Anyone ever been to a nutritionist?

irishguy1983

Have a terrible diet - always have - eat a lot of processed food and an incredible amount of sugar.

I'm pretty aware of what is healthy and what isn't! A big problem for me is I don't really like the taste of anything healthy - don't like veg,fruit,etc.

Any point in going to see a nutritionist? They can hardly make me like certain food? Could anyone recommend one in Cork?

I'm comfort eat a lot too.

Alf Veedersane

If you know what is healthy (or at least a lot healthier) and where your problem issues are, then a nutritionist (or better still, a dietitian) isn't going to make you implement the changes you need to.

You need to want to make the changes. You don't so you haven't.

deadanonymau5

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

If you know what is healthy (or at least a lot healthier) and where your problem issues are, then a nutritionist (or better still, a dietitian) isn't going to make you implement the changes you need to.

You need to want to make the changes. You don't so you haven't.

Solid advice. At least start by substituting what you currently eat for healthier alternatives.

irishguy1983

deadanonymau5 wrote: »

Solid advice. At least start by substituting what you currently eat for healthier alternatives.

I'll agree with both of the above.

I suppose I am asking what would be the point of going? For anyone really? Surely people know in general what is healthy life or not? Roughly speaking now?

Stheno

irishguy1983 wrote: »

I'll agree with both of the above.

I suppose I am asking what would be the point of going? For anyone really? Surely people know in general what is healthy life or not? Roughly speaking now?

There is no point in going unless you want to make changes.

If you currently eat e.g. a chicken fillet roll at lunchtime, and know that maybe a wrap with plain chicken, lettuce and tomato and some soup might be better, why do you need a nutritiionist to tell you that and force you to make changes?

Are you hoping that outside influence will cause you to change?

Alf Veedersane

irishguy1983 wrote: »

I'll agree with both of the above.

I suppose I am asking what would be the point of going? For anyone really? Surely people know in general what is healthy life or not? Roughly speaking now?

You'd be surprised. A lot of people have a skewed idea of what's healthy.

irishguy1983

Stheno wrote: »

There is no point in going unless you want to make changes.

If you currently eat e.g. a chicken fillet roll at lunchtime, and know that maybe a wrap with plain chicken, lettuce and tomato and some soup might be better, why do you need a nutritiionist to tell you that and force you to make changes?

Are you hoping that outside influence will cause you to change?

Yeah - fair enough - I totally agree with everything your saying.

I was more thinking 'Am I missing something here'.

I'm not - I don't need someone to tell me obvious stuff like that.

Stheno

irishguy1983 wrote: »

Yeah - fair enough - I totally agree with everything your saying.

I was more thinking 'Am I missing something here'.

I'm not - I don't need someone to tell me obvious stuff like that.

So save the money you'd spend on a consult, put it away, commit to changing one meal at a time, then treat yourself to something you'd like?

irishguy1983

Stheno wrote: »

So save the money you'd spend on a consult, put it away, commit to changing one meal at a time, then treat yourself to something you'd like?

Oh I agree completely - one small action at a time.

I suppose in the last couple of years I've changed a number of things - exercise, mediation, attitudes, etc.

Unfortunately I've never quite managed to even get a half way decent diet going unfortunately and maybe looking for outside help. However I know the pizza, packet of crisps, 4 biscuits and 2 timeout bars tonight are not helpful - I don't need anyone to tell me that. I've never put on weight which is possibly a reason why I've not changed - the biggest driver of change is pain and getting fat would be something that would be 'pain' for me.

Alf Veedersane

Wanting to change is key. You need to want it. At times it reads as though you won't act until the bad habits start to manifest themselves.

But literally just take it one little step at a time if needs be. Make the positive changes now when you can do it on your terms rather than be forced into it when you'll be in a weaker mental position.

Think of every food choice as being in me that you have complete control over rather than it being one you feel is being made for you.

The longer you wait, the harder it's going to be.

irishguy1983

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Wanting to change is key. You need to want it. At times it reads as though you won't act until the bad habits start to manifest themselves.

