Ruger 10/22

john jameson

Hi all I recently received the renewal for my cz455 .22 lux witch iv had new for past 3 years and I was thinking of changing to a ruger 10/22
What's the opinion of shooters on these ruger s

Grizzly 45

Ruger 10/22 is a "Barbie gun":) IOW you can dress it up in all sorts of outfits for doing anything you want,and you can spend as little or as much on it as you want to do this.Gun will do everything from bunny shooting to being made into a match tack drtriver costing 10 times more than the original guns purchase price.
Cheapish,ultra reliable and aftermarket bits aplenty...Go for it!:)

Deaf git

It depends on what you want to do with your .22.
I'd guess the cz out of the box will be a good deal more accurate than the 10/22. So for rabbit shooting the cz is probably best. For most .22 target shooting the cz will be better except for gallery rifle.
The 10/22 can be modified till the dogs come home- stock, receiver, bolt, trigger- everything you can imagine.
The cz455 can have the trigger mod for about €20. I believe aftermarket barrels too, Lilja make one. Stocks also.
At the risk of insulting 10/22 fans the standard of engineering by cz seems to be a lot better out of the box.
The 10/22 is a great 'fun' gun all the same.

Chiparus

I am in the same boat.
Really like the look of the heavy barrel takedown myself.

http://www.ruger.com/products/1022Takedown/specSheets/21133.html

FISMA.

john jameson wrote: »

What's the opinion of shooters on these ruger s

10/22 all the way. I have a few 10/22's.:rolleyes: Everything from a $100 beater to a +€1000 Kidd. Both far outperform their price.

Deaf git

I saw on youtube that Ruger have released an aftermarket trigger for the 10/22 called the 'BX Trigger' for about $70. Maybe not quite a Kidd but supposed to be ok.
Wonder why they don't just fit them as standard?

FISMA.

Deaf git wrote: »

I saw on youtube that Ruger have released an aftermarket trigger for the 10/22 called the 'BX Trigger' for about $70. Maybe not quite a Kidd but supposed to be ok.

No, stay away from it. I tried one at a local dealer and was thoroughly un-impressed. If funds are tight, get a Kidd trigger fix at $105.

Deaf git wrote: »

Wonder why they don't just fit them as standard?

Fair question and I have wondered that myself.

In fairness to Ruger, since Ireland's favourite son, O'Bama's been in office, the dollar has lost 40% of its value, yet Ruger is still able to offer the 10/22 at a retail price starting at €185.

VBull

As above its all depends on what you want to do with it. Targets or field or a mixture of both.

The ruger has a LOT of upgrades compared to the cz 455 and more internal parts but since cz introduced the 455 more aftermarket upgrades are becoming available which i believe is due to the 455 been a switch barrel rifle like the ruger. Lilja even do a match grade barrel for the cz

Deaf git wrote: »

I saw on youtube that Ruger have released an aftermarket trigger for the 10/22 called the 'BX Trigger' for about $70. Maybe not quite a Kidd but supposed to be ok.
Wonder why they don't just fit them as standard?

Maybe they will offer a new package with the upgraded trigger whilst still offering the original trigger rifle.

PSXDupe

Keep the CZ455 and buy a 10/22 also.

My first rifle was a CZ455 .22 Varmint, lovely rifle, very accurate. I liked it so much I got the .17HMR Varmint, cracker rifle also.

Later in the year I'll probably pick up a 10/22 as I want to try out Gallery Rifle.

German pointer

I use the 10/22 tactical for bunnies and targets and have great fun with it. Have brought it out to over 400 yards on targets with quite surprising good results. Great reliable firearm and I don't feel under gunned next to the cz on the range.

Deaf git

PSXDupe wrote: »

Keep the CZ455 and buy a 10/22 also.

My first rifle was a CZ455 .22 Varmint, lovely rifle, very accurate. I liked it so much I got the .17HMR Varmint, cracker rifle also.

Later in the year I'll probably pick up a 10/22 as I want to try out Gallery Rifle.

Best suggestion of the lot. Keep the cz and buy the Ruger. If you want to move on to something else at a later time either gun would be accepted as a trade-in by most dealers.

ligertigon

I have a 10/22 take down. My previous BSA air rifle blew it away in terms of accuracy. One essential upgrade is to add a volquartsen hammer, so the trigger pull is reduced to a level that doesn't impeed accuracy, as the factory trigger pull is about 9lbs..:eek:
Also they don't cycle reliably all the time with sub sonics.

Bogwoppit

ligertigon wrote: »

I have a 10/22 take down. My previous BSA air rifle blew it away in terms of accuracy. One essential upgrade is to add a volquartsen hammer, so the trigger pull is reduced to a level that doesn't impeed accuracy, as the factory trigger pull is about 9lbs..:eek:
Also they don't cycle reliably all the time with sub sonics.

Kidd trigger kit (not the full trigger) and cci subs in mine make it pretty accurate with 100% cycling.

ligertigon

Bogwoppit wrote: »

Kidd trigger kit (not the full trigger) and cci subs in mine make it pretty accurate with 100% cycling.

