Free cable with KBO system

Deub

Hi all,

I am useless at installing TVs if the auto tuning doesn't work.

I moved to an apartment that has the TV system installed by KBO.
I have a small cable with a paper saying "your home is sky ready" that seems to connect the satellite dish to the TV plug on the wall with a T shape connection. I plug the TV cable in it and did the auto tuning.
The quality of some channels is poor.
Do I need to buy something or change the settings on the TV with doing the auto tuning?

Thanks for your help !

Thurston?

So it's actually terrestrial channels you're trying to tune, & the T-shaped thing is probably a Triax Outlet Link or similar?

Or does your TV have a satellite tuner? Which channels are you getting anyway?

Pics of the wallplate, T-shaped connector, & input to TV could be useful.

Atlantic Dawn

What channels are you picking up?

Deub

Thurston? wrote: »

So it's actually terrestrial channels you're trying to tune, & the T-shaped thing is probably a Triax Outlet Link or similar?

Or does your TV have a satellite tuner? Which channels are you getting anyway?

Pics of the wallplate, T-shaped connector, & input to TV could be useful.

Yes the T shapes thing looks exactly like the one on your link.

I have english channels like the vault, sky news, itv2, channel 4 and others.

For the auto tuning i tried "air" and "cable" for the aerial. And for channel type I selested "digital and analogue".
The TV is samsung UE42F6000 but I don't know if the TV has a satellite tuner.

Thurston?

If you're using 'air' & 'cable', then you must be hooked up to the TV's terrestrial/cable tuner. The channels you're getting are probably received onto the system via satellite, & redistributed in a form that terrestrial/cable-only TVs can tune into. (Is the poor quality you mention in your OP 'snow' or patterning on an analogue picture, or pixellation/breakup on digital?)

Anyhow, to begin with, I'd remove the T-piece, as it's a splitter more than halving the signal to the TV, & just use a cable from the wallplate.

Deub

It is more like snow or patterning depending of the channels.

I tried to remove the T-shaped thing but I can't plug my cable in it because it is the same plug (both male type). I would need the opposite one (female type).

Deub

Still no joy to have a decent picture on some channels.
After reading this thread: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057321293
It looks like I need to buy a satellite receiver.
Am I correct?

dubrov

Free Irish TV is generally from an aerial.
Free UK TV is from a satellite dish.

As I understand it, kbo generally install satellite on behalf of Sky.
As they are working for sky they have no interest in free tv so I would guess that you have a satellite connection only.

They normally connect apartments who subscribe to Sky but don't bother to disconnect afterwards.

A lot of TVs have inbuilt satellite tuners (DVB-S or DVB-S2) and in that case you wouldn't need a satellite box.
Check the specs for your TV model. I can't fine model number UE42F6000 in google so I suspect it is slightly different.

If it does have the required tuner, then auto tune with digital and satellite settings. That will pick up all the main UK channels.

If the channels are still choppy it is likely that bad cabling is between the satellite dish and your TV is the issue.
KBO will fix this but if they are linked with Sky you may need a Sky subscription. Check with your management company what the situation is.

Deub

Thank you dubrov. I made a mistake and the TV is a 42F5000 (not 6000). Apparently there isn't the DVB-S or DVB-S2 so I need to buy a satellite receiver.

Do you have any recommendations for a satellite box for around 50€?

The Cush

Deub wrote: »

Do you have any recommendations for a satellite box for around 50€?

This Manhattan Plaza Freesat HD receiver is the cheapest around, €65 in Powercity - http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-24-340183

List of channels on Freesat - http://www.tvchannellists.com/List_of_channels_on_Freesat_(UK)

Deub

Thanks !
So I found the Manhattan Plaza Freesat HD in a shop today and bought it.
However I need to go again. I have to find an aerial cable with a F connector at one end because the receiver only takes F connector.
So frustrating not to be able to install it today.

Thurston?

