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"Im proud to be Irish.............

  • 08-04-2016 9:05am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭



    “It makes you proud to be Irish”, as said by Late Late showhost/ guests/ Irish sports supporters/ players/ politician/ Bono

    Why should Irish people be proud to be Irish?

    When the only thing we did was to be born inIreland, grow up in Ireland or have some Irish ancestry

    Its hardly an achievement, merely an accident of location orgenealogy

    It’s not like you have a choice. You can’t be “Proud to be Columbian”(unless of course you are Columbian)

    Is it the same as saying “I’m proud to have skin” or “I’mproud to breathe oxygen” or “I am proud to have two ears”?




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    Gets popcorn....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    It's always been a matter of convenience for me that those who just happen to be proud of being Irish were actually born Irish in the first place.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    Im proud to be not quite as much of a dick as some other people Ive met


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Most people are proud of the country they come from and have a certain sense of national pride.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,731 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    There's not much logic to being proud of the fact that you were born in a particular country, but what that country 'does' can have an effect on my sense of pride or even shame, especially when it is known about on an international level.

    On the day the marriage SSM referendum result was announced, I felt pride that we had voted the way we did.

    When the reports were released documenting child abuse and the state cowardice which facilitated it, I felt shame.

    In one way it has nothing to do with me at all, but there is a collective identity there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭holy guacamole


    People like being proud of things and if they can't be proud of themselves, their children or their county, then they'll just proud of their country.

    Also, instances of being proud of your country increase exponentially when you leave the country in question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    Valid point of view.

    It's like being proud of being tall or of your hair colour (unless you dye it).

    I am glad that I'm Irish, and glad that I'm tall though. Even if they're not exactly achievements, I'm happy my genetics / geography turned out as they did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    I'm not Irish but my wife and kids are and I'm proud of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    It depends on whether by "Proud" you mean, "Not ashamed" or "Outwardly boastful".

    Because the two are very different things and people can mean either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,433 ✭✭✭sideswipe



    “It makes you proud to be Irish”, as said by Late Late showhost/ guests/ Irish sports supporters/ players/ politician/ Bono

    Why should Irish people be proud to be Irish?

    When the only thing we did was to be born inIreland, grow up in Ireland or have some Irish ancestry

    Its hardly an achievement, merely an accident of location orgenealogy

    It’s not like you have a choice. You can’t be “Proud to be Columbian”(unless of course you are Columbian)

    Is it the same as saying “I’m proud to have skin” or “I’mproud to breathe oxygen” or “I am proud to have two ears”?



    I'm proud to have four.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Howard the Duck


    I'm proud of your choice of font OP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭conorhal


    When I look the list of nations that have gained their independence post WW1 to present:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_date_of_formation

    I'm proud of the fact that we rank among the prosperous, stable and peaceful nations in the world, and not just among those post colonial nations, but nations in general. Looking at the list, that was some acheivement, which suggests we've done more things right as a people then we have done wrong in choosing our path.

    Your place of birth is not incidental, everything you are is a product of where you come from, your landscape, your history, your ancestory, your politics, your opportunities, your culture are all the cumulative consequences and influences of what has gone before, all of which have contributed to where we are today, which as I pointed out with my opening statement, is a pretty good place to be born.

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Embrace your Irishness OP


    What is this
    "You can’t be “Proud to be Columbian”(unless of course you are Columbian)"
    So if you're Columbian you can be proud? I am confused now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    Humans by their nature are tribal so it makes some sense that many express national pride even though there may not be much logic for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    Was the standard 3 full stops not enough?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I think it's fine to be proud over Ireland and what Irish men and women have achieved. Yes, they all just happened to be born in Ireland but they helped mould the Irish identity and culture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭mariano rivera


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    Was the standard 3 full stops not enough?


    I'm proud of my full stops!


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