elysian cork

dubbeat

Does anyone know how to go about getting viewings for the elysian in Cork?

I've heard some people say the apartments are being held off the market but others have said viewings are possible.

jayjay2010

dubbeat wrote: »

Does anyone know how to go about getting viewings for the elysian in Cork?

I've heard some people say the apartments are being held off the market but others have said viewings are possible.

I was wondering the same thing a few months ago. I wonder what price they would start from nowadays

davo10

dubbeat wrote: »

Does anyone know how to go about getting viewings for the elysian in Cork?

I've heard some people say the apartments are being held off the market but others have said viewings are possible.

I got the price list from the EA a few months ago, I figured there might be some value there but I was struck by how small the apartments are and how high the price for them was.

sozbox

dubbeat wrote: »

Does anyone know how to go about getting viewings for the elysian in Cork?

I've heard some people say the apartments are being held off the market but others have said viewings are possible.

Just call up the letting agent, Lisney is one of them I think. I viewed one there, very nice but not very good value at the time. Very handy having an Aldi downstairs tho!

dubbeat

sozbox wrote: »

Just call up the letting agent, Lisney is one of them I think. I viewed one there, very nice but not very good value at the time. Very handy having an Aldi downstairs tho!

Oh Cool,

I might give Lisney a call during the week. Do you know any other agents for that place?

My googling didn't yield much

sozbox

dubbeat wrote: »

Oh Cool,

I might give Lisney a call during the week. Do you know any other agents for that place?

My googling didn't yield much

Sherry Fitz is the other one actually, just remembered

You'd be looking at €1100 for a 1 bed and 1300-1700 for a 2 bed minimum if not more these days.

sozbox

They are fitting out the remaining units at the mo so now would be your best shot

http://www.irishexaminer.com/property/news/cork-is-a-city-on-the-up-heading-into-2016-373854.html

gaius c

sozbox wrote: »

Sherry Fitz is the other one actually, just remembered

You'd be looking at €1100 for a 1 bed and 1300-1700 for a 2 bed minimum if not more these days.

Those be Dublin prices. Unless you've money to burn, best to search elsewhere.

sozbox

gaius c wrote: »

Those be Dublin prices. Unless you've money to burn, best to search elsewhere.

Thought it was a bit much alright so I left it off. Looks like a nice place to live still, there was a gym on site too if I recall.And free TV


"For your entertainment, 16 channels are available Free of charge at each TV point in the apartment:
RTE 1, RTE 2, TV 3, TG 4, BBC 1, BBC 2, BBC 3, BBC 4, UTV, CBBC, CBeebies, Channel 4, FILM 4, CNN, SKY NEWS, SMASH HITS."

gaius c

gaius c wrote: »

Those be Dublin prices. Unless you've money to burn, best to search elsewhere.

Any have decent 2 bed apartment in cork in looking for 1300 now and loads looking 1500.

pwurple

gaius c wrote: »

Those be Dublin prices. Unless you've money to burn, best to search elsewhere.

Smack bang in the city center? That's pretty close to it tbh.

SarahMollie

At first I was a bit shocked with those prices for Cork, but I'm assuming that that building is considered premium in Cork, so comparing it with Dublin you'd need to be talking about places like D4 or Grand Canal Dock to get a fair comparison.

Quick search on Myhome.ie suggests that a fairly ordinary apartment in Ballsbridge (Herbert Park, so very premium address) is now asking €2,250 pcm.

http://www.myhome.ie/rentals/brochure/the-pines-herbert-park-lane-apartments-ballsbridge-dublin-4/2837951

There are penthouse apartments (also 2 bed) in the same development asking €3k+ pcm.

Laura_A

I lived in the Elysian for a year and absolutely loved it - we paid €1150 for a 2 bed duplex but we moved back to Dublin in 2014 so prices probably have gone up but 1300-1700 still seems high!!

sozbox

Prices released this weekend. As above, starting at €1.100 for. 1 bed.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/property/the-elysian-in-cork-is-set-for-full-occupancy-by-the-end-of-the-year-400879.html

Considering they are the best apartments in cork and possibly the country I'm very surprised there are two beds being let for 1300 still. Ok it's not cheap but realitavely speaking it's the same or even less than an awful lot of inferior (and some far far inferior) two bed apartments are asking in cork at the moment. Wonder what is there thinking pricing it lower than they could get.

newacc2015

Royalty Better Dealer wrote: »

Considering they are the best apartments in cork and possibly the country I'm very surprised there are two beds being let for 1300 still. Ok it's not cheap but realitavely speaking it's the same or even less than an awful lot of inferior (and some far far inferior) two bed apartments are asking in cork at the moment. Wonder what is there thinking pricing it lower than they could get.

