Dog Poisoned in Blackrock

henryporter

Luckily he was rushed to the vets and survived - this is mainly a warning to anyone walking their dogs in Blackrock - this was down around the Priests beach. Vet couldn't say whether the poison was natural eg blue-green algal bloom or chemical eg weed killers, raw sewerage, or something more malevolent. In any event keep the dogs on the leads round that area and make sure they don't drink the sea water or go rooting around looking for food - our silly mutt also eats grass so make sure they don't do that either.

event

So was the dog poisoned or did he eat something that may have had poison on it?

henryporter

event wrote: »

So was the dog poisoned or did he eat something that may have had poison on it?

Maybe a thanks would be more suitable than a bit of bullsh!t nit picking - if you had read the post you would see that it could have been either - also if you kept an eye on Talk of the Town recently you would also see that it could have been either. Either way you're very welcome.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

henryporter wrote: »

Maybe a thanks would be more suitable than a bit of bullsh!t nit picking - if you had read the post you would see that it could have been either - also if you kept an eye on Talk of the Town recently you would also see that it could have been either. Either way you're very welcome.

But accidental poisoning can happen anywhere anytime. It's one of the reasons you always make sure your dog doesn't eat anything you don't give it, particularly when out walking.

henryporter

So instead of maybe letting people know that there's additional risk of an animal either accidentally or purposefully being poisoned I should just keep quiet, just to avoid being judged - serves me right for being helpful :rolleyes:

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

henryporter wrote: »

So instead of maybe letting people know that there's additional risk of an animal either accidentally or purposefully being poisoned I should just keep quiet, just to avoid being judged - serves me right for being helpful :rolleyes:

I think you're been over sensitive to perfectly civil replies and questions.

henryporter

Ronnie Gorgeous Alfalfa wrote: »

I think you're been over sensitive to perfectly civil replies and questions.

Whereas I think you and the other poster have been insensitive by insinuating that there's either some other agenda or that I don't know how to look after an animal in my care. Bottom line was a warning to others using the area to be careful - no need to dissect it in order to maintain the keyboard warrior edge.

Nesta99

Ronnie Gorgeous Alfalfa wrote: »

I think you're been over sensitive to perfectly civil replies and questions.

I think it was a cynical maybe even snide comment by event, it certainly was daft! "Was the dog poisoned or did he eat something that had poison on it".... eh same difference - the dog was poisoned, its unclear whether it was accidental, incidental, or sinister. As dog owner in the area the heads up is appreciated an I will duly take additional care. Bloody nuisance though as the dog is a Springer Spaniel that likes nothing more than getting off the lead and plodding around in the wettest, muckiest places there are and belting it through long grass. Smell in the boot of the care after annoys the hell out of the GF:D

bpmurray

Wow, complete over-reaction. The question was very simple and required a simple answer - was this as a result of some demonic dog-hater who slipped something nasty into fido's dinner, or was it a random piece of something the dog should not have eaten? Very simple and definitely deserved a polite answer, not hysterical shrieking.

Nesta99

henryporter wrote: »

Luckily he was rushed to the vets and survived - this is mainly a warning to anyone walking their dogs in Blackrock - this was down around the Priests beach. Vet couldn't say whether the poison was natural eg blue-green algal bloom or chemical eg weed killers, raw sewerage, or something more malevolent. In any event keep the dogs on the leads round that area and make sure they don't drink the sea water or go rooting around looking for food - our silly mutt also eats grass so make sure they don't do that either.

Doesnt this answer things? Why there was an (over)reaction and why I initially questioned the purpose of the eh question. No matter, the dog is let lose in a field now that the farmer kindly said he didnt mind so less mud for now so less smell and most importantly safe.

BlueLass

Read today that LSPCA are concerned there may a serial poisoner of dogs active on navvy bank!! Don't understand the logic of wanting to harm other living creatures myself but it takes all sorts to make world go round!!

event

henryporter wrote: »

Maybe a thanks would be more suitable than a bit of bullsh!t nit picking - if you had read the post you would see that it could have been either - also if you kept an eye on Talk of the Town recently you would also see that it could have been either. Either way you're very welcome.

Wow, slight over reaction.

Thanks for the warning though, it wasn't in any way vague or anything

BettePorter

event wrote:

Thanks for the warning though, it wasn't in any way vague or anything

It wasn't remotely vague. The OP simply came on to his local forum to give fellow dog owners the heads up about a possible issue in a certain area. He stated that the vet didn't know if was A or B. So your question was moot and really only asked as a dig at the wording of his thread title.

Its replies like those that make people such as the OP not to bother posting the next time.

blackpearl

BlueLass wrote: »

Read today that LSPCA are concerned there may a serial poisoner of dogs active on navvy bank!! Don't understand the logic of wanting to harm other living creatures myself but it takes all sorts to make world go round!!

I walk my hunting dogs on the navy bank will be staying away from their how many cases of poisoned dogs were their,some sick people out their.

rogieop

Where are good spots to go with the dog that you can let them off the lead nowadays? i Used to go to the beach in blackrock but been struggling to get out there recently and this thread hasnt put me in any form for going. Cant go down the Navy bank now either due to the spate of poisonings....

