matter of time for everyone?

armabelle

Irish_rat wrote: »

There is sunlight for 17 hours of the day surely you can get some vitamin D from that. I think you just don't like the Irish weather

I do but not enough and now have symptoms

RobAMerc

I was diagnosed last year and my wife this year. We both are born and reared here.

I think the Irish weather has a lot to do with our poor health, both mental and physical.

Dtp1979

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eBtV_1UsEUw&itct=CBoQpDAYASITCNzn3cDOwc0CFU5-HAoddMIGYTIGcmVsbWZ1SIrK2cPM9dOq4QE%3D

caviardreams

My levels were quite low when I got blood tests a few years back - since then I supplement in winter/bad weather in summer. Got tested again recently with a batch of blood tests and my level was 80 - normal/minimum recommended level is about 50ng/ml I think. I actually find I get a lot less colds etc. since I have been supplementing.

It's very, very cheap so even taking it if you don't technically have low levels is not wasting a pile of cash, to be honest, so I can see why people do.

armabelle

Dtp1979 wrote: »

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eBtV_1UsEUw&itct=CBoQpDAYASITCNzn3cDOwc0CFU5-HAoddMIGYTIGcmVsbWZ1SIrK2cPM9dOq4QE%3D

why are you advertising this on here? nothing to do with it.

Dtp1979

armabelle wrote: »

why are you advertising this on here? nothing to do with it.

It's about vitiman D

armabelle

Dtp1979 wrote: »

It's about vitiman D

a guy that looks like that is the last person I want to be taking advice from!

Alf Veedersane

If you're upping your vitamin D intake, you should be increasing your magnesium intake as well.

Dtp1979

armabelle wrote: »

a guy that looks like that is the last person I want to be taking advice from!

That's ok. Judge a book by its cover

Dtp1979

caviardreams wrote: »

My levels were quite low when I got blood tests a few years back - since then I supplement in winter/bad weather in summer. Got tested again recently with a batch of blood tests and my level was 80 - normal/minimum recommended level is about 50ng/ml I think. I actually find I get a lot less colds etc. since I have been supplementing.

It's very, very cheap so even taking it if you don't technically have low levels is not wasting a pile of cash, to be honest, so I can see why people do.

How much do you take a day?

caviardreams

I use a spray of this every second day:
http://www.betteryou.com/dlux3000

Usually pick it up on the BOGOHP offer in H&B - 100 sprays in the bottle so lasts for ages.

The Sidewards Man

armabelle wrote: »

a guy that looks like that is the last person I want to be taking advice from!

This is generally the spec of you tube videos, clowns thinking they are experts. Unfortunately people trust these videos.

Dtp1979

The Sidewards Man wrote: »

This is generally the spec of you tube videos, clowns thinking they are experts. Unfortunately people trust these videos.

Not necessarily no. A lot of knowledgable people on YouTube. A lot of trolls too, but you know all about that already.

Danye

The Sidewards Man wrote: »

This is generally the spec of you tube videos, clowns thinking they are experts. Unfortunately people trust these videos.

As opposed to nameless "experts" posting on boards who people seem to trust??

armabelle

Danye wrote: »

As opposed to nameless "experts" posting on boards who people seem to trust??

you have to be careful with both, lot of BS online

Brian?

OP do your bones hurt? You've mentioned "symptoms" a couple of times.

I have no doubt some people could do with supplementing with vitamin D, but
It's not inevitable that you'll become deficient in it.

The rain makes us sad. Winter makes us sadder. I'd say this could be your problem tbh, I know it's mine.

The Sidewards Man

Danye wrote: »

As opposed to nameless "experts" posting on boards who people seem to trust??

What is the definition of a fitness expert?

Dtp1979

The Sidewards Man wrote: »

What is the definition of a fitness expert?

Somebody who runs their own gym, trains people, is knowledgable in nutrition and gets results

The Sidewards Man

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Somebody who runs their own gym, trains people, is knowledgable in nutrition and gets results

Thanks for that.

Danye

The Sidewards Man wrote: »

What is the definition of a fitness expert?

I didn't use the term fitness expert?

What's the definition of an expert?

The Sidewards Man

Danye wrote: »

I didn't use the term fitness expert?

What's the definition of an expert?

There is no standard measure for an expert I would have thought, have you a link to what a definition of an expert is?

Mellor

armabelle wrote: »

I do but not enough and now have symptoms

What symptoms?

Mellor

The Sidewards Man wrote: »

There is no standard measure for an expert I would have thought, have you a link to what a definition of an expert is?

Any dictionary will give you the definition;

Google wrote:

expert
ˈɛkspəːt

noun
a person who is very knowledgeable about or skilful in a particular area.
"an expert in health care"

Zillah

armabelle wrote: »

why are you advertising this on here? nothing to do with it.

It's actually a really good video on the importance of Vitamin D, how easy it is to be deficient, and gives a very interesting perspective on rectifying deficiency.

But sure, dismiss him because he's muscular?

Dtp1979

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

If you're upping your vitamin D intake, you should be increasing your magnesium intake as well.

What kind of doses of both are reccomended? And why magnesium?

Alf Veedersane

Dtp1979 wrote: »

What kind of doses of both are reccomended? And why magnesium?

Magnesium is used up in converting the vitamin D to be used by the body so increasing vitamin D will reduce the levels of magnesium.

And conversely if you don't have enough magnesium you won't be able to convert vitamin D into its active form in the body.

Magnesium is also beneficial in relation to calcium also.

As regards recommended intakes, it's not straightforward AFAIK. Standard supplement of both should be fine unless there's something else at play.