Season 6 Episode 8 "No One" - "Book readers"

Nody

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Savage Tyrant

Jaysis.... The Hound must have really liked Lovejoy.

GerB40

What did Cersei ask Qyburn to investigate?

J. Marston

GerB40 wrote: »

What did Cersei ask Qyburn to investigate?

Wildfire.

GerB40

Holy fúck yeah, I was actually thinking there was a 'mad king' look in her eyes when the Mountain ripped yer mans head off...

mutley18

Anyone recognise YouTube impressionist Dr Steve Love making a cameo in this? From doing Game of Thrones impressions in his bedroom to having a small part on the show, nice!

J. Marston

The episode 9 preview is incredible.

I've probably never been more excited about anything on TV ever.

Savage Tyrant

Arya's stomach injuries were very inconsistent weren't they?
She flinched and held her gut getting up from the bed to check on Lady Crane.
But she was able to leap out a window and run 2 miles through the streets with no problem.
Then she could barely walk through the last few alley ways
Then the fight with the Waif we didn't get to see.... Then I suppose, neither did she, that was the point.
Then still bleeding heavily goes to the HoBaW... Declared herself a Stark and was able to walk out with purpose with no sign of injury.

All that said, I still enjoyed the episode. The Hound stole the show again.

The Pheasant2

Am I the only one pissed off with Arya's scenes in this episode? I mean first off she survives being stabbed a couple of times in the belly and miraculously resists infection of sort after diving into a filthy canal.

But jumping out of second story windows and doing a high speed chase a couple of days after getting stitched up? Just all too easy...I mean I know it's only a TV show but that's plain ridiculous

J. Marston

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

Arya's stomach injuries were very inconsistent weren't they?
She flinched and held her gut getting up from the bed to check on Lady Crane.
But she was able to leap out a window and run 2 miles through the streets with no problem.
Then she could barely walk through the last few alley ways
Then the fight with the Waif we didn't get to see.... Then I suppose, neither did she, that was the point.
Then still bleeding heavily goes to the HoBaW... Declared herself a Stark and was able to walk out with purpose with no sign of injury.

All that said, I still enjoyed the episode. The Hound stole the show again.

Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.

The Pheasant2

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

Arya's stomach injuries were very inconsistent weren't they?
She flinched and held her gut getting up from the bed to check on Lady Crane.
But she was able to leap out a window and run 2 miles through the streets with no problem.
Then she could barely walk through the last few alley ways
Then the fight with the Waif we didn't get to see.... Then I suppose, neither did she, that was the point.
Then still bleeding heavily goes to the HoBaW... Declared herself a Stark and was able to walk out with purpose with no sign of injury.

Snap

The Pheasant2

Also the waif ominously walking after Arya was all just a bit T-1000

GerB40

So trial by combat is not allowed anymore, Cleganebowl has been postponed at least. Cerseis transformation into the mad king is complete.
Arya looks for help from someone familiar (in a city where people can change their fúckin faces) and trusts her new bff enough to drink milk of the poppy, all the while still suffering from getting a fairly serious stabbing.
The last of the badass old school warriors dies off-screen. R.I.P. Blackfish...
Beric Dondarrion is alive. It's good to see the Brotherhood Without Banners in their post Red Wedding nihilistic fashion. "War makes monsters of us all". At least there is some sort of order. If Lady Stoneheart appears it's going to seem way too late.
Daenerys came back in the nick of time. Her story was unbearably slow for so long and now there's not enough time to make sense of it.
And Arya finally leaves the House of Black and White as Arya Stark. Good to see.
The Hound and The Brotherhood made this episode, Bronn really does rob every scene he's in. The rest of the episode was okay but the pieces are in motion, there's only two episodes left and a LOT of story to get through..

rawn

I can't believe how much they're wasting Tyrion. One of the best characters portrayed by one of the best actors in the series and all they do is have him in awkward filler scenes with Misendei and Grey Worm.

I'm pretty sure Arya slid under a fruit cart directly on her stomach. Her injuries were laughably inconsistent but can't wait to see what happens with her now.

Dany drops in to say hello while her city is being destroyed, Drogon flies away while her back is turned. Awesome, I'm sure he'll be right back.

(I actually really enjoyed the episode but needed to get that frustration out!)

J. Marston

rawn wrote: »

I can't believe how much they're wasting Tyrion. One of the best characters portrayed by one of the best actors in the series and all they do is have him in awkward filler scenes with Misendei and Grey Worm.

I'm pretty sure Arya slid under a fruit cart directly on her stomach. Her injuries were laughably inconsistent but can't wait to see what happens with her now.

