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Freeview channels arent showing

  • 04-06-2016 5:51pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,076 ✭✭✭


    So I have a set top box connected to my tv via cable, it has tuned in about 50 channels but I can only view the Irish channels, in the settings I have it set to uk but if I change it to Ireland it will only tune 9 channels, any idea what Im doing wrong?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,759 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    So is your source a standard aeriel or satellite dish?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,076 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    So is your source a standard aeriel or satellite dish?

    Sorry, a satellite dish, tv is a samsung that has saorview/freeview.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    What kind of STB? The specs of the TV won't have any bearing on what the STB can receive &, anyway Freeview is the UK terrestrial service, nothing to do with satellite.

    I'd guess you actually have a terrestrial aerial connected, & the extra channels in UK setting are the Saorview 'test' channels that are hidden in Ireland setting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,076 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Thurston? wrote: »
    What kind of STB? The specs of the TV won't have any bearing on what the STB can receive &, anyway Freeview is the UK terrestrial service, nothing to do with satellite.

    I'd guess you actually have a terrestrial aerial connected, & the extra channels in UK setting are the Saorview 'test' channels that are hidden in Ireland setting.

    No Ive a satellite connected.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    No Ive a satellite connected.

    Connected to what exactly?

    Was the dish set up for free & legit reception of Irish channels, the service known as Saorsat?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    A FreeView box only works with a conventional aerial and will only get a signal if it is in range of a UK transmitter. A FreeSat box is required to get the UK channels if you are connecting to a satellite dish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,076 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Thurston? wrote: »
    Connected to what exactly?

    Was the dish set up for free & legit reception of Irish channels, the service known as Saorsat?

    Set up for Sky originally and replaced last year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    Replaced with what? Did you do the replacement yourself?

    Anyway, what you're describing looks like terrestrial reception. Did someone just change the connector on the cable from the dish, & connect it to a terrestrial tuner?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,076 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Thurston? wrote: »
    Replaced with what? Did you do the replacement yourself?

    Anyway, what you're describing looks like terrestrial reception. Did someone just change the connector on the cable from the dish, & connect it to a terrestrial tuner?

    No it was done by a satellite installer, he replaced a rusted dish with another, Im able to get all channels on a box that cant be named so cant see why it wont work for freeview.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    ... Im able to get all channels on a box that cant be named so cant see why it wont work for freeview.

    Right ... If you can get 'all channels' why do you want 'freeview'? (Notwithstanding that Freeview is a terrestrial service, as already mentioned.)

    Or do you mean 'all Irish channels', & you're not getting any UK channels, even those that are free-to-air?

    Where were you changing settings between UK & Ireland, the TV itself, or the 'box that can't be named'?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,076 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Thurston? wrote: »
    Right ... If you can get 'all channels' why do you want 'freeview'? (Notwithstanding that Freeview is a terrestrial service, as already mentioned.)

    Or do you mean 'all Irish channels', & you're not getting any UK channels, even those that are free-to-air?

    Its a different room, first cable goes downstairs, 2nd goes to the tv in my room, I think its a problem with the cable because some of the Irish channels keep glitching, ill give it a google.

    2nd paragraph is my problem (I know I worded it terribly)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    Its a different room, first cable goes downstairs, 2nd goes to the tv in my room, I think its a problem with the cable because some of the Irish channels keep glitching, ill give it a google.

    So you're trying to tune in the Samsung TV you mentioned? It actually has a satellite tuner (not just 'Freeview' in the specs.), with an f-connector (screw type connector) labeled 'LNB in' or similar, & you've connected a cable from the dish to this connector?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,076 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Thurston? wrote: »
    So you're trying to tune in the Samsung TV you mentioned? It actually has a satellite tuner (not just 'Freeview' in the specs.), with an f-connector (screw type connector) labeled 'LNB in' or similar, & you've connected a cable from the dish to this connector?

    No sorry its a cable going from the set top box to the tv.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    No sorry its a cable going from the set top box to the tv.

    What is it connected to on the STB, a UHF modulator that sends an analogue version of the channel the STB is currently tuned to? If that's the case, you'll need to scan for analogue channels on the TV.

    If it's just an 'aerial out' loopthrough, you won't be getting any 'freeview' channels.

