Will you get a break/holiday from the farm in 2016

whelan2

With things alot tighter this year will you take a break ? Just booke flights to go to Nice for a week in the summer and will bring kids to Liverpool for a couple of nights in a few weeks, flights to Liverpool were 39 euro for 3 of us:eek:

Nekarsulm

Going to France in August, if all goes to plan.

RightTurnClyde

End of June, up onto the Ferry and off to France for 2 weeks.
After the spring just gone CANT BLOODY WAIT.

MickeyShtyles

Munich in August for a week. After that it'll be a wknd here and there.

_Brian

Just back from 2 weeks in China.

Have a campsite booked for May Bh weekend. Will also try another for June BH

Plan to do 2 weeks in a few campsites on the west coast in July/August.

Finish the year with few nights away at Halloween.

sounds like a lot of time off but I take unpaid leave as I want to get time away with herself and the kids as much as possible, something the caravan has made very possible.

jfh

_Brian wrote: »

Just back from 2 weeks in China.

Have a campsite booked for May Bh weekend. Will also try another for June BH

Plan to do 2 weeks in a few campsites on the west coast in July/August.

Finish the year with few nights away at Halloween.

sounds like a lot of time off but I take unpaid leave as I want to get time away with herself and the kids as much as possible, something the caravan has made very possible.

that sounds great, recommend any good ones on home soil?

jfh

going for 6 days to euro camp near girona, no holiday last year & missus wasn't going without sun for another year.

Greys0n

i am going to visit Japan this summer. Can't wait!

quader

Just booked 2 1/2 weeks in nz and 2 1/2 in Australia
Can't wait don't know what will pay for it

whelan2

jfh wrote: »

going for 6 days to euro camp near girona, no holiday last year & missus wasn't going without sun for another year.

This will be our first year going to a campsite, flights are crazy this year

jfh

whelan2 wrote: »

This will be our first year going to a campsite, flights are crazy this year

first year for us too, hence 6 days, if i was convinced i'd book the 10.
going with a 7 year & a 3 year old so they're easily pleased

WheatenBriar

Let me be the first to say,no.
I took no holiday last year and will take none this year
I will have to work harder than ever this year so the executives in glanbia and ornua can put food on their table and maybe clothe their grandchilder,the poor things

whelan2

WheatenBriar wrote: »

Let me be the first to say,no.
I took no holiday last year and will take none this year
I will work harder than ever this year so the executives in glanbia and ornua can put food on their table and maybe clothe their grandchilder,the poor things

I was saying yesterday to my Dad that I didnt think we could afford to go this year, he said you work hard all year. Will be long enough dead , so book a holiday and it will get paid for some how. Already looking forward to it now.. Nothing like a few days away to give everything a different perspective

C0N0R

Two weeks in New Zealand in June for a bit of skiing then nine nights in Thailand on the way home. Magaluf for a stag in September. Lads don't understand how I do it, yet there out pissing it up a wall two/three nights at the weekend.

RobertKK

I got out of farming this year, last year was my last in dairying.
Going to the F1 race in Texas later in the year, which has a Taylor Swift concert for free, going for a week.

blue5000

I ticked 'don't know' because I can't honestly see myself flying anywhere this year. Mrs B is paranoid about anyone looking after the f**k**g dogs. Might get a long weekend in Kerry, we'll bring the jeep and the car, putting the f**k**g dogs in the jeep.

Heard of some people going on holidays and letting the dog off to fend for itself for 2 weeks last summer because it was going to cost 30 yoyo a day to have the dog looked after properly....

Nekarsulm

blue5000 wrote: »

I ticked 'don't know' because I can't honestly see myself flying anywhere this year. Mrs B is paranoid about anyone looking after the f**k**g dogs. Might get a long weekend in Kerry, we'll bring the jeep and the car, putting the f**k**g dogs in the jeep.

Heard of some people going on holidays and letting the dog off to fend for itself for 2 weeks last summer because it was going to cost 30 yoyo a day to have the dog looked after properly....

Build a pen.
JFC drinker in the corner.
Someone to throw a few tins of food over the side every morning.

