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Qs on these Aer lingus routes

  • 25-05-2016 8:57am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭


    Has Singapore been discontinued. There are no prices available but the destination is still listed.

    Are all flights to Abu Dhabi indirect. I checked on the website and they all seem to stop in Heathrow first.

    Thank you


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,280 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Aer Lingus never served Singapore or Abu Dhabi.

    They were just codeshares.

    Can I ask what exactly is the purpose of this database that you are apparently building?

    You're asking an awful lot of detailed questions about routes and ticketing - it seems to be way more than the average enthusiast or person interested in the area would ever be asking?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    And you seem to be building a data base from scratch, with no prior industry knowledge. Anyone with knowledge/experience of the industry would not have asked the questions above.
    I dont want to belittle your goal but it seems that you are making a lot of work for yourself for a less than clear outcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,368 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    I'd agree with Tenger, you seem absolutely clueless about the routes EI have ran.

    The only ever eastern route EI have operated is DXB, which ran back around 2006.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭rigmaroll


    lxflyer wrote:
    Aer Lingus never served Singapore or Abu Dhabi.

    lxflyer wrote:
    They were just codeshares.


    Why can Abu Dhabi be booked on the Aer lingus site and why would they continue to list Singapore.

    The Database is a Hobby.

    @carnacalla that comment says more about you than about me


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    rigmaroll wrote: »
    Why can Abu Dhabi be booked on the Aer lingus site and why would they continue to list Singapore.
    Because airlines sell journeys on other carriers to destinations they dont serve themselves.
    Thus you can book an "Aer lingus ticket" to AUH that actually travels on an Ethiad flight which is also an EI codeshare. Similarly on a DUB-LHR-SIN ticket on a BA flight with an EI codeshare flight number.
    All those EI flights from DUB/SNN are also BA and UA flights due to codeshare agreements in place between EI and the 2 other airlines.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,280 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    rigmaroll wrote: »
    Why can Abu Dhabi be booked on the Aer lingus site and why would they continue to list Singapore.

    The Database is a Hobby.

    @carnacalla that comment says more about you than about me

    With respect it sounds like you're biting more than you can chew.

    If you don't understand the basic principles of airline operations such as codeshares, you're going to make very heavy work for yourself.

    There are tons of destinations on airline websites that are served only by codeshares, either direct or indirect.

    As I told you on another thread, all of the destinations with scheduled flights from Dublin are listed here:
    https://www.dublinairport.com/docs/default-source/Flight-Timetables/dublin-airport-summer-timetable-2016.pdf?sfvrsn=2

    None of those are codeshares.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭rigmaroll


    Tenger wrote:
    Thus you can book an "Aer lingus ticket" to AUH that actually travels on an Ethiad flight which is also an EI codeshare.

    What is the benefit to the customer of booking with Aer Lingus to AUH and how does it benefit either Airline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,368 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    rigmaroll wrote: »
    Why can Abu Dhabi be booked on the Aer lingus site and why would they continue to list Singapore.

    The Database is a Hobby.

    @carnacalla that comment says more about you than about me

    As Tenger has stated, its a codeshare.
    Try an airline like United or Delta where you can't actually choose from a list of destinations, you'll learn about codeshares pretty quickly there!

    Also, have you seen Wikipedia? Vast majority of pages are up to date and accurate on European pages.

    What does that comment say about me? I didnt insult you, I just stated that you appear absolutely clueless to alot of principals of the airline business. I'm not exactly sure what your getting at with that comment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭rigmaroll


    lxflyer wrote:
    As I told you on another thread, all of the available scheduled flights are listed here:

    That link was very helpful to me. I have routes in the database from last winters schedule so I'm just trying to tidy things up.

    I am doing this with no prior experience but so what. I don't understand why some people on the forum feel the need to knock someone trying to do something.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    rigmaroll wrote: »
    What is the benefit to the customer of booking with Aer Lingus to AUH and how does it benefit either Airline.
    With all due respect, this is my last answer to what I feel is a fools errand;
    EI get a portion of the revenue for the ticket sold on the EY flight. EY get the rest of the revenue and they get a passenger who may not have thought to check the EY website themselves.

    The emergence of online search engines and sites such as skyscanner lessens the importance of codeshares. However it is a way for an airline to offer through tickets outside its own network and/or to gain pax from outside its own organic market.

    Good luck to you with your hobby.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,990 ✭✭✭squonk


    rigmaroll wrote: »
    Why can Abu Dhabi be booked on the Aer lingus site and why would they continue to list Singapore.

    The Database is a Hobby.

    @carnacalla that comment says more about you than about me

    If the Db is a hobby then surely it might be more worthwhile modelling a domain you understand? I'm not an airline person at all but I'm an IT guy and I come on here for info and my love of aviation. Unless you have the business knowledge to hand, modelling the data can be very difficult.


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