    If you can't make head or tail of the above, maybe post the make & model of the box. Model no. of the TV too, if you want someone to look at the specs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,076 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Thurston? wrote: »
    What is it connected to on the STB, a UHF modulator that sends an analogue version of the channel the STB is currently tuned to? If that's the case, you'll need to scan for analogue channels on the TV.

    If it's just an 'aerial out' loopthrough, you won't be getting any 'freeview' channels.

    If you can't make head or tail of the above, maybe post the make & model of the box. Model no. of the TV too, if you want someone to look at the specs.

    Ill try the analogue tomorrow cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Dark and Long


    Hi, I've recently just moved to Dundalk and am having the same problem, bought a freeview/saorview tv, when auto-tuning by picking ireland, it picks up the 8/11 odd irish tv channels, nothing else, then when I switch to UK it says during the auto-tuning that 50 digital channels were found, plus 4 data and the radio stations, but when you exit the tuning, it just has the few irish channels listed, nothing else. Anyone know why this would be?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    Hi, I've recently just moved to Dundalk and am having the same problem, bought a freeview/saorview tv, when auto-tuning by picking ireland, it picks up the 8/11 odd irish tv channels, nothing else, then when I switch to UK it says during the auto-tuning that 50 digital channels were found, plus 4 data and the radio stations, but when you exit the tuning, it just has the few irish channels listed, nothing else. Anyone know why this would be?


    Presumably RTE is on channel No. 1

    Is it possible the NI freeview channels start at channel 800 on the epg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭donegal.


    would you normally expect to get a freeview reception in dundalk? (i mean bbc etc using an aerial, not freesat or saorview)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    donegal. wrote:
    would you normally expect to get a freeview reception in dundalk? (i mean bbc etc using an aerial, not freesat or saorview)


    Family members of mine are getting Freeview in Balbriggan, North Co. Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Dark and Long


    FRIENDO wrote: »
    Presumably RTE is on channel No. 1

    Is it possible the NI freeview channels start at channel 800 on the epg

    By autotuning and choosing "Ireland", RTE1, 2, TV3 etc start at 1. By choosing "UK" while autotuning my TV guide starts at 800 (RTE1,etc) and goes to ~825, so only 25 channels including tv and radio, even though during autotuning it says 50 digital tv channels were detected?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    By autotuning and choosing "Ireland", RTE1, 2, TV3 etc start at 1. By choosing "UK" while autotuning my TV guide starts at 800 (RTE1,etc) and goes to ~825, so only 25 channels including tv and radio, even though during autotuning it says 50 digital tv channels were detected?


    You possible are not getting a freeview signal.
    Saorview also broadcast a number of blank place holder stations, if the total number of stations adds up to 50, I don't know.
    With some Saorview approved tv's the blank Saorview channels are hidden from the epg.

    Did the last occupier of the house have access to NI freeview?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Dark and Long


    FRIENDO wrote: »
    You possible are not getting a freeview signal.
    Saorview also broadcast a number of blank place holder stations, if the total number of stations adds up to 50, I don't know.
    With some Saorview approved tv's the blank Saorview channels are hidden from the epg.

    Did the last occupier of the house have access to NI freeview?

    Don't know the last occupier and the landlord hadn't a breeze! I can see the blank stations also that saorview throws up on the epg, as in 800-811 have stations listed, then 812-820 nothing but are there, then the radio channels, possibly a few more blank stations, nowhere near 50 though. It's just annoying me that it says 50 channels detected during auto-tuning and then the epg has 11!! I can't understand why this would be the case. I've heard people talk about boosters or something, is it possible I need one of these?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    Don't know the last occupier and the landlord hadn't a breeze! I can see the blank stations also that saorview throws up on the epg, as in 800-811 have stations listed, then 812-820 nothing but are there, then the radio channels, possibly a few more blank stations, nowhere near 50 though. It's just annoying me that it says 50 channels detected during auto-tuning and then the epg has 11!! I can't understand why this would be the case. I've heard people talk about boosters or something, is it possible I need one of these?


    I don't have Saorview myself, possibly somebody else can give a clearer answer.
    But it sounds about right with approximately 11 Saorview Tv channels (some would be test)
    Saorview also has 9/10 radio stations.
    So possibly the other 29/30 are test channels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,550 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    The Saorview channels available are.....