They might be pricing to get them let ASAP. The developer has had them empty for years. Im sure he would rather have them full within a few days, rather than waiting for a month to get €1400. They can always up the rent in 2 years or when people leave

April 73

Considering the recent thread showing pure dives renting in Dublin for a €1000 quid, these look relatively reasonable. Can't quite believe I said that!

But...city centre location, bright, well furnished, close to amentities. It's not crazy money for what it is.

sozbox

Very reasonable. The thinking might be that releasing over 100 units into the market will mean prices might stabilise briefly,hence the realistic price.

newacc2015

newacc2015 wrote: »

They might be pricing to get them let ASAP. The developer has had them empty for years. Im sure he would rather have them full within a few days, rather than waiting for a month to get €1400. They can always up the rent in 2 years or when people leave

That would make sense except they have been doing the exact opposite of getting them let quickly as up until last week it's only hearing by word of mouth and going directly to the letting agent that they are being let and that's happening since the start of the year.

sozbox wrote: »

Very reasonable. The thinking might be that releasing over 100 units into the market will mean prices might stabilise briefly,hence the realistic price.

They appear to be very much drip feeding them into the market though which would make sense they were pushing for as big a rent as possible but they aren't.

April 73 wrote: »

Considering the recent thread showing pure dives renting in Dublin for a €1000 quid, these look relatively reasonable. Can't quite believe I said that!

But...city centre location, bright, well furnished, close to amentities. It's not crazy money for what it is.

All include at least one parking space too.

newacc2015

Royalty Better Dealer wrote: »

That would make sense except they have been doing the exact opposite of getting them let quickly as up until last week it's only hearing by word of mouth and going directly to the letting agent that they are being let and that's happening since the start of the year.



They appear to be very much drip feeding them into the market though which would make sense they were pushing for as big a rent as possible but they aren't.

AFAIK the developer has very limited funds. He might not have the money to complete the entire decorating and furnishing of the apartment at once. He might be trying to save face by only letting them as they are done. It doesnt look great for a luxury development to being let when the place is half finished. It is like rolling up to a Four Seasons and discovering that a luxury hotel, that is supposed to represent luxury and wealth is only half complete. It is a bit of an oxymoron.

newacc2015

newacc2015 wrote: »

AFAIK the developer has very limited funds. He might not have the money to complete the entire decorating and furnishing of the apartment at once. He might be trying to save face by only letting them as they are done. It doesnt look great for a luxury development to being let when the place is half finished. It is like rolling up to a Four Seasons and discovering that a luxury hotel, that is supposed to represent luxury and wealth is only half complete. It is a bit of an oxymoron.

Oh I know this is the case for sure, they are not all finished (though all common areas etc are completed its just the apartments are not fitted out so you wouldn't know looking from the outside that the place isn't finished). They are being fitted out in phases of 10 or 15 apartments as far as I know which all become available then in one go.

I don't know the ins and out just what I've heard from people who are looking into renting there.

SteelyDanJalapeno

Theres an open viewing for at least 10 units tomorrow actually. starting at 1350 a month for 2 bed.

cardinal tetra

Premium apartments at the heart of the city center. Exclusive building. Best they could pull in was Aldi!!!! they wanted M&S im sure. so funny to see the equivalent of a pound shop propping up the tallest building in ireland TM. (i like aldi fwit)

BryanF

Royalty Better Dealer wrote: »

Considering they are the best apartments in cork and possibly the country

May I ask why you believe this?

BryanF

newacc2015 wrote: »

AFAIK the developer has very limited funds. He might not have the money to complete the entire decorating and furnishing of the apartment at once. He might .

afaik they're now all furnished? Perhaps there are too many 'mights' in this post..

BryanF

BryanF wrote: »

May I ask why you believe this?

Have you seen them they are fantastic apartments. Even the smaller ones are big in comparison to most complexes (including lots of storage space), they are finished to a luxury standard and the whole complex in general is finished to a very high standard. They really do look like as nice a place to live as you will find.

BryanF wrote: »

afaik they're now all furnished? Perhaps there are too many 'mights' in this post..

