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ALDI milk for a Sick Calf

  • 02-04-2016 10:38pm
    #1
    Tomjim
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    Bought 5 calves last Thursday Week from a dealer 24/3/16. Am feeding milk replacer

    2 of the calves went off form and stomach has swollen up. Vet thinks is an upset stomach and advised me to feed pre rumien through the milk. I rang the dealer who told me that farmer (who is local to him) was feeding whole milk.

    I started feeding the 2 calves ALDI Milk. Will this be ok, they seem to have picked up a little.


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  • #2
    greysides
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    I wouldn't think it would be wholesome enough to yield adequate nutrition. Your method of feeding may be different to their original farm so that could be checked. Also make sure you make up the replacer exactly according to its instructions. Feed them regularly.

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  • #3
    Base price
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    Tomjim wrote: »
    Bought 5 calves last Thursday Week from a dealer 24/3/16. Am feeding milk replacer

    2 of the calves went off form and stomach has swollen up. Vet thinks is an upset stomach and advised me to feed pre rumien through the milk. I rang the dealer who told me that farmer (who is local to him) was feeding wholehave picked up a little.
    Processed milk from the supermarket shelf be it sourced from Aldi ,Lidl, or your local store does not contain the required fat and protein levels to rear a healthy suck calf.
    Did your calves have to switch suddenly from whole milk to milk replacer.
    If so I would add a pro biotic in the form of natural yoghurt such as http://glenisk.com/products/organic-low-fat-natural-yogurt or simular products available in most food stores.
    For the first time in nearly 30 years of rearing calves we also had serious problem with bloat in bought in calves.


  • #4
    _Brian
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    Natural youghert is a good job to settle a calfs stomach. Just not chilled, leave it to come to room temp at least.


  • #5
    whelan2
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    Tomjim wrote: »
    Bought 5 calves last Thursday Week from a dealer 24/3/16. Am feeding milk replacer

    2 of the calves went off form and stomach has swollen up. Vet thinks is an upset stomach and advised me to feed pre rumien through the milk. I rang the dealer who told me that farmer (who is local to him) was feeding whole milk.

    I started feeding the 2 calves ALDI Milk. Will this be ok, they seem to have picked up a little.
    could you source milk from a farmer?


  • #6
    patsy_mccabe
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    Base price wrote: »
    Processed milk from the supermarket shelf be it sourced from Aldi ,Lidl, or your local store does not contain the required fat and protein levels to rear a healthy suck calf.
    ......
    True. The good part is sold back to the farmer as Milk Replacer. Nuts, when you think about it.


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  • #7
    howdee
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    Is there a dairy herd nearby that you could get a few buckets of milk off till they come right? Some yogurt is very good for rumen function too.


  • #8
    Miname
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    Base price wrote: »
    Processed milk from the supermarket shelf be it sourced from Aldi ,Lidl, or your local store does not contain the required fat and protein levels to rear a healthy suck calf.
    Did your calves have to switch suddenly from whole milk to milk replacer.
    If so I would add a pro biotic in the form of natural yoghurt such as http://glenisk.com/products/organic-low-fat-natural-yogurt or simular products available in most food stores.
    For the first time in nearly 30 years of rearing calves we also had serious problem with bloat in bought in calves.

    What are you treating the calves with bloat with? I lost one a week back and I'm putting it down to a build up of replacer in around the teats. I had a second lad the next day and when I seen him all I could find in the house was gripe water and washing powder. He didn't look bad enough for the washing powder so I chanced the gripe water and it worked. I've never had it before.


  • #9
    Carrigogunnell
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    As well as other diseases bloat seems to a slight issue this year now most farmers will not be generally worried I know of several cases but no losses and different calves every time. I would give it vergetabe oil and this seem to work. Also vet said he has never seem as much bloat as this year.
    As regards buying calves and changing the diet when feeding milk powder I would slowly introduce so feed half the recommend amount and build it up over 4 days and make sure calves have access to fresh water at al times.


  • #10
    Base price
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    Miname wrote: »
    What are you treating the calves with bloat with? I lost one a week back and I'm putting it down to a build up of replacer in around the teats. I had a second lad the next day and when I seen him all I could find in the house was gripe water and washing powder. He didn't look bad enough for the washing powder so I chanced the gripe water and it worked. I've never had it before.
    Bread soda, 2 dessert spoons mixed with some warm water and dosed it too them. For severe cases I used liquid paraffin as well. Added yoghurt to the milk replacer as well. One lad was particularly bad and I had to bring him to the vet. She gave him an injection of buscopan. Made up yoghurt milk (whole milk) and fed him a litre 5 times a day. Had to dose it into him at the beginning cause he wouldn't suck and had him under the heat lamp. He is fine now.


  • #11
    crackcrack30
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    Sorry i'm a bit late to this ......when making yogurt mix can it be made with milk replacer cold and left to settle for 12 hours or does it have to be made up warm?

    Can you continue on from there making mixes 12hrs in advance?

    How long would a mix last? could you make say 2 days mix (4 feeds) in a container bin in a clean room temperture enviornment as this would suit my work commitments.?

    And finally is warm tap water ok for making up milk replacer feeds or do you guys boil water fresh....?

    i'm getting a few calves next week for the kids, i'm well set up with housing ect. just haven't fed calves since i was 5yo myself.

    Thanks...


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  • #12
    Base price
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    crackcrack30 wrote: »
    Sorry i'm a bit late to this ......when making yogurt mix can it be made with milk replacer cold and left to settle for 12 hours or does it have to be made up warm?

    Can you continue on from there making mixes 12hrs in advance?

    How long would a mix last? could you make say 2 days mix (4 feeds) in a container bin in a clean room temperture enviornment as this would suit my work commitments.?

    And finally is warm tap water ok for making up milk replacer feeds or do you guys boil water fresh....?

    i'm getting a few calves next week for the kids, i'm well set up with housing ect. just haven't fed calves since i was 5yo myself.

    Thanks...
    There is no problem feeding milk replacer to calves. It's a complete feed as long as it is mixed correctly, at the correct water temperature and volume. Read the mixing instructions on the bag that you buy and follow them.
    Some dairy farmers feed yogurt milk to their heifer calves as they have access to whole/sweet milk but it is not necessary. I have been feeding calves for over 30 years on calf milk replacer without any issues.
    Here is a link to a recent thread about making yogurt milk from milk replacer http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=99347206#post99347206


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