Aintree Day 1 07/04

Niallers87

I thought there would be a thread on this started already!! Some cracking days racing tomorrow; really fancy sizing john; cue card and pacha du polder

STB.

Sizing John will be delighted that he is not looking at Douvan's arse for a change. 3/1 seems a no brainer.

Apples Jade might turn over the Cheltenham form with soft ground conditions to suit. it really revolves around these two with Jers Girl having recently underlined the form.

Couldn't be having Cue Card over Djakadam and theres no Cossack around this time.

Marasonnien looks a nice e/w bet in the Foxhunters. It beat Salsify before winning the red mills open last month.

Word going round for Hobbs mare in the last.

gazza1

1.40 Sizing John
Agree with lads and really hope he wins

2.15 Cant have I.G. with heavy rain reported and of the 3 irish i think Apples Jade will come out on top but im going to take a chance on Romain De Senam @ 18/1who no doubt would have won the Fred Winter if it had been over these extra few yards. He also gave the winner 3lbs that day and reopposes on levels today. Nicholls also won the race last year with a 16/1 shot so hopefully he can repeat.

4.40 Will have a few bob on Viconte Du Noyer

GL2A

PM me nudes

E/W Double on Lami Serge (7/2) and Don Poli (11/2)

Bangor Billy

Just got back from that preview evening on Melling Road. Very wet and very windy in Aintree tonight.

the groutch

MTOY 5/2 w/o Annie is a huge price imo

finishing 2nd in a champion hurdle after two years off is an amazing performance, and is likely to come on for the run, while others are at the end of a long season.

dickenson famous5

Sizing John and on the fringe for me

Earendil

Bangor Billy wrote: »

Just got back from that preview evening on Melling Road. Very wet and very windy in Aintree tonight.

Still pissing down from what I've read billy?

Bangor Billy

Earendil wrote: »

Still pissing down from what I've read billy?

Rained off and on through most of the night I think. Stopped about 8 o'clock. Not raining at the moment.

slimshady007

the groutch wrote: »

MTOY 5/2 w/o Annie is a huge price imo

finishing 2nd in a champion hurdle after two years off is an amazing performance, and is likely to come on for the run, while others are at the end of a long season.

Although he ran fantastic in the champion would you not be concerned that an extra half mile on soft ground would be too much for him though? He seems to be more about speed than stamina.

Johner

John, John, John.

crusha101

Hello lads, im new to this thread

for a treble

14:50 - cue card
15:25 - annie power
16:05 - on the fringe

sevonfold accum e/w (if theres a bit of change left in the piggy bank)
13:40 - garde la victoire
14:15 - ivanovich gorbatov (even with present conditions i fancy at least a place)
14:50 - cue card
15:25 - annie power
16:05 - on the fringe
16:40 - minella present
17:15 - la bague au roi

happy betting

Gregk961

slimshady007 wrote: »

Although he ran fantastic in the champion would you not be concerned that an extra half mile on soft ground would be too much for him though? He seems to be more about speed than stamina.

Id be concerned enough about the distance and the likelihood of the bounce to stay well clear.

posturingpat

I'm feeling very worried about todays racing and suspect there could be quite a few upsets and will be keeping stakes to a minimum and having small e/w bets and maybe a little muggy e/w lucky 15 or lucky 31 for an interest.

1.40
Looks an open race and although i'm a big Sizing John fan i think 11/4 is a bit short as i think the better the ground the better his jumping is,i think the race is a lot more open than the betting suggests and Volnay De Thaix at 20/1 could surprise a few and get involved at the business end, had a nice debut over fences before getting stuck in the mud on heavy in January and then went over hurdles at Cheltenham when not enjoying carrying such a big weight. He's the highest rated of these over hurdles and is the least exposed chaser and i wouldn't be surprised if Henderson's been eyeing this race for a while.

2.15
Ivanovic Gorbatov is the best horse in the race of that i have little doubt but Joey got his target win with him at the Festival and 4 year old's can lose their form pretty quickly and again i'm going for a big outsider e/w.
Khezerabad ran a decent race in the Adonis on his first start over hurdles when he played the role of towing the main group into the race behind the front running Azzuri,i think he may have scuppered his won chances that day with how he was ridden and will improve for it on his second hurdles start and he's one of the few juveniles that didn't go to the festival which should also help.