Dany drops in to say hello while her city is being destroyed, Drogon flies away while her back is turned. Awesome, I'm sure he'll be right back.

(I actually really enjoyed the episode but needed to get that frustration out!)

I assumed Drogon was going to take care of those ships.

What's very annoying about this episode is Arya was actually just being an idiot last week. No Jaqen bait and switch, just Arya being a dope strolling around town defenceless while a face-changing assassin was after her.

lertsnim

The Pheasant2 wrote: »

Also the waif ominously walking after Arya was all just a bit T-1000

That whole scene reminded me of the T1000 chasing the T800 in Terminator 2

duffman13

Enjoyed that, the Arya stuff was a bit messed alright but pretty decent filler episode before the battle of the bastards which looks amazing. Bron needs more screen time, literally makes me laugh everything he's on same with the Hound.

I wonder was Varys aware of what was happening with the masters coming back, he seemed to be unhappy with the truce and then is off to Westeros to gather some support for Dany.

LionelNashe

I think the Jamie/Edmure scene was the best bit of writing we've seen in a long time. Good acting by Edmure as well.

EagererBeaver

Wow...that was a big steaming pile of ****e. They had so many options with what the last episode meant for Arya but no, everything was exactly as it seemed. A Terminator style chase? Not very Faceless Men of the waif to be honest.

What was with the skipping of fight scenes? "Oh yeah, that guy? Dead. That other guy? Dead.".


Thoros and Dondarrion back and talking about going north? Bored of it. At least with Dondarrion back we can finally nail the Lady Stoneheart coffin shut.

Tyrion, Missandei and Grey Worm drinking and sharing jokes? What the actual **** was that about?!

FURET

Dreadfully predictable and full of plot holes and contrivances. This show is now like Xena Warrior Princess.

Son0vagun

I enjoyed it. But I could tear it to pieces if I thought about it. Most annoying thing is that over the last week, fans have come up with some amazing theories regarding Ayra, but the writers just went with the obvious yet unrealistic option. And the Blackfishs death is just another cast cull, slim lining the story for the last couple of seasons.

awec

Arya must be drinking plenty of milk for nice strong bones. All those falls and jumps and nothing broken.

EagererBeaver

I don't understand the purpose of Blackfish retaking Riverrun. Was it all purely to allow Jamie and Brienne to meet up again?

In books, Blackfish was in Riverrun the whole time and not at red wedding. When Riverrun is surrendered, he escapes and is presumably preparing to be a bad bastard somewhere about the place. In the show, he was needlessly at the Red Wedding, recaptured Riverrun off screen and then loses it again and dies. Pointless and wasteful use of a great character.

awec

EagererBeaver wrote: »

I don't understand the purpose of Blackfish retaking Riverrun. Was it all purely to allow Jamie and Brienne to meet up again?

In books, Blackfish was in Riverrun the whole time and not at red wedding. When Riverrun is surrendered, he escapes and is presumably preparing to be a bad bastard somewhere about the place. In the show, he was needlessly at the Red Wedding, recaptured Riverrun off screen and then loses it again and dies. Pointless and wasteful use of a great character.

I am guessing they want Jamie, Brienne and Edmure in the riverlands for future plots.

radharc

awec wrote: »

I am guessing they want Jamie, Brienne and Edmure in the riverlands for future plots.

Brienne is on the way out of the Riverlands, having accomplished sweet **** all.

The Jaime Edmure scene was strong, nearly everything else was poor. There were so many exciting directions they could have taken the Arya Waif battle, it's hard to think of a worse option than the chosen one. The Tyrion banter scene was painful (and almost identical to one we already had to endure) and the Blackfish departing offscreen totally underwhelming.

The disappointing thing for me is that a lot of the fan theories are so much more interesting than the choices made by the writers; I constantly overestimate them and they rarely fail to disappoint.

Mr.Prodston

- Well I guess we can safely say that there's going to be no Lady Stoneheart then. I'm not at all disappointed to see Beric but considering only one of the two can be "alive" then it's not happening.

- I can understand Arya leading the Waif back to that secluded, darkened room. Makes perfect sense. However it was quite a rigmarole she went through wasn't it that didn't really require risking her death and death of others? And Jaqen is happy to let her leave?

- The Blackfish was a bit of a letdown. What happens the Tully's now?

- Is Varys heading back to Westeros for a little tactical murdering? What a silly sod he'll think when he sails past all those Greyjoy ships.

- Cersei/Qyburn rumours. Whatever would those be?

