Petrol Stations

Stephen15

Why do they require such large sites especially in city like Dublin in a housing crisis especially. Firstly there is a complete lack of them in Dublin CC which seems to down to size the ones in the suburbs tend to use relatively large sites I think this is a waste of space which could be used for affordable housing along all the other derelict sites in dublin. All petrol stations require is a place for cars to pull in and a few pumps so why do require so much space considering in the past kerbside petrol stations were relatively common and still are in other European countries another solution is having multi story carparks double up as petrol stations.

josip

During the last housing crisis all the petrol stations in the city were sold to developers and were changed to apartment blocks.
Which means that Ushers Quay can rip off everyone

tomwaterford

Probably to allow for underground storage of petrol

Can't imagine houses/apartment blocks built over a petrol tank would be a big goer??

Cee-Jay-Cee

Who's going to want a house built on a petrol station forecourt!!!

First of all 99.999% of filling stations are privately owned, they're not state property and the owners can make them as big it as small as the planning authorities allow.

Larger stations allow for more cars and trucks/buses to use the facilities without gridlock.

I personally think your argument/point is ridiculous.

Atlantic Dawn

Planning won't allow any new fuel stations be built near housing.

PARlance

josip wrote: »

During the last housing crisis all the petrol stations in the city were sold to developers and were changed to apartment blocks.
Which means that Ushers Quay can rip off everyone

Get with the times. Usher Quay was the first one to go to 99c for diesel. It remains competetive and is 3c under the national average at present.

Pumps.ie

FortySeven

They're not petrol stations anymore. They sell more varied product lines than supermarkets carried in the 1980s. A crying shame really. The next person in front of me buying 4 99s causing me a five minute wait is very likely to end up with a rather chilly prostate.

Sick to death of it. I just want petrol!

Atlantic Dawn

PARlance wrote: »

Get with the times. Usher Quay was the first one to go to 99c for diesel. It remains competetive and is 3c under the national average at present.

Pumps.ie

I suppose once they are giving you a full litre it could be competitive :pac:

THE first successful prosecution of a service station for using fuel pumps which "under-measure" the amount of petrol and diesel being sold to motorists has taken place.

The petrol station, which enjoys one of the most central locations in Dublin city, was fined €14,000 in Dublin District Court after pleading guilty to the offences of using an unverified instrument and selling short fuel measures.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/dublin-service-station-fined-14k-for-fuel-overcharging-26789954.html

PARlance

Is that from before or after the change of ownership?

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

That was before it became esso / topaz


Also, OP is silly

Sure theres a big empty space there around chapalizod , close to the city. We could build hunderds of apartments or houses there.

I mean, who needs a park anyway :rolleyes:

ProudDUB

Stephen15 wrote: »

Why do they require such large sites especially in city like Dublin in a housing crisis especially. Firstly there is a complete lack of them in Dublin CC which seems to down to size the ones in the suburbs tend to use relatively large sites I think this is a waste of space which could be used for affordable housing along all the other derelict sites in dublin. All petrol stations require is a place for cars to pull in and a few pumps so why do require so much space considering in the past kerbside petrol stations were relatively common and still are in other European countries another solution is having multi story carparks double up as petrol stations.

Ushers Quay
The one just down from Connolly Station
The one on East Wall Rd, next door to Aldi
At the bottom of Richmond Rd in Ballybough

Maybe not all city centre locations, but they are damm near too it.

Daft post imo. Petrol stations exist, because people need to put petrol in their cars. Given the costs involved in building them, installing pumps, tanks, all the safety stuff & whatnot, it doesn't make sense to just build a tiny forecourt, with just the one pump, for one car. There is plenty of unused land, derelict sites, boarded up buildings etc etc available to use for housing, without needing to close down all the petrol stations. We just need to be smarter with the land and property that we already have.

Winterlong

The idea of a tax on stupid ideas could really take off!

Karmella

FortySeven wrote: »

The next person in front of me buying 4 99s causing me a five minute wait is very likely to end up with a rather chilly prostate.

Sick to death of it. I just want petrol!

Someone did this to me recently at a 'pay at the pump' pump :mad: It was quite busy and I queued behind them patiently as they used the pay at the pump facility and then they went into the shop. I thought that's strange didn't they already pay? came out 5 minutes later with a 99!!!!!!! Grrrr. The rudeness of some people.

OldMrBrennan83

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doolox

This happens frequently enough so that I avoid buying fuel at busy times. Too many characters buying lotto tickets, ice cream, etc holding up the queue instead of paying for petrol/diesel.

I am luck that I now have a 60 litre diesel tank in my newly acquired VW estate so can fill up less frequently than before.

If someone goes shopping, manoeuvre your car in front of theirs, and then abandon it and go for a wander around the shop yourself. Be sure to land back some time after them, preferably when they've finally decided to reverse and find a new way to exit the forecourt. Make sure they see you. If they get out, just point to the CCTV cameras. You need to be in no great hurry yourself mind...

gramar

The fcuking GAA OP...large swards of open land around Dublin lying idle most of the day so those savages can go and bate the ****e out of each other while chasing after a ball. I mean ffs, how many houses could you fit on a GAA pitch? Fcuk it, you'd even have room for a petoril station and a Luas stop.

Stephen15

I don't why it's it's nessecary to have a large shop in a petrol stations unless it's a motorway services site. On the continent there are plenty of garages that dontupdate have shops and only use small areas. In fact in italy it seems like the norm to have small kerbside pumps with attendant service who fill up your car which creates a much quicker transaction than sitting in your car waiting for some idiot to fill up and then take an hour in the shop while he's getting a deli sambo. My local petrol station is good as it only has a small shop which people wouldn't tend to spend to much time in and friendly staff. I don't see the problem with shops in petrol stations generallyou I don't mind the that sell the basics like cigarettes, chocolate and newspapers but the ones that have supermarkets in them are real pain in the arse if you're like me and only buy petrol.

maudgonner

Stephen15 wrote: »

I don't why it's it's nessecary to have a large shop in a petrol stations unless it's a motorway services site.

I've heard (but I can't say how true it is) that their margin on fuel is quite low and they make far more money from the convenience stores attached.

So if having that large shop keeps the price of petrol & diesel down, then it's good news for me.

FizzleSticks

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Stephen15

maudgonner wrote: »

I've heard (but I can't say how true it is) that their margin on fuel is quite low and they make far more money from the convenience stores attached.

So if having that large shop keeps the price of petrol & diesel down, then it's good news for me.

True as fuel ireland seems to have cheap petrol compared to other countries. I do believe that petrol should be heavily taxed so public transport fares can be subsidised but that's a debate for another day.

fleet_admiral

The garage in Harolds Cross is tiny bit id say its one of the busiest in the city (its fairly close to the CC as well), especially with taxi driver given how cheap it is