U.K. Plates

CaraMay

Under what circumstances can a Spanish citizen who is working in Ireland drive a uk registered car for years, without penalty. They live her and kids are in school here.

GerardKeating

CaraMay wrote: »

Under what circumstances can a Spanish citizen who is working in Ireland drive a uk registered car for years, without penalty. They live her and kids are in school here.

Legally none.

There does not seem to be any willingness to crack down on this, I always kind of assumed the issue of Irish residents driving UK cars is not high enough for them to risk a court case that they might lose in Europe.

foggy_lad

CaraMay wrote: »

Under what circumstances can a Spanish citizen who is working in Ireland drive a uk registered car for years, without penalty. They live her and kids are in school here.

Have you reported them to the authorities? That would be my first step.

Many people driving foreign registered vehicles here are not paying road tax here but more importantly they are often not insured at all. I knew of one person locally who was driving a UK registered car for a couple of years without insurance, he was applying for insurance in the UK and paying the first month and then not paying for the remainder of instalments. vehicle was also taxed in the UK. He had his car confiscated by revenue/customs officers and afaik did not claim it back as the charges were too high.

Esel

foggy_lad wrote: »

Have you reported them to the authorities? That would be my first step.

Step carefully. Vewy vewy carefully.

Little CuChulainn

Report them to customs.

CiniO

If he's working for UK based employer, and this is his company car, then he might be doing it legally.

lifeandtimes

Can someone explain this too me?

I was unaware of a foreign national not being allowed drive a UK registered car? Why not?

Are they not allowed purchase a car here with a UK registration and drive it? Provided all insurance and tax etc is taken care of?

foggy_lad

lifeandtimes wrote: »

Can someone explain this too me?

I was unaware of a foreign national not being allowed drive a UK registered car? Why not?

Are they not allowed purchase a car here with a UK registration and drive it? Provided all insurance and tax etc is taken care of?

you can't tax a foreign registered vehicle here and insurance would also be problematic, also the law is pretty clear that once you import a vehicle you must register it within a certain time unless the vehicle is used by someone not normally resident here.

Fred Swanson

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foggy_lad

CiniO wrote: »

If he's working for UK based employer, and this is his company car, then he might be doing it legally.

Only if they are normally resident in the UK.

CiniO

foggy_lad wrote: »

Only if they are normally resident in the UK.

No true.

10. Can a State resident drive a foreign registered vehicle for business use?
A State resident can not normally drive a foreign registered vehicle for business use. However, there are a number of exceptional circumstances in which this rule does not apply. Those exceptional circumstances are:-

A State resident who is employed by an employer established in another Member State may, on application to the Revenue Commissioners, be approved to use a Category A vehicle or a motor-cycle registered in another Member State (either owned or leased by the employer) for business/private use in the State provided
the vehicle is provided as part of the contract of the employment, and
it is used principally for business use outside the State.
Application forms for this temporary exemption are available from any Revenue Office.

A State resident who is employed by an employer established in another Member State is eligible to use Category B & C vehicles registered in another Member State (either owned or leased by the employer) for business/private use in the State.
A State resident who is an employee of a car-hire firm established outside the State is allowed to drive a vehicle for the purpose of returning it to the firm after the vehicle was left in the State on expiry of a hire contract.
In other circumstances where authorised in writing by the Revenue Commissioners.
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http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/leaflets/temporary-exemption-foreign-registered.html

GM228

CiniO wrote: »

If he's working for UK based employer, and this is his company car, then he might be doing it legally.

foggy_lad wrote: »

Only if they are normally resident in the UK.

Cinio is actually correct, under EU law an Irish resident who is a cross-border worker (i.e lives in one member state and works in another member state) but returns home at least once a werk can legally use their non Irish company registered vehicle for private use in Ireland.

CaraMay

He works in a garage in town. He's not cross border anything

daRobot

Why is this any of your business?

CaraMay

daRobot wrote: »

Why is this any of your business?

