Nick Carraway Gay?

tonyheaney

I'm currently reading/watching The Great Gatsby and while I am doing Gatsby for my leaving cert my questions not related to the LC

1. Is Nick Carraway Gay? everything suggests he is,

2. The story is told from one person's perspective what do you think the story would have turned out if

A. it was told by some other character, or characters?
B. How would you think the book would be like if the story was told by a
bunch of characters and not just Nick?

Lemsiper

1. No, he's bi.

2. a It would be different.
b It would also be different.

kjl

You know they have google for these kind of questions, We are not here to do your homework.

tonyheaney

Lemsiper wrote: »

1. No, he's bi.

2. a It would be different.
b It would also be different.

I'm sitting here reading it and In ch1 i feel someone tore out 2 whole pages, I'm thinking i could have wrote it better esp if i added others opinions, how about you? what you think would have happened?

Lemsiper

tonyheaney wrote: »

I'm sitting here reading it and In ch1 i feel someone tore out 2 whole pages, I'm thinking i could have wrote it better esp if i added others opinions, how about you? what you think would have happened?

Try channel 3, you may get a better reception.

Esel

tonyheaney wrote: »

I'm sitting here reading it and In ch1 i feel someone tore out 2 whole pages, I'm thinking i could have written it better esp if i added others opinions, how about you? what you think would have happened?

FTP

Sorry, we are talking literature here...

tonyheaney

kjl wrote: »

You know they have google for these kind of questions, We are not here to do your homework.

Yes i am doing it for Leaving cert


NO it's not homework Its just a personal opinion as someone who is reading the book

Wibbs

OK shoot me down in flames here and no doubt many will, but I never quite got the deal with that book. Certainly not to the degree of adulation some seem to attach to it.

tonyheaney

Wibbs wrote: »

OK shoot me down in flames here and no doubt many will, but I never quite got the deal with that book. Certainly not to the degree of adulation some seem to attach to it.

me too but i feel if someone was to one day come up with a parallel book seen from all the charters perspective i bet it would be a completely different book.

But

Wibbs

kjl wrote: »

You know they have google for these kind of questions, We are not here to do your homework.

Maybe the lad is just looking for opinions and counter opinions from non google bots and links? And maybe he wanted a general angle on it, rather than a literature forum angle which may go down its own rabbit hole. Just a thought. We are in, or we are supposed to be in a discussion site and the lad has opened a discussion. Game ball. Christ if I was his age *moleman voice* you lot would have eaten me alive. TH is still in the game battling away. Kudos Sir.

tonyheaney

Wibbs wrote: »

Maybe the lad is just looking for opinions and counter opinions from non google bots and links? And maybe he wanted a general angle on it, rather than a literature forum angle which may go down its own rabbit hole. Just a thought. We are in, or we are supposed to be in a discussion site and the lad has opened a discussion. Game ball. Christ if I was his age *moleman voice* you lot would have eaten me alive. TH is still in the game battling away. Kudos Sir.

Well said wibbs and thank you. I'm on the last chapter now and I'm wondering what if i decided to flesh out and rewrite this book using all the charters personal opinions not just nicks how would it turn out.


so there you go other posters show me your writing skills how would you write the book?

Also i have a few times been eaten alive for asking questions on a discussion board, its odd.

Wibbs

Lemsiper wrote: »

1. No, he's bi.

Maybe, or maybe not. That label could just as easily be our modernist(post?) angle on it. Over time and culture there are many examples of men and women expressing a connection and admiration with the same sex that has eff all to do with a desire to fiddle with other's units of generation. In some odd way these days, the "love that dare not speak its name" that Oscar noted is "passionate" friendship.

Wibbs

tonyheaney wrote: »

Also i have a few times been eaten alive for asking questions on a discussion board, its odd.

As I said T, if I was you back then I'd have peed myself and ran away to play with my lego. So fair dues.

The interwebs is an odd place. On the one hand it's a fcuking fantastic place, where you can meet and learn and debate with so many different voices, but on the other hand it can be vicious with those voices. In ways that in the past you'd rarely encounter. You get so much more smooth, but accompanied by so much more rough. Maybe cos you grew up with it like another thing in life, like cookers and cars and air, it's easier for you to navigate it? I dunno, but I do know if I fired up my Tardis and was dropped into this melee studying for my LC, I'd have likely needed a bed in a local care ward. Sure the best thing about the younger mind is its plasticity, but by god you guys these days have so much more to be dealing with. At least from where I'm standing.