Muckit

C0N0R wrote: »

Two weeks in New Zealand in June for a bit of skiing then nine nights in Thailand on the way home. Magaluf for a stag in September. Lads don't understand how I do it, yet there out pissing it up a wall two/three nights at the weekend.

I know how you do it, the only hand that dips in your wallet is your own .... no wife or kids l bet!!!!

Ball and chain well on here.... HELP ..
I'II do anything. I'II do a k mcgeever on it. Waste down to 10kg.... I'd fit in your hand luggage handy. I need a holiday..... HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MickeyShtyles

blue5000 wrote: »

I ticked 'don't know' because I can't honestly see myself flying anywhere this year. Mrs B is paranoid about anyone looking after the f**k**g dogs. Might get a long weekend in Kerry, we'll bring the jeep and the car, putting the f**k**g dogs in the jeep.

Heard of some people going on holidays and letting the dog off to fend for itself for 2 weeks last summer because it was going to cost 30 yoyo a day to have the dog looked after properly....

€30/day?!
Lassie I work with does it, I don't remember it being that expensive!

oxjkqg

Whats a holiday? :D

MickeyShtyles

oxjkqg wrote: »

Whats a holiday? :D

Tis like a holy day but ya don't go to mass....

freedominacup

whelan2 wrote: »

I was saying yesterday to my Dad that I didnt think we could afford to go this year, he said you work hard all year. Will be long enough dead , so book a holiday and it will get paid for some how. Already looking forward to it now.. Nothing like a few days away to give everything a different perspective

This is why we go. Both of us work. Mrs meets me in the kitchen every morning around half six. She's just up as I'm heading out. With all the other stuff involved with four kids it's rare that we sit down before 9.30 at night. There's no point to doing this if you can't go on holiday for couple of weeks. Flights booked since Nov. Apartment just about paid for now. Car hire will be paid when we land in faro. Won't spend much more per week while we're away than we would at home. Flights were cheaper this year than last but booking early helps. You'll be a long time dead.

whelan2

MickeyShtyles wrote: »

Tis like a holy day but ya don't go to mass....

not to be confused with a holly-day

tractorporn

Have booked the ferry to Hollyhead, heading for the Cotswolds for 5 nights at the end of June and we're hoping to go to "Adam's Farm". This may all change as the wife's masters graduation may be on that week so we have booked everything with 100% refundable deposit it was a little bit more expensive but allows us a lot more flexibility.

Looked at the ferry to France but with the Euros it made it far too expensive.

_Brian

whelan2 wrote: »

I was saying yesterday to my Dad that I didnt think we could afford to go this year, he said you work hard all year. Will be long enough dead

Absolutely dead right. My dad died at 66YO just a few months into retirement, my wife's dad died when she was just 9YO. Need to make the effort while you can as none of us know what's round the corner.

freedominacup wrote: »

Won't spend much more per week while we're away than we would at home.

We would always find this. We're not real big drinkers, we wouldn't choose high end restaurants and with the caravan cook alot of our own food when we're away. Both cars at home use €130 diesel a week, for 2 weeks away with the caravan behind the jeep it would cost maybe €250-300. lots of days out for us are hiking, cycling or messing round on the beach, none of which costs much money !!

whelan2

tractorporn wrote: »

Have booked the ferry to Hollyhead, heading for the Cotswolds for 5 nights at the end of June and we're hoping to go to "Adam's Farm". This may all change as the wife's masters graduation may be on that week so we have booked everything with 100% refundable deposit it was a little bit more expensive but allows us a lot more flexibility.

Looked at the ferry to France but with the Euros it made it far too expensive.

Was pricing the ferry during the week, it's dear enough to Hollyhead. worked out around 400 return

_Brian

whelan2 wrote: »

Was pricing the ferry during the week, it's dear enough to Hollyhead. worked out around 400 return

Roslare-Roscoff was €1800 last week, I checked for someone, we paid €1200 last year and oil prices are alot cheaper this year.

