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Tomb Raider (Reboot)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Walton Goggins to play the bad guy.

    Count me in on this one now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,628 ✭✭✭brevity


    Alicia Vikander has been cast as Lara Croft in the reboot of Tomb Raider. Roar Uthaug is directing. Expected to film later this year.

    http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/alicia-vikander-is-lara-croft-in-tomb-raider-20160428?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Roar Uthaug?

    Wasn't he an Ork in Lord of the Rings?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Walton Goggins to play the bad guy.

    Count me in on this one now.

    Like yourself, that actually got my intention and curiousity in this production now; Goggins is a fantastic character actor, underappreciated by and large, and his performance as Boyd Crowder in Justified is arguably up there with Bryan Cranston as one of the greats of TV in the modern age.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Frank O. Pinion


    Walter Goggins is a cartoon of an actor. I enjoy watching him in a humorous way, but I do not take him seriously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,622 ✭✭✭blue note


    There's two things I remember about tomb raider as a kid and I don't think Alicia vikander's really not them. Not sure about the casting choice for that reason really.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Walter Goggins is a cartoon of an actor. I enjoy watching him in a humorous way, but I do not take him seriously.

    He plays a lot of over the top characters for sure, but his turn in Justified would do a lot to dispel that notion that he can't play stronger, more serious characters. If anything, it made good use of Goggins' slightly wild-eyed, crazy haired demeanour, making Boyd Crowder seem both highly dangerous yet charismatic at the same time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭B_Wayne


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Like yourself, that actually got my intention and curiousity in this production now; Goggins is a fantastic character actor, underappreciated by and large, and his performance as Boyd Crowder in Justified is arguably up there with Bryan Cranston as one of the greats of TV in the modern age.
    pixelburp wrote: »
    He plays a lot of over the top characters for sure, but his turn in Justified would do a lot to dispel that notion that he can't play stronger, more serious characters. If anything, it made good use of Goggins' slightly wild-eyed, crazy haired demeanour, making Boyd Crowder seem both highly dangerous yet charismatic at the same time.

    I thought his The Shield performance was superb as well. From trusted friend to psychopath.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    blue note wrote: »
    There's two things I remember about tomb raider as a kid and I don't think Alicia vikander's really not them. Not sure about the casting choice for that reason really.

    Cos her tits aren't big enough?

    On the plus side she is a ****ing fantastic actress who will be more than capable of playing this part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,622 ✭✭✭blue note


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Cos her tits aren't big enough?

    On the plus side she is a ****ing fantastic actress who will be more than capable of playing this part.

    Exactly. It's literally the only notable thing about the character from the computer game. It's like casting Cillian Murphy for a character who's supposed to be really muscular. Or Tom Cruise for Jack Reacher.....

    She'll probably be better than Megan Fox or whoever they could have gotten who'd have the physical side of it, but to be honest I'd rather they cast Megan Fox for a role like this and leave Alicia Vikander do better movies basically. I'd have very low expectations for a Tomb Raider reboot.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    I'm sure there's plenty of websites where you can get your fix of boobs. F**k sake, some things never change.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Like yourself, that actually got my intention and curiousity in this production now; Goggins is a fantastic character actor, underappreciated by and large, and his performance as Boyd Crowder in Justified is arguably up there with Bryan Cranston as one of the greats of TV in the modern age.

    He was great in The Shield too.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    blue note wrote: »
    There's two things I remember about tomb raider as a kid and I don't think Alicia vikander's really not them. Not sure about the casting choice for that reason really.

    You know that there are still new games being made, right? And that, after the outright ridiculousness of her appearance in the first few games (reportedly down to one developer deciding that the character would be improved by improbably large & gravity-defying boobs), her appearance has been tweaked to be more in line with what actual women look like?

    It's a film adapting a videogame property so it could turn out badly anyway (though the most recent games have put effort into the narrative and gained plenty of praise, so there's a basis for cautious optiimism), but even by those standards "but the actress doesnt have the impossible physique the character had in the games 20 years ago" seems a pretty stupid basis on which to comment on the casting.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    It's the era of the internet; you want tits, ass, dong, fur or whatever you prefer, go use Google. Sex or titillation has never been more readily accessible, and in a higher quality than a fleeting shot of boobs from some 80s slasher b-movie.

