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Saturday - Derby Day!

  • 03-06-2016 8:44pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,931 ✭✭✭✭


    And my best bet is in Ireland.

    My father bumped into David Redvers awhile back and was talking to him about some of the horses Qatar Racing have. When asked about the plans for Ainippe, he said that they'd be looking to send the horse back to the Curragh to win the 6 furlong race that it had won the previous year. What's interesting is that he talked about this race before the two races Ainippe ran this season. He said the hope was they'd get good ground, and if the horse won, they'd be pushing onto bigger things. Well, needless to say, Ainippe contests the Ballyrogan stakes, the race it won last year. Going report is good to firm, which definitely suits this. I am struggling to see how Ladbrokes have gone as big as 7/1 on this, this one has proven form and Ger Lyons is in cracking form. All in!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭closcriobh


    Sounds like a good 'un - cheers Francie. Can always trust Ger Lyons to get them right anyway, amazing trainer.

    I'm hoping Found can confirm the Golden Horn form tomorrow and beast Postponed at Epsom. 7/2

    Going for the ever-reliable Weld/ Smulleh combo in the Derby with Harzand - conditions should suit and five places with Sky Bet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    Second Step is interesting at 25/1 in the coronation cup, Cumani taking on his old favourite that he trained, axe to grind??!! I'm tempted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭maximo31


    Portage 6.30 cur , us army ranger Derby , Midnight macchiato 2.15 muss , Magnetic force 1.50 tramore and Ainippe 6.00 curr . All in EW cross doubles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭sting60


    Poets Word 5/2 2pm Epsom.His form is outstanding and looks group quality.R Roudee 14/1Epsom 3.45 may need softer but is very honest.Skylark Lady 13/2 Hexham 2.40 if she jumps she will win.Roseisarose 11/2 Curragh 4.50.Bred for speed on fast ground a big player.Burren View Lady 16/1 will love the dry ground and is well treated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    My god did anyone see Spencer on the third there hahahah absolutely horrendous. Typical Spencer ride he was near last and absolutely flew for a never nearer third. That fella is some liability


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭uxiant


    My god did anyone see Spencer on the third there hahahah absolutely horrendous. Typical Spencer ride he was near last and absolutely flew for a never nearer third. That fella is some liability

    If you backed every horse Spencer rode in 2016 you'd be in profit. He knows how to ride a race most in the most efficient manner and is criminally underrated these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    uxiant wrote: »
    If you backed every horse Spencer rode in 2016 you'd be in profit. He knows how to ride a race most in the most efficient manner and is criminally underrated these days.

    Aw my goodness got a chuckle out of that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭uxiant


    I wonder how many of these "staying" on horses would get beaten a lot further by other jockeys who don't ride racehorses with the same efficiency. I'll keep Spencer onside while others keep disagreeing with the figures. Underrated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    You do realise that a jockey showing a positive ROI means nothing? Sure if a jockey rode a 100/1 winner yet rode 98 losers and 2 winners in a season he'd be in profit. What's the % of wins to rides? That's more telling


    20% this season to date quite impressive actually. Should probably be about 30 given some of the rides


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭uxiant


    I don't follow jockeys blindly but Spencer is one of the jockeys I'd prefer to see on my selections. His strike rate has been high his whole career and is at 19% this season.

    He gets a load of hate for riding horses who are staying on at the finish but I would say most other jockeys would get beaten further on the same horse for going off too fast. For me he gets his splits spot on more often than not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    That Sayana will be a different filly at Ascot or Newmarket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Shanee.


    Looked to be hanging all over the track


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,931 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    for gods sake - just throw it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    Postponed is different class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    That was impressive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,931 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Nice little run out for Ryan Moore in anticipation of the main event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    Cannot see postponed being beaten this season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    2/1 for the King George won't last long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,123 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Has anyone had any dealings with BetBright.

    They sent me a text enhancing Postponed to 3/1 for max bet £10 which i used the link and placed the bet and got the bet receipt.

    After it won i got a text saying the bet is void and my 10 was returned.