Base price

I hope to get away with OH to Donegal for a couple of nights during the summer and visit my brother. Youngest is only in 4th year in NUIG and has another year to go so finances are tight.

RightTurnClyde

_Brian wrote: »

Roslare-Roscoff was €1800 last week, I checked for someone, we paid €1200 last year and oil prices are alot cheaper this year.

We booked at Christmas for June for €1150

_Brian

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

We booked at Christmas for June for €1150

That's more like it... stick on €600 for 14 nights on the campsite and its a decent value 14 night holiday for the family.

Timmaay

Was skiing in Jan, but that might as well of been a lifetime ago ha, badly need something to look forward to with calving dragging on and breeding/silage around the corner. Don't know what I'll do yet, but will go with the flow wherever friends want to go (or maybe organise it myself and drag them along). Now that I think about it I wouldn't mind the likes of 10days and go somewhere further afeild than Europe, in general I'll always go off the beaten track, somewhere reasonable value but aim for a holiday that I'll definitely remember. I need to go back and volunteer in a 3rd world country again at some stage but probably too late this summer now (hmm excuses, I cannot let the farm/life keep pushing off stuff like this!). But anyways you get a fantastic perspective on the reality of the world volunteering, your home problems seem utterly negligible, alongside it being a great chance to meet interesting new people.

Buford T. Justice XIX

We booked flights from Kerry airport to London, 4 nights in an apartment for the 6 of us for something like 1300 euro in June (i think:)).

The biggest pain in the relief milking for 5 days, close to 500 Euro.

But after this spring, we all need a few days away.

We're not here for a long time, we're here for a good time, as my father used to say when we wanted to go abroad when we were younger.

RightTurnClyde

blue5000 wrote: »

I ticked 'don't know' because I can't honestly see myself flying anywhere this year. Mrs B is paranoid about anyone looking after the f**k**g dogs. Might get a long weekend in Kerry, we'll bring the jeep and the car, putting the f**k**g dogs in the jeep.

Heard of some people going on holidays and letting the dog off to fend for itself for 2 weeks last summer because it was going to cost 30 yoyo a day to have the dog looked after properly....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qguwpiDbMws

Nekarsulm

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

We booked at Christmas for June for €1150

Booked in Jan. for the end of August for €680 return. If you can return on Sept.1st onwards, return price drops by half.

RightTurnClyde

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Booked in Jan. for the end of August for €680 return. If you can return on Sept.1st onwards, return price drops by half.

We have to be back before end of Aug. missus has to go out and earn a crust. These cows don't pay for them selves you know.

Timmaay

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

We booked flights from Kerry airport to London, 4 nights in an apartment for the 6 of us for something like 1300 euro in June (i think:)).

The biggest pain in the relief milking for 5 days, close to 500 Euro.

But after this spring, we all need a few days away.

We're not here for a long time, we're here for a good time, as my father used to say when we wanted to go abroad when we were younger.

I think your looking at it the totally wrong way being annoyed as such about milk relief. I look at it from the point of view that if it was a normal job you wouldnt even bat an eyelid about walking away from the office or whatever for a week for holidays. That week away is lost productivity of your working life no matter what what job your in, with a normal job you effectively lose a weeks wages (not directly with holidays etc, but it's probably factored into salaries), for farming you still get the income from the milk for the week but have the cost of labour instead.

Muckit

_Brian wrote: »

Roslare-Roscoff was €1800 last week, I checked for someone, we paid €1200 last year and oil prices are alot cheaper this year.

Go a nice bit on a hotel!

Username John

Off to Italy for a week in oct.

But I feel a bit of a fraud in a way, posting on this thread...

Having a an off farm job insulates you from a lot of the financial instability of farming. So whilst full time farmers are tight on money cos of poor prices - I suspect for most part timers, with off farm jobs - it's the off farm pays for the holiday, so it's just another year...

Or have I said the wrong thing?

_Brian

Username John wrote: »

Off to Italy for a week in oct.

But I feel a bit of a fraud in a way, posting on this thread...

