Is Blue Monday the best Tune Ever

uch

as an old fart and listening to it now, it has to be the best tune ever


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bul0dJVfFQ&index=1&list=RD9Bul0dJVfFQ

Two Tone

uch wrote: »

as an old fart and listening to it now, it has to be the best tune ever

One of my favourite tunes ever - and so timeless. Heard it coming from the pub around the corner recently - changed my mind about having an early night as it lured me in there! Just so infectious.

FluffyAngel

imagine if you mashed the boomtown rats and new order together,you could have a song title called "Tell me why i don't like blue Mondays"

Chain Smoker

Sure its not even as good of a song as the New Order single that preceded it

I'm aware that's the 87 version

suicide_circus

How does it feel?

dodzy

Class.

But toto/Africa seals the deal for me.

Give yourself an ear-treat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTQbiNvZqaY

If you're not at least trying to sing along, you're dead inside!

Alf Stewart.

Meh.

Just electro/synth pop, with a mediocre vocalist if you want my opinion.

Alf Stewart.

Alf Stewart. wrote: »

Meh.

Just electro/synth pop, with a mediocre vocalist if you want my opinion.

Actually, you're too kind, he was a terrible singer.

One of the big head scratchers was him and Marr forming Electronic...and allowing him sing.

Either way, Blue Monday was great. But it was great 30 years ago. Was sick to death of it 25 years ago. One of the most overplayed tunes ever.

dodzy

dodzy wrote: »

Class.

But toto/Africa seals the deal for me.

It was good enough...but taken up by the "aren't I gas, I know an 80s power ballad" crew and ruined.

See also Spandau Ballet's "Gold". Though that was crap to begin with.

Joe_ Public

Surely the question should be "is Donna Summer's Our Love" the best Tune Ever" because that's who New Order nicked it off.

Felix Jones is God

More of an "Unfinished Sympathy" by Massive Attack man myself

World in Motion is the best football song ever mind you.

Badly Drunk Boy

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Surely the question should be "is Donna Summer's Our Love" the best Tune Ever" because that's who New Order nicked it off.

Because of a bit of a drumbeat? Nah!

bnt

Is that a question. If so, no, I'd say Mozart, Beethoven and Verdi had better tunes?

Joe_ Public

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

Because of a bit of a drumbeat? Nah!

You're right. I think the question should be changed to "is Gerry and the Holograms the best Tune Ever" because that's where New Order nicked the other half of it from.

Ronald Wilson Reagan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ahU-x-4Gxw

silverharp

uch wrote: »

as an old fart and listening to it now, it has to be the best tune ever


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bul0dJVfFQ&index=1&list=RD9Bul0dJVfFQ

the sidebar list is great all the best 80's 12"and extended versions, funnily enough I was just trying to explain what a 12" single was to my son because it was on the radio recently. its for sure the song that was king of the 12"

The Golden Miller

Preferred them when Ian Curtis was the frontman. Insight is a better song

fryup

don't know about best tune ever but definitely ...best 12 inch ever

12 inch single remember them , god i feel old

LightsStillOn

It's good, very good. But the best song ever is Good Vibrations by The Beach Boys

hidinginthebush

My serious answer is like a rolling stone by Bob Dylan. My more fun guilty pleasure answer is into the groove by Madonna

bnt

bnt wrote: »

Is that a question. If so, no, I'd say Mozart, Beethoven and Verdi had better tunes?

You'd be hard pushed to call Moonlight Sonata a "tune".. It's pretty obvious what OP meant and it doesn't include classical.




Anyways, yeah it's an amazing song. It came on in the bar yesterday afternoon and everyone perked up.

Cienciano

Deleted User wrote: »

World in Motion is the best football song ever mind you.

3 Lions is not only the best football song, its the best football song by a mile.

KungPao

I'm more of Bizarre Love Triangle fan. Always felt that Blue Monday lacked something, let's call it heart. And yer man doing his Ian Curtis impression in BM is a bit lame.

Winterlong

I need to dust off my blue Monday twelve inch. It's a great song, but not the best one.

Osgoodisgood

Cienciano wrote: »

3 Lions is not only the best football song, its the best football song by a mile.

I assume you mean apart from Vindaloo?

KungPao

^^

Underrated classic

gramar

It's not even the best New Order song. My own NO favourite is 60 miles an hour. There are still 1000 songs by other artists I prefer though.

AnonoBoy

LightsStillOn wrote: »

It's good, very good. But the best song ever is Good Vibrations by The Beach Boys

God Only Knows is better than Good Vibrations.

'Til I Die is pretty boss too.

gramar

AnonoBoy wrote: »

God Only Knows is better than Good Vibrations.

'Til I Die is pretty boss too.

God only knows is better than 99.999999999% of songs written.

AnonoBoy

gramar wrote: »

God only knows is better than 99.999999999% of songs written.

It really is flawless.

Paul McCartney apparently had to pull his car over and stop driving the first time he heard it. It was too good not to give his full attention to.

Discodog

AnonoBoy wrote: »

It really is flawless.

Paul McCartney apparently had to pull his car over and stop driving the first time he heard it. It was too good not to give his full attention to.

According to Beatles producer George Martin, "Without Pet Sounds, Sgt. Pepper never would have happened....Pepper was an attempt to equal Pet Sounds."

