Electric car for long distance

qrx

Which electric car is best for long distance driving? I'm looking at commuting from Gorey to Dublin and exploring all the options. Driving with low fuel costs would be ideal. I think Carrickmines LUAS stop is closest spot with an ESB charger, so that's roughly 75km. Nissan leaf supposedly does 100km from full charge. Is this realistic?

Atlantic Dawn

While yes the Leaf would be fine for the journey your problem is availability of the charger, if another car is parked there your plans for that day are ruined and you have 25km or less to drive looking for another charger.

qrx

Yeah that would be a concern. I'd need to be able to get there and back to be safe.

qrx

Apologies for the double thread. I was trying to edit my post, don't know what happened there.

qrx

How are these cars for long distance journeys, comfort and performance wise? They're obviously designed for city running.

qrx

Sorry, one more question. Do the batteries deteriorate over time? Say if I bought a 5 year old would the stated 100km range be reduced to do battery degradation? Is there a test you can do to verify the range?

Alanstrainor

We have an Electric Vehicles forum which you should check out.

Be sure to do your sums with all of this, and think of the trade offs for going this route is all I'll say!

stesaurus

qrx wrote: »

Which electric car is best for long distance driving? I'm looking at commuting from Gorey to Dublin and exploring all the options. Driving with low fuel costs would be ideal. I think Carrickmines LUAS stop is closest spot with an ESB charger, so that's roughly 75km. Nissan leaf supposedly does 100km from full charge. Is this realistic?

You'd be driving the M11/N11 so theres' plenty of places to charge. Carrickmines is a slow charger so would be needed there for a few hours. There's plenty of other fast charge options along that route. You quite possibly could be waiting in a queue but usually not long or you could move to another FCP nearby and find it empty.
Use the map here:
https://www.esb.ie/our-businesses/ecars/charge-point-map

Chademo is the FCP for the Leaf, CCS is for BMW, VW and will be the future standard going forward for all cars. The Renault Zoe charges using AC so you can actually get a pretty quick 1hr full charge from all of the slow charge points in the country. So you're never stuck for a charge location.

All of the current crop will do 100km at motorway speeds. Longer if driving in the city. EV's are opposite to ICE(Internal Combustion) in that they get better mpg in city traffic. Plus they are way more fun to drive

Sh1tbag OToole

qrx wrote: »

Sorry, one more question. Do the batteries deteriorate over time? Say if I bought a 5 year old would the stated 100km range be reduced to do battery degradation? Is there a test you can do to verify the range?

They would degrade alright. A couple of % per year if the batteries are looked after and not going from completely full to completely empty too often

Idbatterim

or put your name down for the Tesla 3...

https://www.siliconrepublic.com/gear/2016/02/24/tesla-ireland-2016-elon-musk

far better off getting a car that will get you there and back again without arseing around having to charge it in my opinion, Tesla claim 215 mile range...

Marcusm

Ask BoatMad, he's driving from Gorey to M50 in an EV.

greengone

Regret cant post links so add the http www. and the dot for com for link below

" investors com/politics/perspective/electric-vehicle-subsidies-are-welfare-for-the-rich/"

investros.com wrote:

Why don’t car buyers buy more EVs? They cost too much. A recent paper published by MIT energy economist Christopher Knittel, along with two University of Chicago faculty, Michael Greenstone and Thomas Covert, determined, “The price of oil would need to exceed $350 per barrel before the electric vehicle was cheaper to operate.” Their findings confirm a 2012 report by the Congressional Budget Office, which estimated that the lifetime cost of owning an EV or PHV is $16,000 to $19,000 more than that of a conventional car.

Regret cant post links so add the http www.
"autoexpress.co.uk/best-cars/94305/fastest-depreciating-cars-top-10-worst-motoring-money-pits"

Electric car " ZOE" and "Nizan "leaf top the worst cars for keeping value in the UK .

autoexpress.com wrote:

Electric car depreciation explained

Electric cars might make you feel smug when you’re charging them for pennies overnight, but it looks as though they could ruin you at resale time. That's not the whole truth, however, as part of the problem for EVs is the Government grants offered to buyers which lower the effective purchase price. This naturally has the knock-on effect of forcing used values down.

We should remember that other models on our ‘main’ top 10 worst depreciators list above have been heavily discounted by manufacturers, another factor that pushes used values down but because the plug-in car grant is applied to EVs and hybrids by default, we've decided to list them seperately. The list prices quoted below are before the grant is applied.

So, here they are - the fastest depreciating models in the fastest depreciating sector of the UK car market...

To get max milage for electric cars the battery has to be new as they loss range per recharge and age .

For short range with second hand cars the electric is great and cheap as chips
Second hand 2011 Leafs from UK with low milage are very interesting and with to buy costs less than €3000 euros looks very cheaaapp

Oil prices short of WW3 will never go too high as Iran oil comes into supply and there is massive oversupply world wide for probably the next five years

However when the electric car comes with 500 kilometer ranges with 200,000 kilometer life battery and costs the same as petrol cars then petrol cars will probaly die out as the running costs of the electric is so much lowwer