2.50
Looks a 3 horse race on paper but i think they've each got questions to answer and Don Poli in particular i can't have,just don't think he's a top notch 3 miler, Djakadam had a tough race and Cue Card had a nasty fall.
The outsider e/w in this one is Taquin De Seuil, looked a really good Novice chaser winning the Jlt with the like of Uxizandre and Felix younger in behind,has had his issues since but came back with a nice win in a handicap chase prior to a staying on run in the Ryanair where he didn't have the toe to go with them early and made a few errors and i think this is his trip nowadays and wouldn't be surprised to see him sneak a place.

3.25
Annie should be winning this and i find it hard to oppose,particularly as i think Nichols canyons had a real tough season and he can't keep pulling out good runs and My Tent or yours will find it tough after such a good run after a long lay off and now upped in trip,dare i say it The New One could be the horse to take advantage if Annie has any slip ups.

4.05
Again i'm thinking there could be an upset and On the fringe will find it tough, Pacha Du Polder is all the rage after his run at the Festival after the apparent poor ride he got off Pendleton but i'd be in the opposte camp and think she gave him a peach of a ride albeit showing her lack of strength in a finish in the last furlong or 2. If i was forced to have a bet i might go for Major Malarkey, he front ran for a good bit at Cheltenham and if getting the lead here could be hard to peg back.

4.40
Minella present will win a handicap chase soon but i won't back until close to the time, if the ground's not a complete bog i'll be going in all guns blazing but if it is i might sit it out, think he's a plot all over and know Neil himself really fancied him for the Grand Annual and had kept him specifically for it but got balloted out.

5.15
Mares bumpers are far from an intriguing betting medium for me but one that could out run her odds is Shattered love, through her beating of Freeway space she's a better animal than Avellino who finished ahead of Copper Kay who's a few points shorter in the betting here and Avellino could arguably been a bit closer that day with a better ride.So Shattered love e/w could run a nice race.

BQQ

gazza1 wrote: »

2.15 Cant have I.G. with heavy rain reported and of the 3 irish i think Apples Jade will come out on top but im going to take a chance on Romain De Senam @ 18/1who no doubt would have won the Fred Winter if it had been over these extra few yards. He also gave the winner 3lbs that day and reopposes on levels today. Nicholls also won the race last year with a 16/1 shot so hopefully he can repeat.

I half agree with you :pac::D
Diego du charmil won the Fred Winter on his debut.
Yes, Romain De Senam would have won in a few more strides, but the winner is open to any amount of improvement. I don't think 3lbs will be enough to turn the form around.
+1 on the rest.

mailburner

really like the two places double @ 4.98 (Betw)

apples jade/sizing john



sizing john
apples jade
augusta kate
dandridge
pacha

Wicklow Brave

Great days racing but nothing really jumping out at me but the bets I have done are:

1:40 L'ami Serge
Backed him in the JLT where his jumping was very novicey and that's a slight turn off but I think he's a talented horse and I'll give him another chance.

2:15 Footpad
Ground is now soft on the hurdle course and I think he can turn the form with IG.

2:50 Cue Card
If he'd stood up in the Gold Cup, I'm not saying he would have won but I think himself and Don Cossack actually would have pulled a long way clear of Djakadam because DC was idling when he hit the front and with CC there I reckon they would have put 10 lengths on Djakadam.

3:25 Nichols Canyon
I think Annie Power will win and I think she's capable of winning quite comfortably. I would back NC w/o the fav but I'm not really a fan of that in jumps racing, especially at a meeting like Aintree. Would love to see Annie run to like 175 though and see what Ruby has to say about her taking on Faugheen next year then ha!

4:05 Pacha du Polder
Yeah sure ye know yereselves. Haha.

4:40 Bright New Dawn ew
Wearing headgear and he didn't at Cheltenham. Can't imagine they'd bring him over if they thought he had no chance. Alright price. Good enough for me.

5:15 Augusta Kate NAP
She's the same price here as she went off for the Champion Bumper where she ran a fine race. Back against her own sex on her ideal ground. The Greatrex yoke is way too short, Copper Kay prefers better ground and I don't know if Shattered Love would have the toe to win this.