Hey, maybe there's a Great Gatsby for the social media generation to be written? That need for acceptance, that need to fit in, when you may not quite fit in, that feeling of false excess, that feeling of breakneck change you can't quite catch up to, that feeling of wonderfully polished and primped "reality" and the decay that may lay beneath. And love among all that. Hell, you may end up writing it T. Now that would be a thing indeed.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Wibbs wrote: »

OK shoot me down in flames here and no doubt many will, but I never quite got the deal with that book. Certainly not to the degree of adulation some seem to attach to it.

I was slightly disappointed with it as well.

I often wonder if I hadn't went in with such high expectations maybe I would have had a better view of it then.Nothing worse than having really high expectations of anything before going to read a book.Conversely there is nothing better than having low expectations of a book/film and being surprised by how good it is.

tonyheaney

Wibbs wrote: »

As I said T, if I was you back then I'd have peed myself and ran away to play with my lego. So fair dues.

The interwebs is an odd place. On the one hand it's a fcuking fantastic place, where you can meet and learn and debate with so many different voices, but on the other hand it can be vicious with those voices. In ways that in the past you'd rarely encounter. You get so much more smooth, but accompanied by so much more rough. Maybe cos you grew up with it like another thing in life, like cookers and cars and air, it's easier for you to navigate it? I dunno, but I do know if I fired up my Tardis and was dropped into this melee studying for my LC, I'd have likely needed a bed in a local care ward. Sure the best thing about the younger mind is its plasticity, but by god you guys these days have so much more to be dealing with. At least from where I'm standing.

Hey, maybe there's a Great Gatsby for the social media generation to be written? That need for acceptance, that need to fit in, when you may not quite fit in, that feeling of false excess, that feeling of breakneck change you can't quite catch up to, that feeling of wonderfully polished and primped "reality" and the decay that may lay beneath. And love among all that. Hell, you may end up writing it T. Now that would be a thing indeed.

It's nice to meet a fellow Whovian Wibbs I wish i had a TARDIS io wish i could go back and do my leaving cert 28 years ago but at 40 (in 3 weeks) it's sure a difficult task indeed. Also having kids is not making it easy to study.

It sounds like you have experience in book writing i bet you could def wright The Greater Gatsby better than I.

I have always wanted to write a book i feel i do have a story to tell but the lack of education and an untrained mind prevents me from doing so sadly.

tonyheaney

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

I was slightly disappointed with it as well.

I often wonder if I hadn't went in with such high expectations maybe I would have had a better view of it then.Nothing worse than having really high expectations of anything before going to read a book.Conversely there is nothing better than having low expectations of a book/film and being surprised by how good it is.

My wife said to me the other day

If the trailer for the movie is exceptional than that is because the best bits are there what left is crap and your tricked into handing over your hard earned cash for drivel

I 100% agree

quickbeam

I never got that Nick Carraway was gay. But then, I never really "got" the book in general. I thought it was pretty much a pile of dung. Not because I was made read it for my Leaving (20+ years ago) - as there were other books we also did that I did enjoy, but simply because it bored the shyte out of me, and the characters were completely vapuous and uninteresting. The Robert Redford film was also pretty shyte, and I didn't bother with the Leonardo DiCaprio one.

Olishi4

I havent read The Great Gatsby OP but your post reminds me of a painting my parents have. Its one of those generic paintings of famous people.

James Dean is the bar tender. And Marilyn Monroe, Elvis Presley and Humphrey Bogart are sitting at the bar. Elvis and James Dean are looking at Marilyn Monroe but Hunphrey Bogart is looking up from his paper at James Dean. It always made me wonder what the original maker of the picture was trying to say? Although perhaps he just wanted another drink.

Esel

Olishi4 wrote: »

I havent read The Great Gatsby OP but your post reminds me of a painting my parents have. Its one of those generic paintings of famous people.

James Dean is the bar tender. And Marilyn Monroe, Elvis Presley and Humphrey Bogart are sitting at the bar. Elvis and James Dean are looking at Marilyn Monroe but Hunphrey Bogart is looking up from his paper at James Dean. It always made me wonder what the original maker of the picture was trying to say? Although perhaps he just wanted another drink.

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