But literally just take it one little step at a time if needs be. Make the positive changes now when you can do it on your terms rather than be forced into it when you'll be in a weaker mental position.

Think of every food choice as being in me that you have complete control over rather than it being one you feel is being made for you.

The longer you wait, the harder it's going to be.

Yup I'm agreeing with you 100%.

There isn't enough 'pain' - if I put on weight that would drive me. At the moment it is somewhat painful but not enough - I am still fit enough, play sports and am thin. However my energy is never quite there and I think my diet does not help - I go through lot of sugar highs/lows during a day.

Extreme example but alcoholics will often keep drinking it as long as are getting 'away with it'....

Anyway thanks for listening

waffleman

A good nutritionist will give you advice on how to make the transition easier not just throw you out a menu.

For example a good tip I got was to change 1 meal per week which worked well for me.

GaGa21

irishguy1983 wrote:

There isn't enough 'pain' - if I put on weight that would drive me. At the moment it is somewhat painful but not enough - I am still fit enough, play sports and am thin. However my energy is never quite there and I think my diet does not help - I go through lot of sugar highs/lows during a day.

Have you had a health check recently? As in bloods for cholesterol and sugar levels? Type 2 Diabetes would be a worry with such a high sugar diet. Maybe that would spur you to eat healthier? Don't bother with a nutritionist..... theres plenty of info online to get you started.

irishguy1983

GaGa21 wrote: »

Have you had a health check recently? As in bloods for cholesterol and sugar levels? Type 2 Diabetes would be a worry with such a high sugar diet. Maybe that would spur you to eat healthier? Don't bother with a nutritionist..... theres plenty of info online to get you started.

I haven't to be honest but my ol fella is banging on at me to get one indeed.

My sugar intake is shocking.

hardCopy

If you do go the professional route, go to an INDI Registered Dietician. Any mug can call themselves a nutritionist.

traprunner

From my own personal experience about changing diet, it is possible to grow to like things that you never liked before. It's just a matter of continuing to expose yourself to that food. I used to hate broccoli. I hated the texture, smell and taste. Over a period of a few months I forced myself to eat it and now I'd have it a lot. You can change if you want to.

Alf Veedersane

traprunner wrote: »

From my own personal experience about changing diet, it is possible to grow to like things that you never liked before. It's just a matter of continuing to expose yourself to that food. I used to hate broccoli. I hated the texture, smell and taste. Over a period of a few months I forced myself to eat it and now I'd have it a lot. You can change if you want to.

Changing how you cook it as well is useful.

A lot of people would have been brought up being fed vegetables that were boiled to bejaysus and you ended up disliking the soggy, bland veg presented.

There are a load of ways to cook veg and involve spices that transform them and make them completely unrecognisable from the taste and texture you associate with them.

koutoubia

OP.
You are addicted to sugar.
While you are thin and fit you are a perfect model for type 2 diabetes.When you discover this 'pain' it will probably be too late to reverse it.
Learn to love fresh raw or flash fried in coconut oil veg.
Get yourself a health check.

irishguy1983

koutoubia wrote: »

OP.
You are addicted to sugar.
While you are thin and fit you are a perfect model for type 2 diabetes.When you discover this 'pain' it will probably be too late to reverse it.
Learn to love fresh raw or flash fried in coconut oil veg.
Get yourself a health check.

You could well be right - I went off all the sweets, crisps, coke, etc. about a year ago for 3 weeks. Started getting cramps in my stomach - it's like my body couldn't cope without the sugar hits. Went back on the stuff.

irishguy1983

Right I'm gonna have a healthy breakfast from now - at least it would be one small change.

Scrambled eggs and 2 slices of whole grain bread - anyone have any suggestions for something a bit quicker and easier?! Any issues with a glass of squeeze organge juice?

Apparently Special K is pretty much the worst cereal - dammit!

Blacktie.

irishguy1983 wrote:

Scrambled eggs and 2 slices of whole grain bread - anyone have any suggestions for something a bit quicker and easier?

I Dono that's pretty much as easy as it gets...

intheclouds

irishguy1983 wrote: »

Right I'm gonna have a healthy breakfast from now - at least it would be one small change.