My hammer was $35 from the US, massive difference.. I'm guessing the kidd cost you a bit more?
Can't see how the trigger kit can make it cycle better?? I usually get 4 or 5 out of 50 cci's subs that don't cycle. Could easily be batch related I suppose

hermes2011

have CZ and 10/22 never get rid of the CZ. 10/22 is more of a fun gun for plinking but if ya thinking of competition standard you would have to upgrade everything the only left would be the serial number

hermes2011

has anyone used a takedown 10/22 they look the part are they as good as the regular one? I would be afraid it would wear down from taking it down all the time.

Bogwoppit

ligertigon wrote: »

My hammer was $35 from the US, massive difference.. I'm guessing the kidd cost you a bit more?
Can't see how the trigger kit can make it cycle better?? I usually get 4 or 5 out of 50 cci's subs that don't cycle. Could easily be batch related I suppose

The Kidd kit was about €100 over here, brings the trigger pull down to a nice level for accurate hunting, nothing to do with the cycling.

I've tried a few different brands but I've yet to have a cci sub fail to cycle unlike every other brand.
I've also polished all the moving parts to a shine which helps too.

The 10/22 is great if you fancy tinkering and improving the gun yourself, lots to play with.

German pointer

ligertigon wrote:

Also they don't cycle reliably all the time with sub sonics.

Only 2 sub's failed to cycle properly in my one Winchester T22 and an Ely target. Can't remember if it was the sport or club round

cavan shooter

If your looking for a fun gun for rabbits plinking and target (..for the craic) you will not beat it. You can spend a fortune on turning it into a tack driver to compete with CZ/anschutz etc. But for the shear fun of being able to hit a steel plate at 150 yards 10 shots....as fast as you can pull the trigger....you will not beat the ruger 10/22.

FISMA.

Bogwoppit wrote: »

The Kidd kit was about €100 over here

Where can you get the trigger kit for €100? I want to test the Kidd kit vs a full Kidd SS and a Timney.

Right now, the trigger sells for $105 in the States. +$5 to have it shipped to an American address = $110 = €97. Anyone getting them in Eire for a spot of €3, please advise.

Not sure if I asked already, but how do you like the kit: (1) overall and (2) compared to another (Kidd, Timney, Volts, Power Custom, ...)

Wadi14

As trigger kits go the Kidd is the best IMO light clean break with very short reset, Now I would prefer the SS trigger but over twice the price, the kit cost me €120 . I replaced a Volq hammer and sear with the kidd trigger kit, way better.

Bogwoppit

FISMA. wrote: »

Where can you get the trigger kit for €100? I want to test the Kidd kit vs a full Kidd SS and a Timney.

Right now, the trigger sells for $105 in the States. +$5 to have it shipped to an American address = $110 = €97. Anyone getting them in Eire for a spot of €3, please advise.

Not sure if I asked already, but how do you like the kit: (1) overall and (2) compared to another (Kidd, Timney, Volts, Power Custom, ...)

I got mine from Harbour Guns, it might have been €120 but I can't remember exactly as it was a while ago.

FISMA.

Bogwoppit wrote: »

I got mine from Harbour Guns, it might have been €120 but I can't remember exactly as it was a while ago.

Could have been €100 when the dollar was weaker.

In any case, thanks.

Will have to do the review this summer.

Bogwoppit

FISMA. wrote: »

Could have been €100 when the dollar was weaker.

In any case, thanks.

Will have to do the review this summer.

I havent really much to compare it to myself, the factory trigger was brutal so doesn't warrant comparison.

I had a go of a full Kidd trigger a few months before I bought my own 10/22 but can't compare because of the time between.

The trigger kit is plenty good enough to improve accuracy on a hunting rifle. Is it good enough for gallery? I don't know but it's probably good enough to get you started without wanting to shell out on the full job.

hermes2011

it depends how high a level you want to compete at

goz83

Are these kits also suitable for the 77/22?

FISMA.

goz83 wrote: »

Are these kits also suitable for the 77/22?

Unfortunately, not. Totally different setup.

To the OP or anyone else interested in triggers, here's an article on 9 of the best options available for the 10/22.

cw67irl

The trigger kit is currently for sale at €185 here

Bogwoppit

cw67irl wrote: »

The trigger kit is currently for sale at €185 here

That's a lot for the kit, how much for the full Kidd trigger?

cw67irl

Bogwoppit wrote: »

That's a lot for the kit, how much for the full Kidd trigger?

Going by their site 340 for single stage and 380 for a 2 stage

FISMA.

cw67irl wrote: »

Going by their site 340 for single stage and 380 for a 2 stage

Any idea what the Ruger BX trigger is going for in Eire?

I tried one in a shop in the States and was thoroughly unimpressed.

The Kidd trigger kit was a quantum leap over the aftermarket Ruger BX trigger.

Deaf git

I haven't seen a BX trigger on the shelf here as yet. The BX banana mags seem commonplace but not so with the triggers. A friend got one in from Brownells and while it isn't exactly outstanding it has transformed his bog standard carbine. With R50 it groups 30-35 mm at 50m and is good enough for our Bullseye matches. The pull is around 2 1/2lb guestimated.