From what I've heard they aren't all furnished and it will be another while yet before they are as its being done in stages.

Lia_lia

Saw them up on Daft for rent alright. Very reasonable price in fairness. Wouldn't be my my cup of tea but compared to some of the dives in Cork going for similar prices it's a fantastic deal!

The_Conductor

They look to be remarkable.
So- they're drip feeding them on the market as they do them up- at a rate of between 8 and 12 a go- and should have the building fully let by March 2017?
Seems to be a bit of a strange way to do things- but I guess, its better than borrowing money @ 15%.........

cardinal tetra

They would be nothing special in new modern apartment blocks in dublin/london etc...

They have used nice finishes in the doors, framing etc...

The kitchens are nothing special. the layouts and finishings used are just a tad over average. your not getting a million pound home. your getting a "luxury apt." irish style. an air of "that'll do" about it.

Pro Hoc Vice

cardinal tetra wrote: »

Premium apartments at the heart of the city center. Exclusive building. Best they could pull in was Aldi!!!! they wanted M&S im sure. so funny to see the equivalent of a pound shop propping up the tallest building in ireland TM. (i like aldi fwit)

I have lived in Elysian, for years and I love that it's Aldi would much rather it to M&S.

Pro Hoc Vice

BryanF wrote: »

May I ask why you believe this?

Having lived in them for a long number of years and having a number of builders visit all said the best for size and finish that they have seen.

Pro Hoc Vice

cardinal tetra wrote: »

They would be nothing special in new modern apartment blocks in dublin/london etc...

They have used nice finishes in the doors, framing etc...

The kitchens are nothing special. the layouts and finishings used are just a tad over average. your not getting a million pound home. your getting a "luxury apt." irish style. an air of "that'll do" about it.

You must have missed the ones with Porsche Kitchen, all apartment are well over normal height the triplex million plus apartments are stunning.

Pro Hoc Vice

The_Conductor wrote: »

They look to be remarkable.
So- they're drip feeding them on the market as they do them up- at a rate of between 8 and 12 a go- and should have the building fully let by March 2017?
Seems to be a bit of a strange way to do things- but I guess, its better than borrowing money @ 15%.........

My understanding is about 40 are occupied for about 6-7 years another 60 are bring done at the moment the remaining 100 will come on line next year I assume. I don't think money is the issue my own guess is they want to drip feed them to the market.

Pro Hoc Vice

BryanF wrote: »

afaik they're now all furnished? Perhaps there are too many 'mights' in this post..

About 80 currently furnished at a guess out of 211.

cardinal tetra

cardinal tetra wrote: »

They would be nothing special in new modern apartment blocks in dublin/london etc...

They have used nice finishes in the doors, framing etc...

The kitchens are nothing special. the layouts and finishings used are just a tad over average. your not getting a million pound home. your getting a "luxury apt." irish style. an air of "that'll do" about it.

Have you been in one? I was inside for the first time in the past week. They are better than I thought even. Fantastic apartments.

MintyMagnum

Are they selling any of these?

Askthe EA

MintyMagnum wrote: »

Are they selling any of these?

Nope... I asked.

newcorkonian

I've been in apartments for professionals all over the world. I agree with what others have said about the apartments are good value for what you get. They are very nice, but not luxurious by the standards of the commercial centres major European or US cities.

FrStone

newcorkonian wrote: »

I've been in apartments for professionals all over the world. I agree with what others have said about the apartments are good value for what you get. They are very nice, but not luxurious by the standards of the commercial centres major European or US cities.

Yeah, I'd agree with you. They are grand! Also I know somebody who moved out when the Albert Quay building went up as it has blocked their view.

You also have to wonder what the demand is for flats in the city centre. Alot of the professional jobs in Cork are not in the city centre and out in the likes of mahon, knocknaheeny or ringaskiddy.

Askthe EA

FrStone wrote: »

Yeah, I'd agree with you. They are grand! Also I know somebody who moved out when the Albert Quay building went up as it has blocked their view.

You also have to wonder what the demand is for flats in the city centre. Alot of the professional jobs in Cork are not in the city centre and out in the likes of mahon, knocknaheeny or ringaskiddy.

Maybe true but you have the two apple sites, all of south mall and the city centre. EMC in Ballincollig offers a free shuttlebus to the city centre also. Most of these employees are foreign and are used to and happy to pay for high quality apartments.

