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Robot doctor overlords

  • 30-03-2016 3:15pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭


    How long before the hse use this to batter interns with ?

    "we'll replace you with an ipad and a bloke in india"

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/is-there-a-robot-in-the-house-meet-lucy-the-eyes-and-ears-of-the-hospital-34583075.html



    "It's all about efficiency. We cannot touch the patient and shake their hand, but our patients have got on board and are very satisfied. We can see a patient being examined by another doctor and take our visual cues from that."

    Normally, those patients who do not need resuscitation, and are not sent to the main emergency department, can wait up to three hours to be seen by a senior doctor after they are triaged and assessed. But Dr Lucy cuts out this delay.

    "It leads the patient to therapy quicker. In cases of acute appendicitis we can get them up to theatre earlier and discharged within 24 hours. That frees up two bed days."






    Dr Lucy costs around €2,600 and is low maintenance, apart from requiring a full battery to keep up her energy levels. She has already paid for herself within a few weeks, thanks to her work rate.




Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    Can they make a Luas driver? I mean they're halfway there with the name already...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    I'm sorry but this is insane. A doctor needs to see a patient, not talk to them or examine them through a 3 or 5 megapixel face-time camera.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    It opens up world class medical care to the world. Or at the very least could open up advanced medical care to places that can't afford it. Although I'm sure for the most part it will be used to make medical care that people in the western world can already afford more affordable.

    I'd rather put my life in the hands of a completely automated AI driven robot than one controlled by some guy on the other side of the planet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    it will be like robot wars when it stops to have a chat with the drunks and junkies in a&e


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    smash wrote: »
    I'm sorry but this is insane. A doctor needs to see a patient, not talk to them or examine them through a 3 or 5 megapixel face-time camera.

    ?

    be grand, they don't go wrong that often



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    maudgonner wrote: »
    Can they make a Luas driver? I mean they're halfway there with the name already...

    They already have automated subways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    They already have automated subways.
    Does it jump into your mouth and chew itself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    smash wrote: »
    I'm sorry but this is insane. A doctor needs to see a patient, not talk to them or examine them through a 3 or 5 megapixel face-time camera.

    OT but important, a phone camera can pick up retinoblastoma







  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Does it jump into your mouth and chew itself?

    Yes, And you want more and more due to all the MSG. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    "Beedleey Bop. Robo Doc has your diagnosis. Beeedleey Bop. Your body has limbs. People with AIDS also have limbs. Therefore you have AIDS. Beeddddleeey Bop."

    - I have AIDS? I just came in with a broken arm. Surely you've make a mistake.

    "Robo Doc doesn't make mistakes. Humans make mistakes. Also Robo Doc is on a break now. Beeeedley Bop. Beat it AIDS boy."

    .....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Hope this one wasn't designed by Microsoft!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    gctest50 wrote: »
    ?

    be grand, they don't go wrong that often


    You do of course realise this is a piece of surgical equipment that the doctor sits beside and operates with. It's just a tool, not an automated surgical robot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭newacc2015


    smash wrote: »
    I'm sorry but this is insane. A doctor needs to see a patient, not talk to them or examine them through a 3 or 5 megapixel face-time camera.

    I would agree with you. But there is a massive shortage of Doctors in this country. The Government havent made any serious attempts to increase Doctor numbers in the country. Why not use a computer which is a complement to Doctors? There will be no human error and it will save the tax payer money.

    These computers are already the norm in the US. These computers can keep up with medical changes, that human Doctors cant keep up with. They can suggest tests that Humans would never think about

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/03/the-robot-will-see-you-now/309216/

    Imagine applying big data to this. If you went to a robo Doctor with what you thought was a common cold. But the robo Doctor could see that in the area, there was an outbreak of swine flu and that the Doctor should do a test for that. The fact is data can track illnesses far better than any Doctor. The CDC uses google trends to track outbreaks of flu within US


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    You do of course realise this is a piece of surgical equipment that the doctor sits beside and operates with. It's just a tool, not an automated surgical robot.

    or sits in another country


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    gctest50 wrote: »
    or sits in another country

    That's not using the Da Vinci that you quoted.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    "So Mr patient, I have analysed all of your results, and I'm afraid my diagnosis is that your illness is not compatible with iOS 9.2"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Hope this one wasn't designed by Microsoft!

    It would endlessly try to install Windows 10 into the patient, like a demented Cyberman from Doctor Who.

    "You will be assimilated. You will be assimilated. With the great new features of Windows 10, more secure and more fun than ever before! Installing immediately..."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    That's not using the Da Vinci that you quoted.

    true - zeus ts

    Not like it's anything new, been at it since 2003

    13 years like

    Lidl will be selling them one of the days

    The Renowned heart surgeon and medical pioneer Dr. Michael E. DeBakey @ nasa


    http://i.imgur.com/zfvMj3P.jpg


    look at how happy he is
    Doctor 1,300 Miles Away Assists in Underwater Surgery

    10.20.2004

    A surgeon at a Canadian hospital helped perform a mock gallbladder operation in an underwater habitat off the Florida Keys used to train astronauts.

    http://www.nasa.gov/vision/space/preparingtravel/underwater_surgery.html




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,903 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    "Sorry Mr Smith you have...."

    System update.....java not installed....searching for updates....battery low, plug in to keep using....shutting down.

    Hello, hello....ah fcuk it, I'll take a couple of paracetamol be grand.


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