virgin media concession?

celica1994

does anyone know if virgin media give a concession for having the equipment on the side of someones property, im purchasing a house soon and im pretty sure they are running cable off the side of the house?

ED E

You can work out a deal if they're adding it, don't know how they handle it if its existing. I suspect legally they'd be required to remove it if instructed as their contract wasn't with you so that would give you some ammo. Bear in mind if they called your bluff your neighborhood would hate you.

celica1994

ED E wrote: »

You can work out a deal if they're adding it, don't know how they handle it if its existing. I suspect legally they'd be required to remove it if instructed as their contract wasn't with you so that would give you some ammo. Bear in mind if they called your bluff your neighborhood would hate you.

ill ask them to remove it if they dont offer a discount at least, plus they can re-route the cable around the property, checked it there on google maps. its one hell of an ammount of wires on the side of the house

ED E

They don't route around, if they receive an objection/unwilling resident they just stop serving past the previous home. Just FYI.

dub45

Are you in a position to check with the current owner if there is any agreement currently in place?

celica1994

dub45 wrote: »

Are you in a position to check with the current owner if there is any agreement currently in place?

prob not a bad idea mind you, thanks for the suggestion

Johnboy1951

celica1994 wrote: »

ill ask them to remove it if they dont offer a discount at least, plus they can re-route the cable around the property, checked it there on google maps. its one hell of an ammount of wires on the side of the house

I can understand routing a cable across the property, but the above confuses me a little.

Are you sure all those wires are theirs?
Got a pic of what is there?

Shebuxee

have same issue with a cable connected to my gable and crossing the street to continue the line. Asked them for concession as a new connection.....no go "we couldnt give you a concession as we would then have to give everyone else where we have a cable run, We (Virgin) work on the goodwill of houseowners to give the service."??????......but no goodwill coming the other way from them in relation to any concession. In my case they are willing to cut off 6 other customers instead of giving me a small concession 15% off my bills......doesnt make any sense. Told them to take down the cable and they said that they would relook at it and come back to me.

My question to them is why would I have a Virgin System/Cables/Box on my building and use a different Broadband Supplier????. If I am using different then they have to take it down.....

colm_mcm

Far as I know, if VM/UPC have a wayleave agreement for equipment on the house, then this wayleave should be declared by the seller and is not voided when someone else buys the house.

ED E

colm_mcm wrote: »

Far as I know, if VM/UPC have a wayleave agreement for equipment on the house, then this wayleave should be declared by the seller and is not voided when someone else buys the house.

Nope, its all done informally. Paperwork is only sought for plant not cabling.

Shebuxee wrote: »

have same issue with a cable connected to my gable and crossing the street to continue the line. Asked them for concession as a new connection.....no go "we couldnt give you a concession as we would then have to give everyone else where we have a cable run, We (Virgin) work on the goodwill of houseowners to give the service."??????......but no goodwill coming the other way from them in relation to any concession. In my case they are willing to cut off 6 other customers instead of giving me a small concession 15% off my bills......doesnt make any sense. Told them to take down the cable and they said that they would relook at it and come back to me.

My question to them is why would I have a Virgin System/Cables/Box on my building and use a different Broadband Supplier????. If I am using different then they have to take it down.....

Do you want your neighbours to hate your guts? Thats exactly what you're aiming for.

degsie

Some way to start with your new neighbours :rolleyes:

Cuddlesworth

About 10 years ago my neighbour did this, UPC came out and removed the cables, routed the remaining houses in via the other direction and blacklisted his house.

9726_9726

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

About 10 years ago my neighbour did this, UPC came out and removed the cables, routed the remaining houses in via the other direction and blacklisted his house.

Interesting. Must've been a handy tail hanging at the other end of the "orphaned" block. Usually they just knock off the whole row, forever leading people to refer to not being able to get cable because of that p*ick in number X.

..... which you could look at another way. They get free easements to build their network based on the assumption that nobody wants to be the p*ick in number X and usually get away with it.

TomOnBoard

As they said, if they offered a concession to anyone, then they'd have to do it for everyone.

The whole rationale behind sticking cables on the front wall of yer house is based on it being cheaper and quicker to put in infrastructure rather than having to use street poles or go underground and then run in a tail to each house. It's basically a 'community spirit' based approach that is supposed to provide a good service in competition with the company that owns all the copper lines in the country. So each householder voluntarily allows the company a 'wayleave' that probably has no legal standing in order to facilitate the company installing the competitive service for their street or housing estate. Everyone then benefits for the sake of a few wires across their house.

Now if the company does a c r a p job of routing those cables and leaves an unsightly mess, then I'd also take them on. However, I wouldn't be the one to force the cutting of the service to everyone else! That's a recipe for very poor neighbour relations, and you'd have to be squeaky clean and legal in relation to all your other actions if you create a bad neighbour scenario for yourself, especially as you will now be a 'blow-in'...

ItHurtsWhenIP

When Westward Cable were running their coax around Limerick back in the 80's they came up our road and our attached neighbour refused to allow them pass his house. Luckily for us, we were before him in the cable run, so we got it. But the dozens of neighbours beyond were absolutely furious. I think it took a year or more for them to get cabled from the opposite side.

Now our neighbours weren't pr*cks. They were in their 80's and extremely house proud, keeping it very clean and tidy. They simply didn't want the service or the unsightly cable running along the front of their house. :rolleyes: