Mondeo 2008 auto diesel

steveshort

Im considering looking at a Mondeo Diesel and id prefer an Auto. I aware that Tax is higher on the auto but im willing to pay the extra, my only concern is the auto transmission.
I recall reading somewhere that the auto box in these fords can be problematic,
has anyone got any experience with these cars and auto transmissions?

Thanks in advance

martinr5232

No problem with them really oil and filter has to be changed every 60k or you will have trouble though.
Lovely car to drive was going to bring one in from across the water but the duty was 1k more than a manual.

Just seen your looking at an 08 thought it was 10 those gearboxes are maintenance free as far as i can remember.

shietpilot

I'd say the automatic is less trouble than a manual with the DMF

steveshort

Thanks martin

I have my eye on a damaged one and theres no history with the car so dont know if the oil and filter where changed, its currently at 160kms. The TB was changes at 120 kms, this is marked on the engine.

steveshort

yea thats a fair point shietpilot

I perfer autos myself but some of these modern autos can be a nightmare and I was burned before with a multitronic Audi

Atlantic Dawn

steveshort wrote: »

The TB was changes at 120 kms, this is marked on the engine.

I'd take that as a pinch of salt unless there's documentation to prove it.

steveshort

Its the only info I have on the car currently, the service book it lost.
Id be inclined to believe its genuine as the car is clean and has 4 new Bridgestone tyres, this is usually a sign that some has taken care of a car. The date the the belt was changed is even noted on the engine cover

shietpilot

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I'd take that as a pinch of salt unless there's documentation to prove it.

Haha, I remember I was selling a car once and I got a buyer calling me from DoneDeal.

Here's how the conversation went:
Him: "Has the timing belt been changed?"
Me: "I'm not sure. I haven't changed the timing belt during my ownership and I don't have service history for it so I don't know"
Him: "Just open the bonnet and check the engine, it should say when it was last changed"

I can just imagine the amount of sellers that get away with just marking the TB cover with tippex

bazz26

steveshort wrote: »

Its the only info I have on the car currently, the service book it lost.
Id be inclined to believe its genuine as the car is clean and has 4 new Bridgestone tyres, this is usually a sign that some has taken care of a car. The date the the belt was changed is even noted on the engine cover

Assume nothing. Do proper background checks on the car. While the service book might be lost most of the service information should be available from the dealers who did the servicing. And the majority of UK car owners are particular about servicing and documenting it. A lost service history book while possible is just too convenient unless proven otherwise.

UK fleet cars rack up hefty annual mileage while still looking fresh because most of them spend their time on the decent motorway network. Altering the mileage is not a big effort on a cheap bought high mileage car that is in good nick. Writing a tb change note with tipex on the engine cover can add to the illusion and proves nothing without paperwork. The Mondeo is one of the most favorite fleet cars in the UK so I certainly wouldn't buy one without doing proper mileage and history verification on one.

grogi

steveshort wrote: »

Im considering looking at a Mondeo Diesel and id prefer an Auto. I aware that Tax is higher on the auto but im willing to pay the extra, my only concern is the auto transmission.
I recall reading somewhere that the auto box in these fords can be problematic,
has anyone got any experience with these cars and auto transmissions?

Thanks in advance

2008 would have the first generation of AWTF-80 transmission. That is a Japaneese gearbox from Aisin-Warner, with torque converter based design. Does not need DMF - so happy days...

Unfortunately, those boxes are often being neglected by not having the ATF changed at all. If it runs fine now and changes smoothly, get it.

Do three static changes over ~1000km to a quality JWS3309 liquid (Toyota ATF T-IV or Volvo 1161540-8 are usually priced very good at the dealers network). That would make the fluid clear (approximately 90% will get replaced that way).

Henry Ford III

steveshort wrote: »

Thanks martin

I have my eye on a damaged one and theres no history with the car so dont know if the oil and filter where changed, its currently at 160kms. The TB was changes at 120 kms, this is marked on the engine.

I'd change it (the tb) as a precaution. Tippex on the cover is cheap.

martinr5232

Henry Ford III wrote:

I'd change it (the tb) as a precaution. Tippex on the cover is cheap.

Very true and those belts are not very expensive to replace either.

steveshort

Thanks guys some very helpful information there.

Im hoping to view the car on Sunday, if it all looks good Ill get a cartel report done.

I will change the belt and was planning on servicing the transmission also.

lfc200

martinr5232 wrote: »

Very true and those belts are not very expensive to replace either.

Would that model Mondeo not have the wet and dry belts? If it does they are quite a bit more expensive than a standard belt....

martinr5232

lfc200 wrote:

Would that model Mondeo not have the wet and dry belts? If it does they are quite a bit more expensive than a standard belt....

Youre right i got it into my head we were talking about a 2l for some reason.

steveshort

It is a 2.0 litre diesel,

Is it not the 1.8 that have the more complex timing belt ?

stefanovich

steveshort wrote: »

Im considering looking at a Mondeo Diesel and id prefer an Auto. I aware that Tax is higher on the auto but im willing to pay the extra, my only concern is the auto transmission.
I recall reading somewhere that the auto box in these fords can be problematic,
has anyone got any experience with these cars and auto transmissions?

Thanks in advance

Please don't buy a ****ty diesel. Please. Please.

martinr5232

steveshort wrote:

Is it not the 1.8 that have the more complex timing belt ?

1.8 have the wet belts and are fairly expensive.
The 2l are cheap enough to replace and a cheaper engine to maintain.

lfc200

martinr5232 wrote: »

1.8 have the wet belts and are fairly expensive.
The 2l are cheap enough to replace and a cheaper engine to maintain.

Apologies just had in my head that it was a 1.8!