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Why do people pay more for a service/product?

  • 11-05-2016 4:38pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭


    Why do people pay more for a service or product?

    Prepay electricity is one. Prepay is minimum ~€130 more expensive annually than traditional payment methods. Prepay users keep insisting it's cheaper even when I point the inverse. Why spend an extra €130 for a service with no added benefit?

    Groceries is another. Generic products these days are as good if not better than the branded version. Whilst I acknowledge there is a taste factor - is it really worth the premium?
    Branded bottled water, aaarggh


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭thattequilagirl


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Why do people pay more for a service or product?

    Prepay electricity is one. Prepay is minimum ~€130 more expensive annually than traditional payment methods. Prepay users keep insisting it's cheaper even when I point the inverse. Why spend an extra €130 for a service with no added benefit?

    Groceries is another. Generic products these days are as good if not better than the branded version. Whilst I acknowledge there is a taste factor - is it really worth the premium?
    Branded bottled water, aaarggh

    Advertising, brand reputation, ego, discretionary income, customer service levels, quality etc all have a part to play.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭luftmensch


    Advertising, brand reputation, ego, discretionary income, customer service levels, quality etc all have a part to play.

    You forgot stupidity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭desbrook


    The answer to your question is it makes them feel better i.e. - by buying the branded or more exensive product it then symbolises the fact they can afford more. This reinforces their belief that they are superior. Simples !!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,404 ✭✭✭✭sKeith


    Apple lightning Charger cables. 25 euro. Apple 5W usb adapter 25 euro. So 50 euro to get spare charging equipment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭donegal.


    apple


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭thattequilagirl


    luftmensch wrote: »
    You forgot stupidity.

    It's stupid to pay more if two products are exactly the same, but that's rarely the case.

    Convenience is also a factor. Spar is way more expensive than Tesco but I'll pay it because it's just downstairs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    Because so many people are a marketing departments wet dream.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    luftmensch wrote: »
    You forgot stupidity.

    It's not stupid if you're paying a premium to get better service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭PM me nudes


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Why do people pay more for a service or product?


    Groceries is another. Generic products these days are as good if not better than the branded version. Whilst I acknowledge there is a taste factor - is it really worth the premium?
    Branded bottled water, aaarggh

    There's your answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭Shint0


    We Irish would rather pay more for something than haggle. Some cultures would laugh at you if you didn't haggle. Fool and their money etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    to tell the neighbours


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    Sometimes brands are not much better, sometimes they are a guarantee of quality.

    For cheaper items I wouldn't bother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭FionnK86


    Ahh nothing beats branded Coca Cola. Generally, branded products are popular for a reason. But as the market becomes more saturated with replicas or knock-offs there a bound to be a few products that are nicer and cheaper. For example, a new Michael Kors bag is quite well made, and usually comes with a warranty for return. But if you get a cheap Penney's one you're usually back buying another within the year. If you're lucky you might get a Penney's bag that lasts and you can be happy in the fact you've spent very little for a bag you like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    It's stupid to pay more if two products are exactly the same, but that's rarely the case.

    Convenience is also a factor. Spar is way more expensive than Tesco but I'll pay it because it's just downstairs.

    Lay off that tequila - spar is all the way across the road.:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    There's your answer.

    Only if the taste factor outweighs the price difference though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,734 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Isn't one selling point of pre-pay electricity that it raises awareness of electricity usage and can help you to cut down on usage?

    As for the rest, it's all a matter of taste and of course the people who pay more for certain items are sure that for that particular item, the premium is worth it.

    For me, instant coffee is one that really does depend on the brand, and some taste waaaaaay better than others. Others might think they all taste the same though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭PM me nudes


    maudgonner wrote: »
    Only if the taste factor outweighs the price difference though.

    Yes, I agree


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,591 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    It's not stupid if you're paying a premium to get better service.
    It's stupid if you aren't getting a better service.

    Far too many brands have cashed it.


    How many of these TV / Audio brands do you recognise ?

    Acoustic Solutions
    Akai
    Alba
    Anderson
    Atec
    Blaupunk
    Bush
    Celcus
    Cello
    Daewoo
    Digihome
    Digilogik
    Dual
    Durabrand
    Electra
    Emerson
    Feguson
    Finlux
    Goodmans
    Graetz
    Grundig
    Hisense
    Hitachi
    Horizon
    Isis
    Jmb
    Jvc
    Kendo
    lexsis
    Linsar
    Lodos
    Logik
    Luxor
    Matsui
    Medion
    Mikomi
    Mitsubishi
    Murphy
    Onn
    Orion
    Pacific
    Panasonic (low end models)
    Pentis
    Proton
    Phillips
    Polaroid
    Proline
    Qiivive
    Regal
    Sanyo
    Seg
    Seiki
    Selectline
    Servis
    Sharp
    Strong
    Teac
    Technika
    Technonsinic
    Techwood
    Teco
    Telefuncen
    Teletech
    Telsa
    Tevion
    Thomson
    Tiny
    Toshiba (Only make top range ones themselves)
    Universum
    Vestel
    Vestfrost
    Videoton
    Voxson
    Walker
    Waltham
    Watson
    Westwood
    Wharfdale
    Xenius
    Laurus
    Nordmende

    All rebadged Vestel or UMC at some point, and there are lots of other OEM's out there too.