Why is this any of yours?

ohnonotgmail

daRobot wrote: »

Why is this any of your business?

why is the OP asking a question any of your business? do you see how that works?

daRobot

CaraMay wrote: »

Why is this any of yours?

The fact that you haven't answered me, leads me to think you want to report this person for some reason.

And if this is indeed the case, it's very petty and you're likely to get nowhere.

my friend

CiniO wrote: »

If he's working for UK based employer, and this is his company car, then he might be doing it legally.

No that would not be legal based on the length of time noted

Fred Swanson

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daRobot

Fred Swanson wrote: »

Revenue take such reports seriously and they will investigate.

They would with an Irish resident, sure. But not with anyone else.

CosmicSmash

daRobot wrote: »

The fact that you haven't answered me, leads me to think you want to report this person for some reason.

And if this is indeed the case, it's very petty and you're likely to get nowhere.

You seem to be well up on the activities of customs but I'm starting to think you're talking out your arse all the same. Why would customs have no interest in a possibly uninsured driver that could be avoiding road tax and vrt?

my3cents

daRobot wrote: »

They would with an Irish resident, sure. But not with anyone else.

I know of two cases locally were people with residences in both Ireland and they UK got caught. The owners were keeping a car here to drive when thye flew over from the UK but if the car was here all the time then it had to be registered here.

CiniO

my friend wrote: »

No that would not be legal based on the length of time noted

Because ?

daRobot

CosmicSmash wrote: »

You seem to be well up on the activities of customs but I'm starting to think you're talking out your arse all the same. Why would customs have no interest in a possibly uninsured driver that could be avoiding road tax and vrt?

See the difference between the EU resident and the Irish resident, one is black and white, one is not. An Irish resident has got 30 days, even for a personal import not liable for VRT, and the insurance companies are obliged to report it.

I know plenty of non Irish folk who have driven for years on foreign plates. There's a reason they get away with it. The interest to prosecute isn't as strong. Assuming you're an Irish resident, try driving around on yellow plates and see how long it is until you get a tug.

Little CuChulainn

daRobot wrote: »

Why is this any of your business?

daRobot wrote: »

The fact that you haven't answered me, leads me to think you want to report this person for some reason.

And if this is indeed the case, it's very petty and you're likely to get nowhere.

Tax evasion is everyones business

CiniO wrote: »

Because ?

I believe it can only be full time fixed term work that is exempt. If the car is in the country full time it must be registered.

CiniO

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Tax evasion is everyones business



I believe it can only be full time fixed term work that is exempt. If the car is in the country full time it must be registered.

Not neccesserily according to link I provided above.

Fred Swanson

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CiniO

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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According to revenue website, you indeed do need that in case of category A vehicle (f.e. car), but looks like you don't need written exemption in case of category B or C vehicles (vans, trucks, buses)

chillin117

Do they specifically target UK reg cars ? Would the risk of being stopped/questioned decrease with say a French or German reg ?

OldMrBrennan83

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GerardKeating

daRobot wrote: »

Why is this any of your business?

Because Tax evaders push up the tax for the "normal" tax payer.

Basically people like this are taking money from YOUR pocket.

shrapnel222

Just the idea that they may be driving without insurance would certainly be my main worry, and reason enough to flag it.

.G.

If the authorities were that arsed they'd be visiting Travellers encampments on a daily basis.

CaraMay

I can't bloody locate the link to report it on.

relax carry on

CaraMay wrote: »

I can't bloody locate the link to report it on.

It's on the home page, right hand side.

http://www.revenue.ie/en/business/shadow-economy/reporting.html

Discodog

Customs were walking around car parks in Galway looking for UK registration cars. I know someone, who is here visiting family, who got asked for their UK id, address etc.

my3cents

Discodog wrote: »

Customs were walking around car parks in Galway looking for UK registration cars. I know someone, who is here visiting family, who got asked for their UK id, address etc.

Good idea in those circumstances to have your travel documents handy which prove how long you have had the vehicle in the country and that you are taking it back.

Fred Swanson

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