Carriage door won't close? There's a sheet for that!

daelight

Quite unbelievable... There isn't litigation culture in Japan btw..

http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201605120063.html

[font=Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif]East Japan Railway Co. (JR East) wasn t going to let something like an open door on a packed rush-hour train get in the way of punctuality.[/font]
[font=Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif]With the use of a sheet and a railway employee deployed to prevent passengers from falling through the stuck-open door, the troubled JR Yokosuka Line train ran from JR Hodogaya Station to the major hub of Yokohama Station on the morning of May 11.[/font]

Cookie_Monster

Proper order. Rather than pulling the entire train like would happen in Ireland or uk just do what's needed and get on with it..

Captain Chaos

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Proper order. Rather than pulling the entire train like would happen in Ireland or uk just do what's needed and get on with it..

I am regularly on at least one train a week with a defective door and they don't pull it from service. Granted it's locked closed and not open, a door stuck open on a train should be pulled alright as there are far too many hap hazzard people out there.

Wanderer78

Cookie_Monster wrote:

Proper order. Rather than pulling the entire train like would happen in Ireland or uk just do what's needed and get on with it..

So the punctuation of the service is more important than passenger safety!

Cookie_Monster

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Cookie_Monster wrote:

Proper order. Rather than pulling the entire train like would happen in Ireland or uk just do what's needed and get on with it..

So the punctuation of the service is more important than passenger safety!

There is a guy on the door dealing with passenger safety, why should that not be enough?

roundymac

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

There is a guy on the door dealing with passenger safety, why should that not be enough?

Because it's Ireland, people would be queing up to fall out the door.

Wanderer78

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

There is a guy on the door dealing with passenger safety, why should that not be enough?

hmmm speeding train with door wide open and a piece of material protecting its passengers, what could go wrong:eek:

galljga1

Wanderer78 wrote: »

So the punctuation of the service is more important than passenger safety!

Accurate punctuation is critical to determining the correct meaning of Japanese scripts.

tabbey

galljga1 wrote: »

Accurate punctuation is critical to determining the correct meaning of Japanese scripts.

Indeed, punctuation should be punctually corrected accurately in a timely manner

tabbey

roundymac wrote: »

Because it's Ireland, people would be queing up to fall out the door.

First time I was in Portugal, 1989, travelling from the Lisbon area to Faro, I walked along the side corridor of a compartment coach, after dark, and almost fell out the open, inward opening door at the end of the coach.
I think the lights were off, care and common sense was certainly needed.

Even then Ireland was litigious, populated by persons who would seek out any way of making a claim, but the Portuguese were just happy to have a train, to get home to their families.

Charles Babbage

roundymac wrote: »

Because it's Ireland, people would be queing up to fall out the door.

In Japan if you jump in front of a train and it is delayed, the railway bills your heirs for the cost of the delay.

Wanderer78

Charles Babbage wrote: »

In Japan if you jump in front of a train and it is delayed, the railway bills your heirs for the cost of the delay.

heard the suicide rate is very high in japan, and you d be wondering why!

Fred Swanson

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Slightly off-topic but it wasn't that long ago when Dublin Bus drivers would drive around with the door open on warm days. I remember it within the last 6 or 7 years anyway. The retrofitting of door brakes to the AVs put an end to it I believe.

Irish trains with automatic doors (so anything from Mark 3 or later) have a circuit that prevents the loco or railcar from taking power if any of the doors aren't fully closed. It presents a blue light in the cab. So they'd have no choice but to fail the train as it wouldn't be possible to move it.

Fred Swanson

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When the old commuter trains in the UK had the slam doors, it was common for people to open them before the train had completely stopped.
I can only imagine how many commuters fell out or got a face full of door because they were standing too close to the platform edge.

Del.Monte

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When the old commuter trains in the UK had the slam doors, it was common for people to open them before the train had completely stopped.
I can only imagine how many commuters fell out or got a face full of door because they were standing too close to the platform edge.

It was the same here and I never saw anybody hit.

Del.Monte

Del.Monte wrote: »

It was the same here and I never saw anybody hit.

True, I suppose people had common sense then.

Captain Chaos

Del.Monte wrote: »

It was the same here and I never saw anybody hit.

That was before smart phones, if there were slam doors today people would be getting doored left right and centre. Insurance costs would be even higher.

whisky_galore

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Was discussing this with someone in Croatia, if someone happened to fall over something on the street or otherwise injure themselves a judge over there would throw out the case, tell them to look where they're going and try not to be so stupid next time.

The legal system here tends to encourage litigation nonsense and abdication of personal responsibility.

tabbey

Del.Monte wrote: »

It was the same here and I never saw anybody hit.

Not just on commuter trains.

Remember crowded Sunday evening trains arriving Heuston, trains from Limerick full of people trying to get a seat from Lk Junction., not to mention GAA specials, mystery trains etc.

One time a Sunday afternoon train from Limerick was full of people with guitars, tents etc after a festival in Clare. Arriving at the junction, at least one guy climbed out the window, but of course it had stopped at that stage.

BeardySi

Del.Monte wrote: »

It was the same here and I never saw anybody hit.

The real reason for the yellow line?

Treadhead

Treadhead wrote: »

The real reason for the yellow line?

I think that the line was more to do with warning passengers that they're too close to the edge and at risk of being "sucked in" by the turbulence caused by a high speed train passing the station. Years ago (in the UK) the yellow lines were only on platforms that had passing express trains, all the other platforms were unmarked.

Carawaystick

I presume the people saying
ah sher it'd be grand aren't the same people appalled by a safety implications politician standing on a flooded line...

tabbey

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I think that the line was more to do with warning passengers that they're too close to the edge and at risk of being "sucked in" by the turbulence caused by a high speed train passing the station. Years ago (in the UK) the yellow lines were only on platforms that had passing express trains, all the other platforms were unmarked.

Not just any express trains, it started with HSTs running at 125 mph in 1976 or 77.
Express trains ran for years at 100 mph without yellow lines.

We now have yellow lines on terminal platforms where trains were down to 10 mph or less. In some cases, they are a trip hazard.

Fred Swanson

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