    The notion of Hollywood films still using sex appeal to lure in punters is practically quaint in this day & age, and probably why you don't really see it anymore. And frankly the mid 90s obsession of that low-poly, 2D version of Lara Croft was a high/low watermark in gaming being the domain of horndog teenagers or man-children. It says a lot that the modern form of Croft actually resembles a real human being with a semblance of character, while at the same time maintaining some degree of attractiveness without falling into the ideals of a 12 year old boy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    pixelburp wrote: »
    It's the era of the internet; you want tits, ass, dong, fur or whatever you prefer, go use Google. Sex or titillation has never been more readily accessible, and in a higher quality than a fleeting shot of boobs from some 80s slasher b-movie.

    The notion of Hollywood films still using sex appeal to lure in punters is practically quaint in this day & age, and probably why you don't really see it anymore.
    And frankly the mid 90s obsession of that low-poly, 2D version of Lara Croft was a high/low watermark in gaming being the domain of horndog teenagers or man-children. It says a lot that the modern form of Croft actually resembles a real human being with a semblance of character, while at the same time maintaining some degree of attractiveness without falling into the ideals of a 12 year old boy.

    Now tell that to DC/WB who basically made all advertising around Suicide Squad about Harley Quinn and Margot Robbie's sexuality.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Now tell that to DC/WB who basically made all advertising around Suicide Squad about Harley Quinn and Margot Robbie's sexuality.

    Yes, unfortunately it's still pretty prevalent, the only thing is people are noticing it more. It obviously still works though or they would stop doing it.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Now tell that to DC/WB who basically made all advertising around Suicide Squad about Harley Quinn and Margot Robbie's sexuality.

    Yeah, that was kinda bizarre really, but WB seem to be operating within their own little world, and I'd argue that it's a broadly declining trend. Hollywood are slowly waking up to the notion that actually, young women like blockbusters & adventure too & maybe they want to play with Avengers toys etc. Slowly, very slowly mind you.

    I mean when you look back, particularly at the 80s and the explosion of straight-to-VHS B movies, there was a pretty straightforward policy to throw in some illicit T&A to get some extra publicity / attention when the actual script/budget/actors weren't up to snuff. It was the heyday for overblown violence mixed with some pneumatic blonds adorning the VHS cover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,019 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Walton Goggins to play the bad guy.

    Count me in on this one now.

    If anyone seen him in SOA then he could play Lara :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Alicia looks the part.... (click through for bigger versions of the pics)

    https://twitter.com/AliciaVikanderD/status/828650723797766144


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭Gamb!t


    Id have preferred Gal Gadot myself :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    Her bust size doesn't bother me, I just think she's an awful actor. She was seriously poor in a Man from UNCLE. Her tough guy imprersonation and the voice she put on in Bourne was laughable. She was marginally better in Ex Machina but thats a role that any actor would kill for.

    Maybe I'll be surprised. But I doubt it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Can't be any worse than Angelina.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Optimalprimerib


    I don't rate her that highly really. She comes across very bleak and dull in everything I have seen her in. Similar to Jennifer Lawrence as catniss Everdeen, god forbid she shows some personality.

    You'd never know though.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    She definitely looks the part. They seem to be drawing on the video game’s Descent-inspired reboot, which is fine by me,

    She’s a good actor, especially in lead roles. She was excellent in Testament of Youth and A Royal Affair. And while The Danish Girl wasn’t a good movie, she was very good in it. But her supporting roles have been hit or miss. I thought she was miscast in The Man from UNCLE. And everyone was terrible in Jason Bourne so I wouldn’t hold that against her. She’s also been shortchanged even in some of the better ones by directors more interested in their male lead. Oceans, for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭Skerries




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I watched Uthaug's Escape over the weekend. It stars Ingrid Bolso Berdal from Westworld. It's quite good if rather bloodless. I can see why he was picked for Tomb Raider.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    Official poster;

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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Weird neck.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    Weird neck.

    The light/shadow for her chin gives her neck a weird elongated look all right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Looks like she has gills.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    Weird neck.
    me_irl wrote: »
    The light/shadow for her chin gives her neck a weird elongated look all right.
    Looks like she has gills.

    screenshot_17.png
    What appears to have happened here is that the designers for this poster wanted to use an image of Vikander confidently facing out into a perilous ocean, but when taking the photos of her doing so realized that its viewers wouldn't be able to adequately see her face. As a result, they Photoshopped her face to swivel around a bit, and now we're left with this monstrosity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    The trailer trailer. :)
    Full one out tomorrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Well.. her neck looks ok in the sneak peak.

