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200MB Virgin Broadband but torrents are downloading at 8 KiB/S

  • 25-05-2016 11:30am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭


    Before anyone makes an assumption I'm not doing anything illegal or downloading any illegal content, ok?

    I have confirmed 200mb (average 170mb) download speed from Virgin but no matter what content I try to download via qBittorrent I'm only able to achieve +/- 8 KiB/S which is pathetic.

    Any suggestions as to whether this is a hardware/software or network (Virgin!!) problem?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭54and56


    ^^^ Mods, please feel free to delete. I found a thread discussing the technical challenges of getting torrents working.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭degsie


    Try d/l a Ubuntu distro via bittorrent here and see what speeds you get. You know that the more seeds you have the better the download speed, right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭54and56


    degsie wrote: »
    Try d/l a Ubuntu distro via bittorrent here and see what speeds you get. You know that the more seeds you have the better the download speed, right?

    Thanks Degsie.

    I do know the higher the number of seeders the faster/better will be the download. A recent file I tried downloading had 50 seeders and only 10 leechers but 8 KiB/S was still the max I was getting and that was over an extended period of 6 hours.

    I just tried downloading the Ubuntu distro as you suggested and it's scraping along at less than 4 KiB/S

    See

    11158w7.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Going by that sceenshot you have the upload and download speed limits set to 10KiB/s (figure between []'s) :)

    Plus there's a newer version 3.3.4 out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭54and56


    Alun wrote: »
    Going by that sceenshot you have the upload and download speed limits set to 10KiB/s (figure between []'s) :)
    Well that's embarassing. Don't recall setting any speed limits in the app. Will go through the settings and remove those and any other constraints that might be in there.

    Thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    wally79 wrote: »
    I think the file you are downloading may contradict your first post

    Quick, lock him up and throw away the key....

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,285 ✭✭✭bonzodog2


    You might be better off using a separate torrent for each episode. I think UPC used to do 'traffic shaping' which restricted torrent speed, not sure if still true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭54and56


    wally79 wrote: »
    I think the file you are downloading may contradict your first post :D

    Ah, it's only a test.

    No, it's a mis labelled file.

    No its........

    :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭FAILSAFE 00


    You wouldn't download a car..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭Cactusmania


    Sometimes, there are limits on the speed you can download from certain sites, regardless of how fast your own connection is.
    Dailymotion, for example, seems to cap around the 120kb/s mark for downloading.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    There's nothing wrong with that torrent, it downloaded at between 20 and 25MByte/s at the moment here on my Virgin 240Mbit/s connection. The Ubuntu ISO maxed out my connection too.

    What do you get when you do a Speedtest?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭AndersLimpar


    :o
    Sorry for going off but I posted this in the grilling thread and it may get lost there.


    You said you were happy with the Broil Master grill. Are you still happy?

    I'm in the same boat and had narrowed it down to the Weber Spirit E210 but after seeing your post I'm thinking about the Broil King Royal 320 instead. Same price as the Weber but has three burners and the reviews seem good for it. Would you still buy the same one or go back to the Weber? Are there many accessories available for the Broil King?

    Sorry again for going off topic!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭54and56


    Alun wrote: »
    There's nothing wrong with that torrent, it downloaded at between 20 and 25MByte/s at the moment here on my Virgin 240Mbit/s connection. The Ubuntu ISO maxed out my connection too.

    What do you get when you do a Speedtest?

    Hi Alun,

    I'm getting very good speeds, 150mb down and 20mb up.

    See this test which I just ran

    2i6gz6f.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭54and56


    Sorry for going off but I posted this in the grilling thread and it may get lost there.


    You said you were happy with the Broil Master grill. Are you still happy?

    I'm in the same boat and had narrowed it down to the Weber Spirit E210 but after seeing your post I'm thinking about the Broil King Royal 320 instead. Same price as the Weber but has three burners and the reviews seem good for it. Would you still buy the same one or go back to the Weber? Are there many accessories available for the Broil King?

    Sorry again for going off topic!!

    No worries Anders, I stopped following that thread as it had become very specialised and dominated by a few guys who seem obsessed with BBQ'ing. Imagine having three different types of BBQ's and spending 10 hours smoking meat etc. Not for me!!

    The short answer to your question is "Yes". It's a quality BBQ and I think much better value than the equivalent Weber. In fact I think it's better. I really like the way the Broil Kings have included an adapted floor under the BBQ specially to hold the Irish size (oversize) gas cylinders. Weber can't be ar$ed doing that so even though they have a cabinet for holding the gas cylinder it's too small and you end up with your cylinder sitting in the open air beside the BBQ and the storage space under the BBQ empty.