Whichever, the demand for high quality apartments in the city is huge. I rarely have to go twice to the really nice stuff and there are multiple viewers at each rental viewing. Rents are still climbing even though there are lots of high end apartment blocks in the city The Elysian, Cornmarket, Opera Lane etc).

FrStone

Askthe EA wrote: »

Maybe true but you have the two apple sites, all of south mall and the city centre. EMC in Ballincollig offers a free shuttlebus to the city centre also. Most of these employees are foreign and are used to and happy to pay for high quality apartments.

Whichever, the demand for high quality apartments in the city is huge. I rarely have to go twice to the really nice stuff and there are multiple viewers at each rental viewing. Rents are still climbing even though there are lots of high end apartment blocks in the city The Elysian, Cornmarket, Opera Lane etc).

I was wondering was it foreign immigrants who were taking them alright. Mainly because locals would prefer to buy and if they are paying that rate of rent can certainly afford to buy. And let's be honest I don't know many people in Cork who would buy a flat to live in. The price is generally very low for a flat in comparison to a house.

Also I find it difficult to believe someone who can afford a high quality flat would want to take a shuttle bus to work.

L1011

FrStone wrote: »

Also I find it difficult to believe someone who can afford a high quality flat would want to take a shuttle bus to work.

Take a look at London - areas of extremely high quality, extremely high price apartments and they all take the tube.

Askthe EA

Also common in silicon valley where house prices are astronomical. Public transport makes the world go round in most other major cities.

FrStone

L1011 wrote: »

Take a look at London - areas of extremely high quality, extremely high price apartments and they all take the tube.

There is a big difference between Cork and London though. Most people in Cork commute via car and van do it quickly and easily. Town to ballincollig could be done in 15 minutes on the morning rush hour. No waiting about for a shuttle bus.

Askthe EA

FrStone wrote: »

There is a big difference between Cork and London though. Most people in Cork commute via car and van do it quickly and easily. Town to ballincollig could be done in 15 minutes on the morning rush hour. No waiting about for a shuttle bus.

You're missing the point. A high proportion of them arent Irish, so therefore dont have a car, dont want a car and want to live where the social aspect is strongest. The city centre.

Pro Hoc Vice

FrStone wrote: »

I was wondering was it foreign immigrants who were taking them alright. Mainly because locals would prefer to buy and if they are paying that rate of rent can certainly afford to buy. And let's be honest I don't know many people in Cork who would buy a flat to live in. The price is generally very low for a flat in comparison to a house.

Also I find it difficult to believe someone who can afford a high quality flat would want to take a shuttle bus to work.

As a person who has lived here since 2009, I can tell you your assumptions are all incorrect.

Pro Hoc Vice

Askthe EA wrote: »

You're missing the point. A high proportion of them arent Irish, so therefore dont have a car, dont want a car and want to live where the social aspect is strongest. The city centre.

I'm Irish a good friend who lives 2 floors below me is Irish many of the people who live here are Irish also many from other countries but a fair few Irish living here. Many with cars.

Askthe EA

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

I'm Irish a good friend who lives 2 floors below me is Irish many of the people who live here are Irish also many from other countries but a fair few Irish living here. Many with cars.

I wasnt saying that, I'm sure there are loads of Irish where you are. I was referring to the point about shuttle buses and public transport, mind you, we are getting way off topic.....

Do you like living in the Elysian Pro?

L1011

FrStone wrote: »

There is a big difference between Cork and London though. Most people in Cork commute via car and van do it quickly and easily. Town to ballincollig could be done in 15 minutes on the morning rush hour. No waiting about for a shuttle bus.

Doesn't make "must use a car" right, though. Central London is surprisingly easy to drive around since the congestion charge and those boys can certainly afford it.

Pro Hoc Vice

Askthe EA wrote: »

I wasnt saying that, I'm sure there are loads of Irish where you are. I was referring to the point about shuttle buses and public transport, mind you, we are getting way off topic.....

Do you like living in the Elysian Pro?

I use public transport quite a lot. I love living here, the only current issue is as it fills up noise levels are increasing as more people walking through the Garden and generally more foot fall, but suppose that was to be expected in a building with 211 apartments and 600 plus parking spaces.

Askthe EA

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

I use public transport quite a lot. I love living here, the only current issue is as it fills up noise levels are increasing as more people walking through the Garden and generally more foot fall, but suppose that was to be expected in a building with 211 apartments and 600 plus parking spaces.

Hah, I can imagine. You had it good for so long!!