Scrambled eggs and 2 slices of whole grain bread - anyone have any suggestions for something a bit quicker and easier?! Any issues with a glass of squeeze organge juice?

Apparently Special K is pretty much the worst cereal - dammit!

Quicker and easier than scrambled eggs and bread?

Porridge?

If I were you Id learn to ditch the fruit juices. Loaded with hidden sugar most of them. Terrible for your teeth and body.

Drink water. Just water. The odd glass of milk. The odd cup of tea/coffee.

Your go to drink should be water.

irishguy1983

Had 2 slices of Irish whole wheat bread and scrambled eggs - is that the correct bread??!

Have felt quite bloated all morning!

Speedwell

A competent nutritionist will not teach you the methods that supposedly apply to everyone, but the specific methods that apply to your body and life. If they don't attempt to determine how your body works and what things are right and not right for you, they're a quack.

intheclouds

irishguy1983 wrote: »

Had 2 slices of Irish whole wheat bread and scrambled eggs - is that the correct bread??!

Have felt quite bloated all morning!

I dont eat bread at all, doesnt agree with me. Full of hidden rubbish too.

Why not substitute the bread with the eggs for Ryvita crackers with the eggs? Good source of fibre and filling without being bloating.

Lo_La

irishguy1983 wrote: »

Had 2 slices of Irish whole wheat bread and scrambled eggs - is that the correct bread??!

Have felt quite bloated all morning!

You could try something a bit lighter for breakfast like fruit and natural yoghurt, a fruit and/or veg smoothie, healthy pancakes made from oats & banana, or just have one slice of bread and maybe an extra egg. Definitely stay away from fruit juices so much sugar in them.

Sleepy

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Dara O'Briain wrote:

Nutritionist is to dietician as toothologist is to dentist.

irishguy1983

intheclouds wrote: »

I dont eat bread at all, doesnt agree with me. Full of hidden rubbish too.

Why not substitute the bread with the eggs for Ryvita crackers with the eggs? Good source of fibre and filling without being bloating.

Give me a break!!

I'll just go with one slice tomorrow - felt quite full today.

Although Ryvita crackers could work too - don't like them but don't hate them either.

Don't really like fruit!

irishguy1983

Lo_La wrote: »

You could try something a bit lighter for breakfast like fruit and natural yoghurt, a fruit and/or veg smoothie, healthy pancakes made from oats & banana, or just have one slice of bread and maybe an extra egg. Definitely stay away from fruit juices so much sugar in them.

Not really a fruit man.

Are there good and bad yogurts? Are petit flous OK? I just remember eating them as a child and they were nice I have a feeling you are going to tell me they are bad - anything that's tastes nice seems to be bad!

Lo_La

irishguy1983 wrote: »

Not really a fruit man.

Are there good and bad yogurts? Are petit flous OK? I just remember eating them as a child and they were nice I have a feeling you are going to tell me they are bad - anything that's tastes nice seems to be bad!

Sorry but yeah they're not good at all!! Full of sugar prob why you like them so much, greek natural yoghurt is probably the best can be quite bitter so that's why its helps to mix with fruit, the glenisk yoghurts are quite good as far as I know and they are flavoured you can get the high protein ones also i've tried these and they're really nice! Good luck!

Mars Bar

Natural or Greek yogurt would be best. Flavoured yogurts tend to have much more sugar than plain yogurt.

draiochtanois

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intheclouds

You also need to get out of the mindset that you need to like things to eat them.

Food is fuel. As an adult you have to fuel the body with things that are good for it. It doesnt matter if you dont like some of them. You eat them anyway.

Now obviously, you dont eat things that revolt you. But you eat plenty of things that are just, meh.

Pretty much every breakfast I have is just, meh.

Same goes for most lunches.

I try to have a nice but healthy dinner.

If I only ate things I liked Id be 40 stone and counting.

hardCopy

Lo_La wrote: »

Sorry but yeah they're not good at all!! Full of sugar prob why you like them so much, greek natural yoghurt is probably the best can be quite bitter so that's why its helps to mix with fruit, the glenisk yoghurts are quite good as far as I know and they are flavoured you can get the high protein ones also i've tried these and they're really nice! Good luck!