    Weber is a more respected premium brand but the Broil King is very well built, very well designed, looks the business and cooks very well.

    Can't really comment on the accessories as I haven't looked to buy any.

    Hope that helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    What are your connection and BitTorrent settings? Also what's your network setup router / modem wise?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    I'm guessing your hard drive is really really really sh1t/busy.

    Those spikes in the graph are a strong sign that the disk is thrashing, you're downloading loads, disk says "hey hold on, cant keep up", client backs off, disk catches up, rinse repeat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 772 ✭✭✭maki


    You see that little icon at the bottom of the window that looks like a speedometer? Click it.

    It's currently pointing to the left, which is intentionally limiting your speeds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,285 ✭✭✭bonzodog2


    Or try utorrent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    maki wrote: »
    You see that little icon at the bottom of the window that looks like a speedometer? Click it.

    It's currently pointing to the left, which is intentionally limiting your speeds.
    No it isn't, not necessarily. The arrow pointing to the left means it's using the Alternative Rate Limits, whatever they are. If those are disabled, i.e. unchecked, in the settings, then there are effectively no limits. If there were a limit set for these, it is displayed in square brackets next to the current d/l and u/l speeds.

    EDIT: I know it shows those limits in the original screenshot, but the OP said he'd disable all the speed limits, so in theory it shouldn't make any difference. It is entirely possible he's disabled only the global rate limit but kept the alternative one and not selected the global rate with the icon, I'll give you that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    bonzodog2 wrote: »
    Or try utorrent
    ...and get deluged in ads and other crap, not to mention all kinds of rubbish that gets installed along with it if you're not very careful.

    I recently switched from utorrent to qBittorrent myself, and it's like a breath of fresh air.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    Alun wrote: »
    ...and get deluged in ads and other crap, not to mention all kinds of rubbish that gets installed along with it if you're not very careful.

    I recently switched from utorrent to qBittorrent myself, and it's like a breath of fresh air.

    I use uTorrent myself and find it very good. I installed it using patch my pc which stopped any crapware being installed with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    I find qbittorrent every bit as good myself. It seems to manage disk writes much better than utorrent in my experience, even with multiple large torrents downloading simultaneously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    I'm using Deluge on Mac and Window's, nice little client....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭54and56


    ED E wrote: »
    I'm guessing your hard drive is really really really sh1t/busy.

    Those spikes in the graph are a strong sign that the disk is thrashing, you're downloading loads, disk says "hey hold on, cant keep up", client backs off, disk catches up, rinse repeat.

    I think you're right. I'm writing to a 128gb SD card in an i7 Win 10 laptop with a 128gb SSD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    I think you're right. I'm writing to a 128gb SD card in an i7 Win 10 laptop with a 128gb SSD.

    If its UHS1/2 or C10 it should manage it for a bit, but over long period the NAND will get pretty hot.

    uT has a "Disk Overloaded x%" dialog at the bottom, not sure if your client has an equivalent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    An easy way to find out then would be to set the download directory to the SSD temporarily and see if that solves the problem. Also double check that you haven't still got a download limit set by mistake.

    qBittorrent doesn't have a "disk overloaded" message on the status bar like uTorrent does, but using a conventional fast HDD, I used to get regular periods of intensive disk thrashing with uTorrent when downloading multiple large torrents, and don't get that with qBittorrent.

    Another thing that qBittorrent doesn't have unfortunately is a simple way to move completed torrent files to another directory when completed. That would have been a possible solution if the SD card does indeed turn out to be the problem, i.e. download to SSD and move to the SD card when complete.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭54and56


    Alun wrote: »
    An easy way to find out then would be to set the download directory to the SSD temporarily and see if that solves the problem. Also double check that you haven't still got a download limit set by mistake.

    Thanks Alun, I'll do that ref the SSD next time I'm D/L'ing something and see what impact if any it makes. I have definitely turned off all download limits, as far as I can tell anyway.

    See

    15nprw2.jpg

    BTW, is there an optimum port I should set? ATM the default port of 8999 is set.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    I use a random port and have UPNP enabled. You should probably also enable uTP protocol too.

    BTW if you do set the download location to your SSD, once the torrent is completed you can right click on it and select "set location..." and specify a location on your SD card to easily move the torrent and continue to seed it. Other clients have the ability to do this automatically for all torrents, but qBittorrent doesn't unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,742 ✭✭✭54and56


    Thanks Alun, I'll give that a go.


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