    In live chat they said I was not on the list of people they texted and I have to take a screenshot of the message and email it to them.

    Its not really the money it seems very unprofessional that I have to go to the trouble of proving they texted me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭pollocks


    Royal boru in the next at tramore


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭Wicklow Brave


    Ulysses and Deauville in the big one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    Hoping US Army Ranger can do the business. Aidan should have a good line of form with the English and Irish classic trials.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭pollocks


    pollocks wrote: »
    Royal boru in the next at tramore

    Hope a few got on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭closcriobh


    I've doubled up Camellia Japonica with Francie's selection in 18:00. Hoping the former can bounce back to the form once shown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭abarkie


    Hoping US Army Ranger can do the business. Aidan should have a good line of form with the English and Irish classic trials.

    Done at 1.2 in running

    Didn't think it was getting there myself, beat mine though - Cloth of stars


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,666 ✭✭✭Howjoe1


    Bring back Joseph!


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    uxiant wrote: »
    I don't follow jockeys blindly but Spencer is one of the jockeys I'd prefer to see on my selections. His strike rate has been high his whole career and is at 19% this season.

    He gets a load of hate for riding horses who are staying on at the finish but I would say most other jockeys would get beaten further on the same horse for going off too fast. For me he gets his splits spot on more often than not.

    Never ceases to amaze me how many punters don't understand this.

    The 'logic' appears to be that if any horse held up that finishes strongly is a terrible ride and would have won if only it was ridden prominently, which really is a little stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭sting60


    If Spencer is getting vilified why not Moore who seems to be at sea at Epsom.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    uxiant wrote: »
    If you backed every horse Spencer rode in 2016 you'd be in profit. He knows how to ride a race most in the most efficient manner and is criminally underrated these days.

    Funny enough he had a very decent 2015 with horses like Big Orange


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    sting60 wrote: »
    If Spencer is getting vilified why not Moore who seems to be at sea at Epsom.

    Don't worry, give him another season of rides in classics like that and Aidan might be having words with him like he did with Kinane and Murtagh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,722 ✭✭✭posturingpat


    Talking out of my pocket as i was waiting on him for an e/w trixie but Keane had no interest in winning on Ainippe there. Not saying he would've even placed never mind win but at least try. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭faoile@n


    Talking out of my pocket as i was waiting on him for an e/w trixie but Keane had no interest in winning on Ainippe there. Not saying he would've even placed never mind win but at least try. :mad:
    absolute rubbish.

    Horse is gone at the game. Never traveled. Nothing Keane could do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,722 ✭✭✭posturingpat


    faoile@n wrote: »
    absolute rubbish.

    Horse is gone at the game. Never traveled. Nothing Keane could do.

    Could've gave the horse a squeeze, sat out the back and didn't move a muscle until it was all over. Travelled perfectly well. Were you looking at Lynams animal by any chance in the similar silks?
    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,931 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    And my best bet is in Ireland.

    My father bumped into David Redvers awhile back and was talking to him about some of the horses Qatar Racing have. When asked about the plans for Ainippe, he said that they'd be looking to send the horse back to the Curragh to win the 6 furlong race that it had won the previous year. What's interesting is that he talked about this race before the two races Ainippe ran this season. He said the hope was they'd get good ground, and if the horse won, they'd be pushing onto bigger things. Well, needless to say, Ainippe contests the Ballyrogan stakes, the race it won last year. Going report is good to firm, which definitely suits this. I am struggling to see how Ladbrokes have gone as big as 7/1 on this, this one has proven form and Ger Lyons is in cracking form. All in!
    I am sorry - that was beyond garbage. If it means anything to anyone, I had my entire days betting allowance on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭closcriobh


    I am sorry - that was beyond garbage. If it means anything to anyone, I had my entire days betting allowance on it.

    It was unfortunate more so than anything! On his Facwbook blog today Ger Lyons was very positive about his chances so they were definitely expecting better - but that's racing I suppose!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,931 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Anyone know anything about dogs? I have Droopys Roddick in the Derby :pac:


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