The natural Glenisk are a lot lower in Sugar than the flavoured ones.

If you switch to natural you quickly forget the sweetness that you're missing.

Blacktie.

intheclouds wrote:

If I only ate things I liked Id be 40 stone and counting.

I only eat things I like and weight less than 12 stone. Sounds like you have a weird relationship with food.

Zillah

Blacktie. wrote: »

I only eat things I like and weight less than 12 stone. Sounds like you have a weird relationship with food.

There's a lot to be said for learning to like things that are good for you, especially if you're coming from a crappy diet. There would be a period in the middle of drudgery.

But yeah, that said, I find plenty of healthy things to fill my diet that I enjoy.

intheclouds

Blacktie. wrote: »

I only eat things I like and weight less than 12 stone. Sounds like you have a weird relationship with food.

Really? Thought the "food is fuel but you need to eat clean" was normal for most adults?

Every meal is a choice, for me anyway, and I have to fight it every meal to choose the right thing. I'd way prefer sausages and eggs but I have porridge. I'd way prefer burger and chips but I have a salad. I'd way prefer a Chinese takeaway but I have chicken veg and a couple of boiled spuds.

You are certainly very lucky if you don't experience the inner battle of making healthy choices each time.

Given the obesity problem this country faces I'd say you're in the minority.

Blacktie.

Zillah wrote:

But yeah, that said, I find plenty of healthy things to fill my diet that I enjoy.

Ye my diet is about 95% healthy. Has to be when cutting really but it's not hard to find healthy foods you actually enjoy. Especially with spices and herbs.

hardCopy

Blacktie. wrote: »

Ye my diet is about 95% healthy. Has to be when cutting really but it's not hard to find healthy foods you actually enjoy. Especially with spices and herbs.

Experimenting a little with different recipes while calorie counting means you can usually remove calories from your favourite foods without removing (much) of the pleasure.

I love taco fries but I can't go to Abrakebabra or Supermacs on a regular basis. Instead I make my own with lean mince, lots of peppers and minimal oil and serve over oven baked homemade wedges. I can honestly say I enjoy it as much as one I'd buy out and it comes in around 450 calories.

What I enjoy about taco fries is the beef, paprika, chilli, tomato, potato and a little bit of cheese. I don't miss the extra cooking oil and mountain of low grade cheese or the high fat mince.

The same applies to any dish, if there's an ingredient that adds little in the way of flavour or nutrition I reduce it, ditch it or replace it so that I can continue to enjoy the flavours I like in filling portions.

Dixie Chick

If you had the eggs preboiled then there would be no cooking in the morning. I have grilled 2 rasher medallions the night before as well before and had them cold on toast or bread and its fine out.

If you were feeling bloated after the eggs and toast this morning then I reckon you might need to keep it to just small changes as advised.

Do you like porridge? There is something called over night oats that you can make. Layer raw oats with yogurt and fruit and it settles into something nice and soft and is a lovely breakfast that you can grab and go.

Your tastebuds won't like real food for awhile as they are used to having the junk food. You will like it eventually though!

livedadream

irishguy1983 wrote: »

Have a terrible diet - always have - eat a lot of processed food and an incredible amount of sugar.

I'm pretty aware of what is healthy and what isn't! A big problem for me is I don't really like the taste of anything healthy - don't like veg,fruit,etc.

Any point in going to see a nutritionist? They can hardly make me like certain food? Could anyone recommend one in Cork?

I'm comfort eat a lot too.

Niamh O’Connor is based in Frankfield, im down 6 and 3/4 stone.

http://corknutrition.ie/


not from her alone but when i struggled after the first easy few stone i went to her.

she gives great advise no judgement, firm but fair.

gave me three simple things to do at my first visit,
cut out the diet coke
half my plate to be veg at lunch and dinner and
walk for 30 minutes everyday.

im sure she will be able to give you methods of introducing fruit and veg into your diet in an easy way

my moms old favourite is cutting them tiny and hiding them in things.