    Guh though, that poster makes my throat feel wierd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,693 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    Guess it's hard to gauge on that trailer but it kind of looks like a run of the mill action tv series more than a high budget Hollywood film


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,896 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Can't be any worse than some of the Resident evil offerings.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    There'll be a lot of pressure on Tomb Raider off the back of Wonder Woman's success. Completely unfair pressure but it'll be there non the less.

    At least if compared to previous Tomb Raider films it's a pretty low bar.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,530 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    There'll be a lot of pressure on Tomb Raider off the back of Wonder Woman's success. Completely unfair pressure but it'll be there non the less.

    Not to mention getting over the hurdle of being the first ever game adaptation that isn't rubbish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,896 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Not to mention getting over the hurdle of being the first ever game adaptation that isn't rubbish.
    Well Uwe Boll is retired from directing these days.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Not to mention getting over the hurdle of being the first ever game adaptation that isn't rubbish.

    Hasn't been a decent video game adaptation since Super Mario Brothers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,217 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    There'll be a lot of pressure on Tomb Raider off the back of Wonder Woman's success. Completely unfair pressure but it'll be there non the less.

    At least if compared to previous Tomb Raider films it's a pretty low bar.

    That's a very good point. If it's a dud and doesn't perform fantastically people will immediately write off WW as a blip and assume that people don't want to see female hero movies which is incorrect: People don't want to see BAD female hero movies.

    WW was good fun and exciting (especially in comparison to the rest of the modern DC movies). I'm looking forward to the next WW movie..... But still unsure of Justice League. That seems more of the DC same.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    That's a very good point. If it's a dud and doesn't perform fantastically people will immediately write off WW as a blip and assume that people don't want to see female hero movies which is incorrect: People don't want to see BAD female hero movies.

    WW was good fun and exciting (especially in comparison to the rest of the modern DC movies). I'm looking forward to the next WW movie..... But still unsure of Justice League. That seems more of the DC same.

    The problem is that you'd struggle to think of any other proper female lead action films so the comparisons are inevitable. There are so many male led action films every year that they live and die off their own merit.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I was under the impression the conversation was more about whether this might finally be a game adaptation that doesn't suck, than about the success or otherwise of female-led action films. Outside of the game industry itself, Lara Croft is yesterday's woman in many respects, I can't imagine there's that much cultural investment in this - so if anything it can only exceed expectations


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,018 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    The film seems to based off the reboot game, which is one of the most joyless, characterless mass murder action games I've ever played. I'd hold out little hope for this.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    pixelburp wrote: »
    I was under the impression the conversation was more about whether this might finally be a game adaptation that doesn't suck, than about the success or otherwise of female-led action films. Outside of the game industry itself, Lara Croft is yesterday's woman in many respects, I can't imagine there's that much cultural investment in this - so if anything it can only exceed expectations

    I think initially it was just another game adaptation but the massive financial success of WW in the meantime will change the conversation.
    There's always the possibility that WWs success will bring an entirely new audience to this film regardless of how good it is or isn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    They have the style of the games (moreso than Angelina's movies) but I'm not sure that will make for a good movie overall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Aaaaand its gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    It's been taken down. Was it 1min long?

    Found this one: https://www.gamespot.com/videos/tomb-raider-movie-first-official-trailer/2300-6440955/

    edit: and it's gone too

    edit 2: found it again :)
    https://twitter.com/LaraCroftFrance/status/910245605410312192


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,693 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    It seems to be taking a lot of its material straight out of the first rebooted Tomb Raider game which isn't a bad thing but the feel of it seems all wrong, it just looks very cheap and feels even more like a tv series, which is a pity as it seems like they have the right intentions but don't have the budget to carry it off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,217 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    IT does seem to be pretty much the first of the reboots alright (Right down to the climbing axe). I've no real interest in seeing it but I'm not too concerned about the footage shown. It isn't out until next year and there is a LOT of post production and effects work to be done. The girl looks the part but, as someone posted above, the first of the reboots was so grim (2nd wasn't any better). No sense of fun anymore. Just about killing as many people as possible. Now, don't get me wrong, Uncharted has a HUGE bodycount. But at least it's fun!


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