Hypothetical Hotel Industry Question

MurmanskRun

Hi, folks,

(I wasn't sure if this was better-suited to entreprunial; please feel free to move.)

In a series of very unfortunate events:

Exhibit A: A hotel in the arsehole of nowhere with no transport links.
Exhibit B: A world-weary traveller with over fifty nights stay during the last year. This stay was eight days long.
Exhibit C: A cockup by a prominent Europe/UK-based building society during a scheduled monthly transfer from a savings account (no debit/visa card on same) to an AIB Ireland current account that wasn't noticed by me until checkout failed.

The hotel, who I'm in long-standing good graces with, are insisting that the bill is paid today and refuse to extend accommodation despite availability tonight to cover the 24 hours it'll take to redo the SEPA transfer.

I'm at a loss at why the hotel manager is being so intractable. I'll sleep on the damn beach if I have to, though I've spent the last few hours asking friends if they could/would pay smallish amounts and I'll repay them tomorrow. He doesn't seem open to either as its not the fully amount. Surely something today is better than nothing until tomorrow?

Anyway, what options do the hotel have if I'm simply unable to pay until tomorrow or if I simply abscond (slowly) out of the jurisdiction (which would be a dick move altogether)?

TIA.

godtabh

What is hypothetical about this? No cash no stay seems to correct course of action

MurmanskRun

godtabh wrote: »

What is hypothetical about this? No cash no stay seems to correct course of action

Understood, godtabh, but on the other hand, what if they insist-insist on me settling the bill fully today? Which isn't going to happen.

Maybe a less convoluted question should have been, what happens when a guest absconds? Suppose it's moot in card pre-approval scenarios.

Update: the hypothetical duty manager and hypothetical reception manager had a stern word in their ears by the GM.

MarkAnthony

8.—(1) Subject to subsection (2), a person who, knowing that payment on the spot for any goods obtained or any service done is required or expected, dishonestly makes off without having paid as required or expected and with the intention of avoiding payment on the spot is guilty of an offence.

(2) Subsection (1) shall not apply where the supply of the goods or the doing of the service is contrary to law or where the service done is such that payment is not legally enforceable.

(3) Subject to subsections (5) and (6), any person may arrest without warrant anyone who is or whom he or she, with reasonable cause, suspects to be in the act of committing an offence under this section.

(4) Where a member of the Garda Síochána, with reasonable cause, suspects that an offence under this section has been committed, he or she may arrest without warrant any person whom the member, with reasonable cause, suspects to be guilty of the offence.

(5) An arrest other than by a member of the Garda Síochána may be effected by a person under subsection (3) only where the person, with reasonable cause, suspects that the person to be arrested by him or her would otherwise attempt to avoid, or is avoiding, arrest by a member of the Garda Síochána.

(6) A person who is arrested pursuant to this section by a person other than a member of the Garda Síochána shall be transferred by that person into the custody of the Garda Síochána as soon as practicable.

(7) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on conviction on indictment to a fine not exceeding £3,000 or imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years or both.

MurmanskRun

Cheers, MA, that's explain my, oh, let's say clenching, when I spotted the local Gardaí doing drive-bys during my morning constitutional!

Guess the key word in the opening paragraph is "intentional". It was certain not my intention to defraud; the only thing I'm guilty of (this time) is the wilful neglect of checking my internet banking.

L1011

MurmanskRun wrote: »

Update: the hypothetical duty manager and hypothetical reception manager had a stern word in their ears by the GM.

Having had similar happen many years ago with a notable, elderly hotel in the west of Ireland where I had Platinum status on their franchises loyalty scheme - much of it generated at that hotel - the GM authorised a late payment over the heads of the checkin staff. However, this is legal discussion rather than common sense discussion and they can diverge.

It was at checkin rather than checkout, though.

MurmanskRun

L1011 wrote: »

However, this is legal discussion rather than common sense discussion and they can diverge.

How I wish that was tongue in cheek Also, OT, is the recursive binary in your username intentional?

L1011 wrote: »

It was at checkin rather than checkout, though.

Extra paragraph in quote or caching?

Speedwell

MurmanskRun wrote: »

Also, OT, is the recursive binary in your username intentional?

I was under the impression it was a wide-body airliner.

L1011

MurmanskRun wrote: »

How I wish that was tongue in cheek Also, OT, is the recursive binary in your username intentional?

Not unless Lockheed did it as a joke in the 1960s

MurmanskRun wrote: »

Extra paragraph in quote or caching?

I probably saved an edit between you loading the page and hitting quote.

MarkAnthony

MurmanskRun wrote: »

Cheers, MA, that's explain my, oh, let's say clenching, when I spotted the local Gardaí doing drive-bys during my morning constitutional!

Guess the key word in the opening paragraph is "intentional". It was certain not my intention to defraud; the only thing I'm guilty of (this time) is the wilful neglect of checking my internet banking.

Intentional refers to in instant act. What you were planning would have been an intentional act, the background to it may not have been.