- The Riverlands/Hound Country is a refreshing change of scene though. it's nice to see some green and trees and rivers :pac:

It's much better than Season 5 though.

eeguy

It was ok as episodes go.

Bit too much filler when there were so many awesome scenes that could have been used.
Blackfish fight
Arya fight
Drogon burning the fleet

All overlooked so we could have some jokes and more exposition.

Best line goes to the hound "Bigger girls than you have tried to kill me"

Thought it was a painfully average episode, similar to the last two episodes.
It's disappointing, as when they get stuff right, GOT is excellent television

Why kill off the Blackfish here? Even if he escaped on his own, and traveled North, he could have missed the battle next week, but arrived in the future to help.

The Arya stuff was hot and cold. I think all the theories people had surrounding the stabbing last week were very far-fetched, and think her surviving, while a bit of a leap in terms of realism, was a better choice.
I did laugh to myself when the Waif was walking through the arch, and we saw the man that many people thought was Syrio. He couldn't be more unlike him in the end.
I also liked that Arya put out the candle to fight the waif. That made a lot of sense

Finally, surely the writers watch these episodes, and get bored by Mereen. They can't seriously watch it, and think that this is excellent television.
What a waste of Tyrion and Vary's. They might be tied up in where they are, but surely they can write better scenes for them. It's almost as if they know the scenes are poor, and think, "You know what will make this better? Boats that swing fire in high circles"

TonyCliftonEsq

Load of bollocks.

Arya's entire Faceless Men storyline just pointless.

How many female characters do we have now that are basically invincible? It was laughable the way she survived that stabbing and then was able to defeat the waif. Jumping out windows and falling down steps? What a crock.

The rest of the episode was crap too.

Apart from the Hound. But no Cleganebowl?

**** OFF

awec

I think the Cersei Qyburn thing is to do with Daenerys. I think Cersei is going to side with Dany.

As for Lady Stoneheart - she could yet make an appearance if Beric dies in the next few episodes.

Daith

Brienne does the same thing in the books, I.e nothing. Her story is more to show Riverlands after the war in the books.

Blackfish could have fought in the North. Though I guess him and Rickon dying next week would be tough to take.

Dany was hilarious arriving at the end.

Enjoyed the Hound literally pissing on Lady Stoneheart.

I thought Jamie would start winking at the camera..."Cersei would burn a city!"

This show...throw out your theories. What you see is what you get!

EagererBeaver

awec wrote: »

I think the Cersei Qyburn thing is to do with Daenerys. I think Cersei is going to side with Dany.

As for Lady Stoneheart - she could yet make an appearance if Beric dies in the next few episodes.

Cersei and Qyburn are discussing wildfire. No doubt about it.

Lady Stoneheart is done. You think the BWB is transporting and preserving her corpse about the place in the event Dondarrion dies again and Thoros can't raise him? Disappointing but she's not happening.

Graham_B18C

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Cersei and Qyburn are discussing wildfire. No doubt about it.

How do you know this though? I've never seen anyone mention wildfire in it in ages. Qyburn said about the "little rumour" which led me to believe they were talking about Tyrion being in Mereen. He was also the first character on screen after it was mentioned

Danjamin1

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Cersei and Qyburn are discussing wildfire. No doubt about it.

Lady Stoneheart is done. You think the BWB is transporting and preserving her corpse about the place in the event Dondarrion dies again and Thoros can't raise him? Disappointing but she's not happening.

Yeah LS is gone now, Edmure has been held for a number of years since the Red Wedding, LS is done & dusted at this stage.

duffman13

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Cersei and Qyburn are discussing wildfire. No doubt about it.

I don't know, Cersei knows all about wildfire as she originally commissioned it before Tyrion found and used it on the blackwater. Do you think Cersei plans to burn the city or the Sept of Baelor?

The Dany thing would be really interesting if that was the rumour but I can't see Cersei betraying Tommen for anything.

Also the blackfish not being seen dead on camera (I know, another of screen death), the way the men looked at Edmure when he told them to put blackfish in chains could lead them to pretend Blackfish is dead but we did hear and a fight. It's too cheap a way for Blackfish to die too! I'm hoping the Lannister army get diced in there sleep with the Freys, not gonna happen but a man can hope!

Falthyron

Tyrion has dreams of owning a vineyard. Tyrion is going to die now.

EagererBeaver

Falthyron wrote: »

Tyrion has dreams of owning a vineyard. Tyrion is going to die now.

Wish he'd talk about his dragon dreams a bit more than useless filler segments with Missandei and Grey Worm.

awec

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Cersei and Qyburn are discussing wildfire. No doubt about it.