Having a an off farm job insulates you from a lot of the financial instability of farming. So whilst full time farmers are tight on money cos of poor prices - I suspect for most part timers, with off farm jobs - it's the off farm pays for the holiday, so it's just another year...

Or have I said the wrong thing?

Spot on. Has to be acknowledged.

_Brian

Muckit wrote: »

Go a nice bit on a hotel!

Not that keen on a hotel holiday, we used hotels for the two weeks in China and I would be just as happy in the caravan, but I don't think the xtrail would drag it all the way there 😱 Each to their own, that's what makes things interesting.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Timmaay wrote: »

I think your looking at it the totally wrong way being annoyed as such about milk relief. I look at it from the point of view that if it was a normal job you wouldnt even bat an eyelid about walking away from the office or whatever for a week for holidays. That week away is lost productivity of your working life no matter what what job your in, with a normal job you effectively lose a weeks wages (not directly with holidays etc, but it's probably factored into salaries), for farming you still get the income from the milk for the week but have the cost of labour instead.

Ahh yeah, I agree with you but it galls me a bit when costs stay the same despite the arse falling out of milk price.

I normally take two weeks away doing different things like days out and open days but its down to one week this year so I will have to pick and choose which open days to go to and will probably milk after we come back from a day out.

I'm feeling moany today:rolleyes:

Timmaay

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Ahh yeah, I agree with you but it galls me a bit when costs stay the same despite the arse falling out of milk price.

I normally take two weeks away doing different things like days out and open days but its down to one week this year so I will have to pick and choose which open days to go to and will probably milk after we come back from a day out.

I'm feeling moany today:rolleyes:

Is it FRS or private? Worth negotiating with them over the price? Tell them they'll get 2wks milking in the year instead of one at a lower rate?

Buford T. Justice XIX

Timmaay wrote: »

Is it FRS or private? Worth negotiating with them over the price? Tell them they'll get 2wks milking in the year instead of one at a lower rate?

FRS. I don't mind paying them, they do a good job mostly, it's the fekking working for free is bugging me:)

It's good to get away though. We went last year and the following day the first 2 reactors went to the factory so there is always something to bring you down if you let it.

White Clover

Timmaay wrote: »

Is it FRS or private? Worth negotiating with them over the price? Tell them they'll get 2wks milking in the year instead of one at a lower rate?

Tim, you can't dictate another man's income should drop just because your own is after dropping. Would you be as quick to give a 50 % increase if milk goes back to 36c?

_Brian

White Clover wrote: »

Tim, you can't dictate another man's income should drop just because your own is after dropping. Would you be as quick to give a 50 % increase if milk goes back to 36c?

I'd agree, he's still milking X cows for you no matter if your making 1c/l or 21c/l, he's providing the same service.

jfh

White Clover wrote: »

Tim, you can't dictate another man's income should drop just because your own is after dropping. Would you be as quick to give a 50 % increase if milk goes back to 36c?

In fairness, he's not dictating, he's negotiating, ;-)

White Clover

jfh wrote: »

In fairness, he's not dictating, he's negotiating, ;-)

"Tell them"
I think it's quiet clear :-)

_Brian

jfh wrote: »

In fairness, he's not dictating, he's negotiating, ;-)

I always thing of a previous lad I worked for in engineering...
"a fella was better at home than being a busy fool"

Remember, as a dairy farmer you've made the commitment to milk no matter what the price... as a relief milker he's only going to be interested in milking if its actually worth his time. If your going to be mean about it your not going to have someone you can rely on in the future.

jfh

White Clover wrote: »

"Tell them"
I think it's quiet clear :-)

he can "tell them" what he likes, that's not dictating, he cant impose the price.

pedigree 6

Off topic anyway have a relation who does relief milking for a few guys.
Does a good job - clean and tidy after. Gets a bonus sometimes after as well.

Be shot now for saying bonus.:P

White Clover

jfh wrote: »

he can "tell them" what he likes, that's not dictating, he cant impose the price.

What's the point in telling them then?
The fact is that it's very unreasonable to expect someone else to take a pay cut just because you're having a bad year yourself. In fact it's ridiculous.