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Garda and abandoned house used for drugging

  • 21-06-2016 3:20pm
    #1
    jenny smith
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    http://www.rte.ie/radio1/liveline/podcasts/

    scroll to drugs next door

    liveline had a story about an abandoned house used for drug taking. used needles and tablets left around. children had access

    I just wondered would the garda not have the power to remove the tablets and or watch the house and raid during a session?

    Apparently now they are boarding at first they could not go in -where illegal drugs were -because it is a private house?

    This is just a curiosity nothing to do with me


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  • #2
    4ensic15
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    jenny smith wrote: »
    http://www.rte.ie/radio1/liveline/podcasts/

    scroll to drugs next door

    liveline had a story about an abandoned house used for drug taking. used needles and tablets left around. children had access

    I just wondered would the garda not have the power to remove the tablets and or watch the house and raid during a session?

    Apparently now they are boarding at first they could not go in -where illegal drugs were -because it is a private house?

    This is just a curiosity nothing to do with me
    They can go in, with a warrant!


  • #3
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I had the same issue with the house next door. Its just 2 houses together, not in an estate. They were freely coming and going through the front door. The Gardai couldnt (or wouldnt ) do much so we evicted them and boarded up the house. That was about 3 years ago now.


  • #4
    jenny smith
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    4ensic15 wrote: »
    They can go in, with a warrant!
    I don't think the need a warrant if they know there are drugs there


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    Fred Swanson
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  • #6
    Pro Hoc Vice
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    jenny smith wrote: »
    I don't think the need a warrant if they know there are drugs there

    Not correct to go into a property they will need a warrant.


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    johnnyskeleton
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    jenny smith wrote: »
    I don't think the need a warrant if they know there are drugs there

    If that were the case, are warrants only for houses where they dont know if there are drugs there or not?


  • #8
    Amanda Fennell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 ✭Amanda Fennell


    it was actually me who was on live line and no the Garda nor town council would remove needles or board it up because its private owned house even though she has washed her hands of place! and yes its been boarded up but by a local bulider who knock at my door and said he was willing to board it up to protect kids in area


  • #9
    jenny smith
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    Amanda Fennell wrote: »
    it was actually me who was on live line and no the Garda nor town council would remove needles or board it up because its private owned house even though she has washed her hands of place! and yes its been boarded up but by a local bulider who knock at my door and said he was willing to board it up to protect kids in area
    How can the builder board it without her permission when its private owned house?


  • #10
    Amanda Fennell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 ✭Amanda Fennell


    jenny smith wrote: »
    How can the builder board it without her permission when its private owned house?
    Because he said he don't care if the come after him he was just doing To keep kids safe and I appreciate it


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    Second Toughest in_the Freshers
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    Jesus, I thought there was some Abu Ghraib shît going down when I read the title...


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    Fred Swanson
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    moc moc a moc
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    jenny smith wrote: »
    How can the builder board it without her permission when its private owned house?

    With nails and a hammer, I'd imagine

    If the owner doesn't care about junkies living in their property, it's unlikely they'll care about someone putting up a few boards.


  • #14
    amen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭amen


    Not correct to go into a property they will need a warrant.

    So if someone is screaming rape/murder from a house and a Garda is walking by they cannot enter the house ?

    Or if door/window to a house is wide open and a Garda can clearly see a crime in progress they cannot enter ?


  • #15
    4ensic15
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    Of course they can enter.


  • #16
    Pro Hoc Vice
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    amen wrote: »
    So if someone is screaming rape/murder from a house and a Garda is walking by they cannot enter the house ?

    Or if door/window to a house is wide open and a Garda can clearly see a crime in progress they cannot enter ?


    I was responding to a clear statement, here it is again "I don't think the need a warrant if they know there are drugs there." I answered to that statement that a warrant would be required. If AGS are of the opinion that evidence could be destroyed then they may be found to have lawfully entered, as with if they believe there is immediate risk to person or property. Of course it may be later determined that the search was unlawful, depending on the facts that decision may (remember i say may) lead to the evidence been excluded.


  • #17
    macnug
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    Is it a illegal to board up an abandoned house? We have one in our estate that is causing a lot anti social behavior. If I board it up, what legal implications could there be.


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