Lady Stoneheart is done. You think the BWB is transporting and preserving her corpse about the place in the event Dondarrion dies again and Thoros can't raise him? Disappointing but she's not happening.

Why would she need Qyburn for that? She knows all about it?

LionelNashe

awec wrote: »

I am guessing they want Jamie, Brienne and Edmure in the riverlands for future plots.

Along those lines, I think the writers wanted Jamie out of kings Landing so that he could survive the coming firestorm. Same goes for Olenna.

Come to think of it, Cersei encouraged Jamie to leave, and tried to get Olenna to stay.

wp_rathead

Fecking delighted they kept Beric and didn't do LSH- The Hound continues to get the best lines in the show
We might not get Cleganbowl in a Trial by Combat - but I'm sure the two will meet at some stage

Nice to see Mountain Zombie rip face of one of the Faith Militant- the actor who plays Lancel really is nailing the "Try Not to Look Scared When Obviously Terrified" face

About the Wildfyre- Yes Cersei knew about there being Wildfyre but I'm guessing Quborn's "little birds" found out about the Mad King's pyromancers having it planted throughout all of Kingslanding...

I have to say, they could have done without Ayra getting stabbed in previous episode, was no real need for it, just have the Waif chasing her through the city- it still would have worked
I liked how Ayra used the darkness, her training from being blind, to kill the Waif who was beating the ****e into her at start of season - wasn't there something from episode 1 of Ayra going "It's not fair I'm blind" and Waif going "That is your problem"

The scene with Jaime and Edmure in the tent was brilliant acting from the both of them - and funny how Jaime had to be a dick to Edmure to avoid bloodshed

I've horrible feeling Varys will be going to Dorne - but anyone else find it intersting that it was almost as soon as Varys left Mireen the Slave Masters attacked- like we know that he isn't happy with the religous fantaics have such power there now
I'm prob in the minority but I rather liked the "joke" scene with Tyrion, Greyworm and Missandei

Yes the episode had problems, but was still very enjoyable imo

duploelabs

Cercei already had the pyromancers making buckets of wildfyre prior to the battle of the blackwater until Tyrion, who was the hand at the time, said they they'd be making the wildfyre for him

EagererBeaver

awec wrote: »

Why would she need Qyburn for that? She knows all about it?

Does she? Can't remember from books? In show she's been talking about burning cities and houses and castles to the ground for years.

Obviously I don't know that's what they were talking about but I'd put plenty of money on it.

bada_bing

i was actually bored with this episode just mostly filler and nothing much happens as usual in terms of the main storylines. Am sick of this Mereen storyline, i wish they'd just move on and focus on the main plot. In fact i think the previous 3 episodes could've been condensed into one interesting episode.

rawn

J. Marston wrote:

I assumed Drogon was going to take care of those ships.

That would make sense except Drogon isn't exactly obedient! But i really really hope we get to see him blasting the ships in the next episode

duffman13

rawn wrote: »

That would make sense except Drogon isn't exactly obedient! But i really really hope we get to see him blasting the ships in the next episode

That scene from two episodes ago was meant to act as the bonding of Dany to Drogon so he should be a lot more obedient now. He'll wipe those ships out in seconds hopefully then on to the bastards!

J. Marston

Yep, Drogon's a good boy now.

He does all the commands; Sit, roll over, incinerate our enemies.

duploelabs

J. Marston wrote: »

incinerate our enemies.

DRAKARUS

rawn

J. Marston wrote:

He does all the commands; Sit, roll over, incinerate our enemies.

I have a feeling, for budget reasons, that we'll just see the aftermath of Drogon destroying the ships but i would have loved to see Dany dismount at the pyramid and say 'dracarys' to Drogon and watch him incinerate the ships. I think it would have been a nice throwback to Astapor, to remind everyone that when Dany isn't giving unnecessary speeches she can occasionally be a bit of a badass!

Suryavarman

This episode reminded why the Hound is my favourite character. The disparaging one-liners and brutal violence are an absolute joy to behold.

The Mountain ripping the head clean off one of the Faith Militant was peculiarly pleasurable.

Although Arya's killing of the waif was satisfactory, her scenes were a bit far fetched. The heavy blood loss and general discomfort from having a stab wound in the midsection should have made her more acrobatic moves impossible.

EagererBeaver

Anyone else think the menace of the Faith Militant was really undermined? They were supposed to bring Cersei in, vowed to use violence if they compelled to, one lad had a bit of an upset so the rest of them scarpered? Not very fanatical of them.

GerB40

Following developments in this episode, I feel this video is very significant. Cersei and The Mad Queen theory https://youtu.be/2aPiAeYBNyI