    RTE ONE HD
    RTE TWO HD.
    TV3.
    3e.
    TG4.
    UTV Ireland.
    RTE News Now.
    RTEjr.
    RTE ONE +1
    RTE Aertel Digital


    The Freeview channels are listed here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    I've recently just moved to Dundalk and am having the same problem, bought a freeview/saorview tv, when auto-tuning by picking ireland, it picks up the 8/11 odd irish tv channels, nothing else, then when I switch to UK it says during the auto-tuning that 50 digital channels were found, plus 4 data and the radio stations, but when you exit the tuning, it just has the few irish channels listed, nothing else.

    Is there an outdoor aerial on the house? If so, maybe post a pic. if you want some info. WRT possible ability to receive Freeview.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    I can see the blank stations also that saorview throws up on the epg, as in 800-811 have stations listed, then 812-820 nothing but are there, then the radio channels, possibly a few more blank stations, nowhere near 50 though. It's just annoying me that it says 50 channels detected during auto-tuning and then the epg has 11!! I can't understand why this would be the case. I've heard people talk about boosters or something, is it possible I need one of these?

    Between the 2 Saorview multiplexes a TV will find 71 or 73 "channels", they include TV channels, radio channels, "hidden" blank TV and radio channels (plus data channels).

    On a Saorview TV set to Ireland LCN 1-50 are the TV and blank channels, 200-220 are the radio and blank channels, 251-255 are data channels. The blank channels are "hidden" but can be selected by inputting the LCN no. directly on the remote control, some of them carry testcards e.g. 12 & 14. We don't know the reason for all the blank channels.

    On a TV set to UK all channels are stored and "visible" from 800 upwards including the blank channels.

    Looks like you aren't picking up the UK Freeview channels, maybe no compatible aerial pointing to a NI Freeview transmitter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭StreetLight


    The Cush wrote: »
    We don't know the reason for all the blank channels.

    I assumed the blank channels were just placeholders, so that if a new service came on stream, it would already be recognised by the customer's box/TV and would appear in the EPG automatically without the need for a re-tune.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    I assumed the blank channels were just placeholders, so that if a new service came on stream, it would already be recognised by the customer's box/TV and would appear in the EPG automatically without the need for a re-tune.

    I don't see 40-50 channels queuing up to join Saorview at any time in the future for all those placeholders. In any case some receivers automatically add channels, others require a retune.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Dark and Long


    Thurston? wrote: »
    Is there an outdoor aerial on the house? If so, maybe post a pic. if you want some info. WRT possible ability to receive Freeview.
    The Cush wrote: »
    Between the 2 Saorview multiplexes a TV will find 71 or 73 "channels", they include TV channels, radio channels, "hidden" blank TV and radio channels (plus data channels).

    On a Saorview TV set to Ireland LCN 1-50 are the TV and blank channels, 200-220 are the radio and blank channels, 251-255 are data channels. The blank channels are "hidden" but can be selected by inputting the LCN no. directly on the remote control, some of them carry testcards e.g. 12 & 14. We don't know the reason for all the blank channels.

    On a TV set to UK all channels are stored and "visible" from 800 upwards including the blank channels.

    Looks like you aren't picking up the UK Freeview channels, maybe no compatible aerial pointing to a NI Freeview transmitter.

    Cheers for the replies. I just assumed Freeview would be readily available in Dundalk as I've heard most people around here have it. I'll have a look at the ariel this evening and post a pic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭donegal.


    Cheers for the replies. I just assumed Freeview would be readily available in Dundalk as I've heard most people around here have it. I'll have a look at the ariel this evening and post a pic.

    alot of people near me here in donegal will say they have freeview but they actually have freesat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,550 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    donegal. wrote: »
    alot of people near me here in donegal will say they have freeview but they actually have freesat.
    If the signal is received via an aerial then its freeview and if by satellite dish then freesat although its a common enough term to use though i.e. "freeview" :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,048 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    muffler wrote: »
    If the signal is received via an aerial then its freeview and if by satellite dish then freesat although its a common enough term to use though i.e. "freeview" :)

    I don't have 'Freesat' but I do have FTA Satellite (Free to Air) ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,550 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    I don't have 'Freesat' but I do have FTA Satellite (Free to Air) ;)
    Thats nice :)


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