Radiosonde

AnonoBoy wrote: »

It really is flawless.

Paul McCartney apparently had to pull his car over and stop driving the first time he heard it. It was too good not to give his full attention to.

Brian Wilson also had to pull over when he first heard "Strawberry Fields Forever" on his car radio. He was working on material for Smile at the time and reportedly told whoever was with him "exactly what I was planning to do and they've already done it."

Two Tone

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Surely the question should be "is Donna Summer's Our Love" the best Tune Ever" because that's who New Order nicked it off.

Yes, I have seen New Order in interviews being happy to admit - without being asked - that the beat on I Feel Love was a huge influence on Blue Monday. Just the beat though, the tunes are certainly not similar.

With regard to Bernard Sumner's voice, definitely not a great singer, but I don't know if a great voice is a requirement for a good pop/rock song? Holding a tune is sufficient I think, and Bernard can do that no hassle. Lou Reed and Bob Dylan - much worse voices but still brilliant.

Junkyard Tom

This charted 35 years ago and is better imho - the multiple rhythmic layers give it a sound very ahead of its time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1wg1DNHbNU

glynf

I'll always like for Blue monday, though I think Bizarre Love Triangle and Temptation are better songs. This thread needs more JD:

Joe_ Public

Two Tone wrote: »

Yes, I have seen New Order in interviews being happy to admit - without being asked - that the beat on I Feel Love was a huge influence on Blue Monday. Just the beat though, the tunes are certainly not similar.

It's not just a beat though, is it? There's a few other bits in there as well and there's also this:

Anyway, I'm not saying fans of the song will probably care that much. Most bands will lift material at some point in their careers, Blue Monday just happens to be towards the cheeky end of the spectrum I think. I like Your Silent Face an awful lot more.

Herb Powell

Is this the best thread ever?

edbrez

All about the Falklands' war.

bnt

If it's Tunes you want, the Beatles and Beach Boys have already been mentioned, and then came these folks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUrzicaiRLU

Diemos

I really like these covers:

and the mellower:

Badly Drunk Boy

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

Because of a bit of a drumbeat? Nah!

Morris was a brilliant drummer. I suspect in New Order he was the one who got the most credit from other musicians, even if he was kinda in the shadow of Sumner and Hook in the band's image.

http://youtu.be/QVc29bYIvCM

AnonoBoy

Discodog wrote: »

According to Beatles producer George Martin, "Without Pet Sounds, Sgt. Pepper never would have happened....Pepper was an attempt to equal Pet Sounds."

Heard that alright. They felt that Pet Sounds was so good they had to try and equal it.

In much the same way Country House was written as a riposte to Shakermaker in the super talented Blur/Oasis feud of the 1990s.

uch

bnt wrote: »

If it's Tunes you want, the Beatles and Beach Boys have already been mentioned, and then came these folks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUrzicaiRLU

Banned

donegaLroad

uch wrote: »

Banned

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Dirty Dingus McGee

Crystal is an even better song.

Your Face

That song is pish.

LightsStillOn

AnonoBoy wrote: »

God Only Knows is better than Good Vibrations.

'Til I Die is pretty boss too.

God Only Knows is better lyrically, I'll give you that. But the production on Good Vibrations is mind blowingly good, it hasn't been topped since.

Honestly could take any track off Pet Sounds or The Smile Sessions and it could be in with a shout of being the best song ever. Brain Wilson in his prime was something else.

Two Tone

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Anyway, I'm not saying fans of the song will probably care that much. Most bands will lift material at some point in their careers, Blue Monday just happens to be towards the cheeky end of the spectrum I think. I like Your Silent Face an awful lot more.

Jeez that Gerry And The Holograms tune is class - never heard of it before!

I can certainly hear the drumbeat influence from Our Love and I Feel Love on Blue Monday, and the same style synths, but I genuinely cannot hear a similarity in the tunes, and I think a rip-off of a song is only when the same melody is used. There is a difference between influence and copying. I also can't hear how New Order would have ripped off Gerry And The Holograms' melody either - that has three notes over and over, and there are points in Blue Monday where that same sequence is used, but otherwise it is a different tune I think.

I could be seen as biased as I am a huge fan of New Order, but just New Order 1980 to 1989 (only like the very odd thing by them in the 27 years since - most of it is fairly disappointing I think, with the odd exception like Crystal) and overall I prefer Joy Division. I am also musically trained and can play by ear so I can spot a good rip-off! However, that said, rip-offs can be subjective too, and if people think Blue Monday sounds exactly the same as Gerry And The Holograms, not gonna tell them their personal opinion is wrong... just that I don't share that opinion (those are two different things, right? )

My favourite New Order song is Everything's Gone Green, which Blue Monday kinda rips off in terms of the melody actually.

Two Tone

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

This charted 35 years ago and is better imho - the multiple rhythmic layers give it a sound very ahead of its time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1wg1DNHbNU

I prefer Blue Monday but god I love Talking Heads! This Must Be The Place - this must be one of the best songs ever!

Zaph

Two Tone wrote: »

This Must Be The Place - this must be one of the best songs ever!

My all time favourite song. I really hope the rumours that they're back recording and touring next year are true.