    I still haven't forgiven Sony for trashing the Aiwa brand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭12Phase


    Prepay electricity I would have assumed is for people who have serious issues managing their finances or where landlords don't trust tenants with billed power.

    You can control your consumption by intermittently reading any meter!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭PLL


    It's just psychological pricing, people are willing to pay it because it gives a perception of its worth. E.g. More expensive dishwasher tablets will clean better.

    Marketers just exploit this product perception in people.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    maudgonner wrote: »
    Only if the taste factor outweighs the price difference though.

    As was proved on a recent Channel 4 documentary, stuff made for, say M&S and Lidl/Aldi in the same factory is not the same.

    The cheap stuff has tons of flavorings added to hide the fact that it would taste 5h1t otherwise as the basic ingredients are of a poor quality and hence cheaper.

    It should be on 4OD still.. Well worth a watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,765 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    prinzeugen wrote: »
    As was proved on a recent Channel 4 documentary, stuff made for, say M&S and Lidl/Aldi in the same factory is not the same.

    The cheap stuff has tons of flavorings added to hide the fact that it would taste 5h1t otherwise as the basic ingredients are of a poor quality and hence cheaper.

    It should be on 4OD still.. Well worth a watch.

    Well I know Dunnes crisps are the exact same as Tayto with one less flavoring. Used to work in Largo years back. I'd say the basic ingredients being poor quality is more in relation to bigger countries and companies and not as prevalent in Ireland, whereas here it's normally the same product minus one unnoticeable flavoring. Chef making Dunnes ketchup is another example. Effectively the exact same

    Generally I'd pay a premium for Sony products, but much of their buggy software on stuff like Sonicstage for the Walkman and their Vaio laptops let them down badly and cost them major market share in the 00's, compared to the more user friendly Apple. Although, they seem to have sorted that out so I'd once again go for Sony, as their prices are quite competitive (at least on par with their rivals), while generally being better in terms of specs. All you gotta do is compare a high end Xperia to the Galaxy or iPhone. Quite a big difference


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Sometimes, if you do your research as a consumer, the more expensive brand is also much better and the company has a much better customer service as well.


    Building my PC would be an example. The first one I built I bought a cheap case. It looked good and did the job perfectly well as far as I knew. The next time I was making a PC I spent something like 3 times on the new case as I did on the old case. The difference was pretty major. It was designed with the person putting in the parts in mind. No need to use screws, easy access to everything, easy to remove air filters and it's still in perfect condition today, ten years later.

    Another example is switching my mobile to Eircom (Eir), the monthly cost were cheaper but their customer service is non existant. I was handed a broken phone on day one and nearly 18 months I still haven't gotten any satisfactory support. My entire time spent with the company my "smart phone" has been no better than a pager from the 90s.

    Guarantees and standards are another thing you could be paying for. Which all seem like overkill until the product breaks and you need support or end up injured.

    I avoid cheap stuff now, the problem is there's a lot of cheap stuff masquerading as high end these days. At this stage it's hard to trust any brand. Sony used to mean quality, I wouldn't rate it at all anymore. But it's very easy to research things these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭Minderbinder


    Shint0 wrote: »
    We Irish would rather pay more for something than haggle. Some cultures would laugh at you if you didn't haggle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭Raging_Ninja


    Some items are desired simply because they are expensive. These are called Veblen goods in economics, the more expensive they are, the higher demand is for them as status symbols.

    An example would be Rolex watches or lamborghinis.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    Convenience. I'll pay more for a pint of milk in the shop across the road before driving 10 minutes to Aldi or Lidl for a cheaper one.

    But when it comes to clothes or shoes I'm a notorious bargain hunter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Prepay electricity is one. Prepay is minimum ~€130 more expensive annually than traditional payment methods. Prepay users keep insisting it's cheaper even when I point the inverse. Why spend an extra €130 for a service with no added benefit?

    I'm still yet to see the downside of this. I got a meter installed when I had planned on renting out my house. In the end I decided against renting it out but I kept the meter there in case I did it in future. It costs €20 a week which works out around €35 cheaper than my previous bi monthly bill. I could probably make if cost €15 a week if I worked on conservation more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Some items are desired simply because they are expensive. These are called Veblen goods in economics, the more expensive they are, the higher demand is for them as status symbols.

    An example would be Rolex watches or lamborghinis.
    That's not really true though. A Rolex or Lamborgini also costs a lot more to manufacture. It's not like your average Lamborghini costs the same to manufacture as your average Ford. Rolex watches are often personalised so while the mechanics of the watch may be made on a production line, the assembly is probably done by hand, which makes it expensive.

