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Help from braising experts...

  • 27-03-2016 5:06pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,560 ✭✭✭


    Hi folks,

    Just finished dinner - braised leg of lamb. This was a joint around 1.1kg of lamb leg (filleted, but with bone in). Seared in the pan, then added to around 2l of stock/water with veg etc, and cooked at 150 in a fan oven for around 4 hours. Is that too long...?

    I think it is because the lamb was a little drier than I hoped for and didn't really fall off the bone. The other think I have is that I didn't cover the meat in the oven. Should I have?

    Thanks!


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Yeah, that was way too long. Four hours might have been necessary for a leg that was 3-4 times the size of yours, and the temperature should have been about 130 fan at that.

    I've checked similar recipes online, and for legs of lamb that are 3-5 kg, the recipes from 2.5-4 hours cooking time.

    For a 1.1kg leg of lamb, I'd typically roast it. It's too small to need much else, IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭Mrs Fox


    I sent the husband to get shoulder of lamb for me to braise as I had looked at a particular recipe yesterday, but he got two shanks instead.
    The recipe stated for a 2.5kg shoulder on the bone needs 4-5 hours in a 140c oven, covered tightly with foil, and only to remove the foil and cook uncovered for the last 45 minutes.

    With the shanks I got, totalling 1.2kg, I braised in the oven for just under 2.5 hours at 150c. They fell off the bone just nicely.
    Nothing wrong with braising smaller meat, just adjust the temp and time, but 4 hours at your temp was definitely way too long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,560 ✭✭✭Prenderb


    Thanks! That makes sense. Second time lucky.... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    To be honest, I think the biggest problem with the op's dish was the fact it wasn't covered. If cooking for 4 hours I might have dropped tempted to 130-140 but low and slow cooking is very forgiving provided you cover well and it has enough time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,817 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    I did a 2kg leg of lamb at the weekend. 20 mins at 230C, then added stock, covered tightly with foil & braised for 4 hours at 120C. Rested for 45 mins. Was falling off the bone & deliciously moist.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I'm shocked anyone would braise a leg of.lamb. It's far too good a piece of meat to braise IMO. Braising is for meat like shanks, that's no good for roasting or grilling.

    But to answer the question, braising must be done covered.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,817 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    I tend to agree. But Mrs B & The Kids don't go for pink lamb & prefer it well done. Braising is a happy medium for me as we end up with well done but still tender & moist meat.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I tend to agree. But Mrs B & The Kids don't go for pink lamb & prefer it well done. Braising is a happy medium for me as we end up with well done but still tender & moist meat.

    My approach was to just keep serving my wife pink lamb. She finally broke and now only eats medium rare lamb.

    A trick that works with pink beef is to have a pot of beef stock on the hob. Slice the beef and dip it in the pot for 30 seconds. It's still actually cooked medium but the pink I'd hidden by the stock. I do it when I roast beef for philistines. May work with lamb.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,817 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Mrs B is rather a strong-willed woman who knows exactly how she likes her lamb done.

    "The lady is not for turning." :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,110 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dizzyblonde


    I'm with Mrs. Billy, I like my lamb well done and God help anyone who tried to pull the wool over my eyes by trying to hide the pinkness of a lesser cooked roast.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,753 ✭✭✭sudzs


    I did a 2kg leg of lamb at the weekend. 20 mins at 230C, then added stock, covered tightly with foil & braised for 4 hours at 120C. Rested for 45 mins. Was falling off the bone & deliciously moist.

    Hoping to do the same with pork shoulder today, (1.80 kg) are those temps for a fan oven? Also the pork is in one of those butchers elastic nets, should I leave it on? I don't like those nets but it's off the bone so I wonder if the meat would be a bit all over the place out of the net.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,817 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Sorry, sudz- only seeing this now. Yes, temps for fan oven.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,753 ✭✭✭sudzs


    Sorry, sudz- only seeing this now. Yes, temps for fan oven.

    No probs! :) I went ahead and used your temps for the pork, only difference was I uncovered it for last 20 minutes and turned up the heat to 160. Have to say it was bloody delicious! Will definitely do it again. :D Also, I took off that nasty butchers stocking thing and it was a good solid piece of meat!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    sudzs wrote: »
    No probs! :) I went ahead and used your temps for the pork, only difference was I uncovered it for last 20 minutes and turned up the heat to 160. Have to say it was bloody delicious! Will definitely do it again. :D Also, I took off that nasty butchers stocking thing and it was a good solid piece of meat!

    Did you buy a boned shoulder?

    If so, you should try a bone in shoulder next time. Serious eating.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,753 ✭✭✭sudzs


    Brian? wrote: »
    Did you buy a boned shoulder?

    If so, you should try a bone in shoulder next time. Serious eating.

    No bone, might try it on the bone next time. :)


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