Chesty08

posturingpat wrote: »

I'm feeling very worried about todays racing and suspect there could be quite a few upsets and will be keeping stakes to a minimum and having small e/w bets and maybe a little muggy e/w lucky 15 or lucky 31 for an interest.

1.40
Looks an open race and although i'm a big Sizing John fan i think 11/4 is a bit short as i think the better the ground the better his jumping is,i think the race is a lot more open than the betting suggests and Volnay De Thaix at 20/1 could surprise a few and get involved at the business end, had a nice debut over fences before getting stuck in the mud on heavy in January and then went over hurdles at Cheltenham when not enjoying carrying such a big weight. He's the highest rated of these over hurdles and is the least exposed chaser and i wouldn't be surprised if Henderson's been eyeing this race for a while.

2.15
Ivanovic Gorbatov is the best horse in the race of that i have little doubt but Joey got his target win with him at the Festival and 4 year old's can lose their form pretty quickly and again i'm going for a big outsider e/w.
Khezerabad ran a decent race in the Adonis on his first start over hurdles when he played the role of towing the main group into the race behind the front running Azzuri,i think he may have scuppered his won chances that day with how he was ridden and will improve for it on his second hurdles start and he's one of the few juveniles that didn't go to the festival which should also help.

2.50
Looks a 3 horse race on paper but i think they've each got questions to answer and Don Poli in particular i can't have,just don't think he's a top notch 3 miler, Djakadam had a tough race and Cue Card had a nasty fall.
The outsider e/w in this one is Taquin De Seuil, looked a really good Novice chaser winning the Jlt with the like of Uxizandre and Felix younger in behind,has had his issues since but came back with a nice win in a handicap chase prior to a staying on run in the Ryanair where he didn't have the toe to go with them early and made a few errors and i think this is his trip nowadays and wouldn't be surprised to see him sneak a place.

3.25
Annie should be winning this and i find it hard to oppose,particularly as i think Nichols canyons had a real tough season and he can't keep pulling out good runs and My Tent or yours will find it tough after such a good run after a long lay off and now upped in trip,dare i say it The New One could be the horse to take advantage if Annie has any slip ups.

4.05
Again i'm thinking there could be an upset and On the fringe will find it tough, Pacha Du Polder is all the rage after his run at the Festival after the apparent poor ride he got off Pendleton but i'd be in the opposte camp and think she gave him a peach of a ride albeit showing her lack of strength in a finish in the last furlong or 2. If i was forced to have a bet i might go for Major Malarkey, he front ran for a good bit at Cheltenham and if getting the lead here could be hard to peg back.

4.40
Minella present will win a handicap chase soon but i won't back until close to the time, if the ground's not a complete bog i'll be going in all guns blazing but if it is i might sit it out, think he's a plot all over and know Neil himself really fancied him for the Grand Annual and had kept him specifically for it but got balloted out.

5.15
Mares bumpers are far from an intriguing betting medium for me but one that could out run her odds is Shattered love, through her beating of Freeway space she's a better animal than Avellino who finished ahead of Copper Kay who's a few points shorter in the betting here and Avellino could arguably been a bit closer that day with a better ride.So Shattered love e/w could run a nice race.

I'm on Major Malarkey myself. Nice e/w price

superfurry1

Bouveril,Romain de Senam,Saphir du Rheu, The new one for me today.
Nicholls owes me from the festival:P

shmeee

Not going in heavy on much today.

Done a place accum with PP, 11.45, seems good value.

La Bague Au Roi @ 4/6
Place Only 3 Places
17:15 STANDARD OPEN NH FLAT (GRADE 2) 2m 209y

On The Fringe @ 2/5
Place Only 4 Places
16:05 CRABBIE'S FOX HUNTERS CHASE 2m 5f 19y

Don Poli @ 4/5
Place Only 3 Places
14:50 AINTREE BOWL CHASE (GRADE 1) (5YO+) 3m 210y

Apples Jade @ 8/11
Place Only 3 Places
14:15 ANNIVERSARY JUVENILE HURDLE (GRADE 1) 2m 209y

Sizing John @ 8/15
Place Only 3 Places
13:40 MANIFESTO NOVICES CHASE (GRADE 1) 2m 3f 200y

minibear

Sizing John

Romain De Senam

irish Cavalier

Camping Ground

Ockey de Neulliac

Katachenko

Bells on Sunday

My (eternally optimistic !) bets for today.