    The production runs are also a fraction of your average consumer product. ford would probably sell more Mondeos a month than Lamborgini would sell over the lifetime of the model. That's not just down to demand, The Lambo takes longer, is made from more time consuming parts (carbon fiber tubs), probably needs more calibration, the list of why a Lambo is more expensive is extensive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,511 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Prepay electricity is one. Prepay is minimum ~€130 more expensive annually than traditional payment methods. Prepay users keep insisting it's cheaper even when I point the inverse. Why spend an extra €130 for a service with no added benefit?

    It may not be cheaper but they may end up spending less due to awareness / budgeting etc.

    It's similar to mobile phone top up vs bill pay.

    Monthly billing and post payment take the pain out of payment and consumption generally rises as a result.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭duffman3833


    the one things that i just cant understand is when people buy is branded toilet roll. Why spend more to wipe your rear. baffles me tbh


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    snubbleste wrote: »
    Why do people pay more for a service or product?

    There are whole textbooks on the psychology of why people - and how to get people - to pay more for an alternative that is in nearly every way identical. From Brand Familiarity - to ego stroking - to Brand Confidence and much much more.

    There is a lot of manipulation in the advertising and marketing world and we are really amenable to it.

    I remember a Derren Brown sketch where he asked some advertising guys to design a poster for his pretend new product. And he "predicted" pretty much exactly what they would produce. Mainly by using their own tactics and manipulating them in the week leading up to their producing the poster.

    But that said - depending on the product and the person - there are _sometimes_ genuine reasons to pay more. Where products can be shown to be more ethically produced or sourced for example - I would pay more. Where I have read the ingredients and seen that the cheaper product uses a cheaper substitute - I would pay more.

    But If I was buying baked beans or dried pasta off the shelf however - I would probably just grab the cheapest one there and not fall for the years of marketing that Heinz have used to make me feel a homely and safe fuzzy feeling every time I see their logo so as to make me reach for their jar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,641 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    the one things that i just cant understand is when people buy is branded toilet roll. Why spend more to wipe your rear. baffles me tbh

    cos the cheap stuff is like using sandpaper.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,591 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    ScumLord wrote: »
    the problem is there's a lot of cheap stuff masquerading as high end these days. At this stage it's hard to trust any brand. Sony used to mean quality, I wouldn't rate it at all anymore. But it's very easy to research things these days.
    Petty much spot on.

    Too many brands have sold out.

    Whole industries have been hit in the race to the bottom. Once upon a time
    A scientist steals a secret formula for an electrical product from his Japanese employer and takes it to China. Then it is stolen again and turns up in Taiwan. But something goes wrong - and thousands, perhaps millions, of computers and electrical goods in the West begin to burn out or explode.

    It cost alone Dell $420 Million dollars. And HP, Apple , and pretty much all the low end monitors and TV's and power supplies from late 90's are likely to be affected.

    The big issue is that the affected companies didn't pick up this in quality control, then tried to hide it and then allowed it continue for far too long. This issue should have been fixed in 2002 when it was public knowledge but they continued to use the faulty parts for years and years.

    Sony had a TV recall a few years back.

    Look at motor cars. Tens of millions of vehicle recalls for safety reasons , air bags, tyres. Look at how many cheated on emissions tests.

    Then there is the whole security question. Smart TV's and Smart cars generally don't have any security worth talking about.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    smash wrote: »
    I'm still yet to see the downside of this. I got a meter installed when I had planned on renting out my house. In the end I decided against renting it out but I kept the meter there in case I did it in future. It costs €20 a week which works out around €35 cheaper than my previous bi monthly bill. I could probably make if cost €15 a week if I worked on conservation more.
    :confused:
    Do a comparison http://www.bonkers.ie/compare-gas-electricity-prices/electricity/


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,591 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Convenience. I'll pay more for a pint of milk in the shop across the road before driving 10 minutes to Aldi or Lidl for a cheaper one.
    10 minutes each way adds up to over €3 at the minimum wage not counting fuel costs ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Groceries is another. Generic products these days are as good if not better than the branded version. Whilst I acknowledge there is a taste factor - is it really worth the premium?
    Branded bottled water, aaarggh

    I buy low fat yoghurt on special that are branded because the non-branded ones are usually ****e + less variety. Ditto soups. Same with shampoos, shower gel, razers, washin up liquid, cordial.

    Generic deodorant, shaving foam, sweetcorn, microwaveable rice, pasta, pasta sauce, hand wash, juices are decent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I think the problem with mass produced products is about to be turned on it's head by new automation technologies and the likes of like 3D printing.

    When you do get your hands on quality products the difference is obvious. The longer you spend with a quality product the more you appreciate them too. There is a growing small scale industry for all sorts of things were people have got sick of the mainstream crap and are willing to pay big money for something that is excellent quality and long lasting. It's a bit niche at the moment but the likes of cheaper CNC machines have allowed a lot of people to open up a small manufacturing business with enough clients to keep it ticking over. Some of them burst through into the mainstream and almost instantly lose their way.

    I think we'll see more of these types of businesses popping up in the future seeing the latest round of 3D printers. What they're capable of is nuts. Look at this thing.



    I think in 20 years time we could have a market poluted with one off products made slightly more expensive than mass produced stuff. It could force a rapid change in the scale of manufacturing businesses.


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