So obviously the wall plate at your TV point doesn't have an f-connector on it, it only has the socket the 't-shaped thing' was plugged into?

Deub

The T-shape connector is in the wall plug for the normal TV and there is a cable going from it to a F connector in another wall plug for the satellite. The only plug available on it is the aerial one.

Thurston?

Deub wrote: »

The T-shape connector is in the wall plug for the normal TV and there is a cable going from it to a F connector in another wall plug for the satellite.

The t-shaped connector is nothing to do with the satellite signal though.

Is there only a single f-connector on the other plate? If so, there's probably no satellite connection at all, & it's just being used to feed the 'normal TV' signal to other rooms.

Of course, the satellite feed could more than likely be easily connected (or reconnected).

Deub

Here is a picture

A friend lives in the same appartment complex and uses an old sky box.

Thurston?

Right, so there are f-connectors, clearly labeled 'sat 1' & 'sat 2'.

I just wondered why you wanted a cable with an f-connector at one end ...

Deub

Sorry, I was maybe not clear, when I say F connector it is to plug it into the satellite receiver.

The Cush

Deub wrote: »

However I need to go again. I have to find an aerial cable with a F connector at one end because the receiver only takes F connector.

Satellite flylead like this one with F connectors both ends

http://www.powercity.ie/?par=30-70-DV6002

Deub

The Cush wrote: »

Satellite flylead like this one with F connectors both ends

http://www.powercity.ie/?par=30-70-DV6002

On the left hand side, you see a white cable and it is an aerial cable currently going to the TV. If I want a cable from the T-shape connector to the satellite receiver I need an aerial connector on one side and a F connector to the other end to plug it in the satellite box.

Thurston?

Deub wrote: »

... If I want a cable from the T-shape connector to the satellite receiver I need an aerial connector on one side and a F connector to the other end to plug it in the satellite box.

As I posted already, the T-shape connector is nothing to do with the signal that's needed by your satellite tuner. What's coming from the 'normal TV' socket seems to be an in-house system, that can be tuned into by TVs with no satellite tuner.

You need to connect your satellite tuner to either of the connectors labeled 'sat 1' & 'sat 2'.

Deub

Thurston? wrote: »

As I posted already, the T-shape connector is nothing to do with the signal that's needed by your satellite tuner. What's coming from the 'normal TV' socket seems to be an in-house system, that can be tuned into by TVs with no satellite tuner.

You need to connect your satellite tuner to either of the connectors labeled 'sat 1' & 'sat 2'.

Thanks. I will do that tomorrow and let you know. I appreciate your help

The Cush

Deub wrote: »

On the left hand side, you see a white cable and it is an aerial cable currently going to the TV. If I want a cable from the T-shape connector to the satellite receiver I need an aerial connector on one side and a F connector to the other end to plug it in the satellite box.

No, from what I can see and assuming the wallplate is connected as it should be the satellite feeds from the dish will be the outlets identified as SAT1 & SAT2 hence the reason for a flylead with 2 F connectors.

The outlet with the T splitter (outlet link) normally carries a terrestrial or cable signal to a tv with a loopthrough to the right I'm assuming is to another TV point in the apartment

Deub

The Cush wrote: »

No, from what I can see and assuming the wallplate is connected as it should be the satellite feeds from the dish will be the outlets identified as SAT1 & SAT2 hence the reason for a flylead with 2 F connectors.

The outlet with the T splitter (outlet link) normally carries a terrestrial or cable signal to a tv with a loopthrough to the right I'm assuming is to another TV point in the apartment

You are right. There are 2 other TV points in the apartment.

The Cush

Deub wrote: »

You are right. There are 2 other TV points in the apartment.

If you were using a Sky box this wallplate "return" input would be used to feed the other TV points with the Sky box output via Sky magic eyes.

Deub

I went to buy the missing cable and all works well !
I still need to let the aerial cable in the TV to get the irish channels but after a search I think there is no other choice to get them.

Thanks all for your help.