mailburner

shmeee wrote: »

Apples Jade @ 8/11
Place Only 3 Places
14:15 ANNIVERSARY JUVENILE HURDLE (GRADE 1) 2m 209y

that's the best 8/11 shot ive seen in some time
was planning on doing 11/8 two places if sizing john doesnt perform

krustydoyle

€5 accum for me

Sizing John
Footpad
Annie Power
Pacha Du Polder

Francie Barrett

Ivanovich Gorbatov, Djakadam, and Pacha Du Polder trixie. Think this is an unbelievable bet.

Joe_ Public

Some good write-ups here.

Sizing John wins the opener. When beaten, it's nearly always been behind Douvan, facing nothing of that calibre today. Worried how much the Arkle might have taken out of him, but most of his rivals face same question.

Footpad. Today's conditions will suit better than Cheltenham, think favourite will get done and most likely by Ruby.

Don Poli. Am a CC fan, but just think today might be the day for DP. Has c&d form which is a plus and, like many, feel he wasn't given the best chance possible to win the Gold Cup, still improving and a bit underrated I think.

shmeee

mailburner wrote: »

that's the best 8/11 shot ive seen in some time
was planning on doing 11/8 two places if sizing john doesnt perform

Some great value in the place market.

Hopefully I'll get a run for my money anyway.

Polo_Mint

This is mine for today

posturingpat

I hope that serves as a warning folks.

Francie Barrett

Mark Johnston's two year olds going great guns, this will be no exception I'd say.

paddy no 11

Result?

mailburner

1st 1 Arzal (FR) 4/1
2nd 5 L'Ami Serge (IRE) 9/2
3rd 7 Sizing John 11/4 f


3 of the first 4 in the betting fill the first three places...garde la v fell for anyone wondering
john jumped poorly but no faulting the winner..was nibbled at all day

krustydoyle

Emma Spencer is looking very well today

Peintre Celebre

Did an e/w yankee, Major Malarkey, Mattydillon and Pat Harkin at Limerick and Nichols Canyon


Easy

Johner

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Did an e/w yankee, Major Malarkey, Mattydillon and Pat Harkin at Limerick and Nichols Canyon


Easy

No chance.

mailburner

apples jade by a distance
1st 9 Apple's Jade (FR) 3/1
2nd 5 Ivanovich Gorbatov (IRE) 7/4 f
3rd 1 Azzuri 20/1


Winning TrainerW Mullins
Winning JockeyB Cooper
Runners 9 ran
Distances41, ½
Tote Win £3.60
Pl £1.30,£1.30,£3.90
EX £8.40
SF £8.65
Tricast £83.40

Peintre Celebre

My god that was impressive

Francie Barrett

Jesus - Apple Jade wins by a furlong.

Polo_Mint

1. Apples Jade

2 Ivanovich Gorbatov

3. Azzuri

shmeee

mailburner wrote: »

that's the best 8/11 shot ive seen in some time
was planning on doing 11/8 two places if sizing john doesnt perform

Had about a full furlong in hand to place

krustydoyle

She didn't half love the ground

Very very impressive

Wicklow Brave

She just travels through her races phenomenally well. That was impressive.

Peintre Celebre

Sorry if late internet acting up Apples Jade should win by half a furlong Ivanovich a max lay

saywhatyousee

Apples jade won by 41 lengths impressive

ben.schlomo

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Sorry if late internet acting up Apples Jade should win by half a furlong Ivanovich a max lay

Should be a good race, looking forward to it!!!!!!!!

mailburner

something similiar coming up bar a fall..cue card (maybe not quite that far)

ben36

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Sorry if late internet acting up Apples Jade should win by half a furlong Ivanovich a max lay

nostradamus like

Peintre Celebre

Wish they'd tell us what they're eating

naughto

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Wish they'd tell us what they're eating

Horsesh1te I'd say

shmeee

Don @ 5/4 w/o the top 2 PP, cracking bet.

BurtMacklin

Did anyone see Dragon Khan piss up in Limerick?

Peintre Celebre

Any bookie not giving four places on the Foxhunters are shocking. Very well done to Boylesports who not only are paying 3 places, but giving 1/5 of the odds