BlueLass

rogieop wrote: »

Where are good spots to go with the dog that you can let them off the lead nowadays? i Used to go to the beach in blackrock but been struggling to get out there recently and this thread hasnt put me in any form for going. Cant go down the Navy bank now either due to the spate of poisonings....

I used to take my dog to ravensdale, used to love getting lost in the forest for a few hours but ever since the car got broken into I don't go near it any more! Ice house hill is a good walk also, great for chasing his tennis ball on a string.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

BlueLass wrote: »

I used to take my dog to ravensdale, used to love getting lost in the forest for a few hours but ever since the car got broken into I don't go near it any more! Ice house hill is a good walk also, great for chasing his tennis ball on a string.

I thought the Bye laws at Ice House Hill stated dogs must be kept on the leash.

henryporter

Ronnie Gorgeous Alfalfa wrote: »

I thought the Bye laws at Ice House Hill stated dogs must be kept on the leash.

New bye-laws in Co. Louth in force since the 16th March 2016 require all dogs to be on a leash in a public place anywhere in the County: http://www.louthcoco.ie/en/Louth_County_Council/Bye_Laws_of_Council/Louth-Co-Co-Dog-Litter-and-Dog-Control-Bye-Laws-2015.pdf. Doesn't seem to have made any difference so far...

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

henryporter wrote: »

New bye-laws in Co. Louth in force since the 16th March 2016 require all dogs to be on a leash in a public place anywhere in the County: http://www.louthcoco.ie/en/Louth_County_Council/Bye_Laws_of_Council/Louth-Co-Co-Dog-Litter-and-Dog-Control-Bye-Laws-2015.pdf. Doesn't seem to have made any difference so far...

And carry receptacles for dog poop as well, I see.

Glad I have my fields to run a dog in, because it now appears you can be fined for letting a dog run anywhere but on your own property.

henryporter

Ronnie Gorgeous Alfalfa wrote: »

And carry receptacles for dog poop as well, I see.

Glad I have my fields to run a dog in, because it now appears you can be fined for letting a dog run anywhere but on your own property.

Maybe you could rent your fields out for peop0le to run their dogs in. It's a step too far in my opinion, and as for the number of bags to carry - 1 for when they do the business, a spare and maybe another spare in case you get lucky enough to find a bin for the first bag - bureaucracy gone mad as usual!

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

henryporter wrote: »

Maybe you could rent your fields out for peop0le to run their dogs in. It's a step too far in my opinion, and as for the number of bags to carry - 1 for when they do the business, a spare and maybe another spare in case you get lucky enough to find a bin for the first bag - bureaucracy gone mad as usual!

I don't fully agree. I think it's a good thing and in line, generally, with responsible dog ownership. I don't have a problem with it personally, as I never let a dog loose in a public place and always carry a roll of bags when walking a dog.

henryporter

Ronnie Gorgeous Alfalfa wrote: »

I don't fully agree. I think it's a good thing and in line, generally, with responsible dog ownership. I don't have a problem with it personally, as I never let a dog loose in a public place and always carry a roll of bags when walking a dog.

Always carry bags too - but letting the dog off for a run in St Helena's park to chase a stick every now and then should still be acceptable.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

henryporter wrote: »

Always carry bags too - but letting the dog off for a run in St Helena's park to chase a stick every now and then should still be acceptable.

Not if there's a chance of anybody else being about. I have seen many people who are afraid of dogs and it's terrifying for some to see a loose dog in the park. I don't know the answer, unless we go the way of some cities where there are enclosed areas set aside for dogs to have a run .

Titzon Toast

Sorry for going OT here but, I've recently just discovered Blackrock for myself (I've started working around there) and it's a lovely place altogether, some lovely houses and some very nice people too.

rogieop

BlueLass wrote: »

I used to take my dog to ravensdale, used to love getting lost in the forest for a few hours but ever since the car got broken into I don't go near it any more! Ice house hill is a good walk also, great for chasing his tennis ball on a string.

I use ice househill the odd time myself but always have to keep the dog on the leash.She is young and gets excited and isnt always too willing to come back!! Anyway tried there this morning at 9am thinking there would be no one else about and i could let her have a wander but the gates were locked.

Looks like ravensdale is the only real option. Not really worried about anyone breaking into my car as long as they promise to either burn it out or take it with them!!

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

rogieop wrote: »

I use ice househill the odd time myself but always have to keep the dog on the leash.She is young and gets excited and isnt always too willing to come back!! Anyway tried there this morning at 9am thinking there would be no one else about and i could let her have a wander but the gates were locked.

Looks like ravensdale is the only real option. Not really worried about anyone breaking into my car as long as they promise to either burn it out or take it with them!!

By law now you'll have to keep her on the leash in Ravensdale too.

rogieop

Ronnie Gorgeous Alfalfa wrote: »

By law now you'll have to keep her on the leash in Ravensdale too.

Of all the (ridiculous)laws i break on a daily/weekly/monthly basis... this will be the least of my worries!

blackpearl

henryporter wrote: »

New bye-laws in Co. Louth in force since the 16th March 2016 require all dogs to be on a leash in a public place anywhere in the County: http://www.louthcoco.ie/en/Louth_County_Council/Bye_Laws_of_Council/Louth-Co-Co-Dog-Litter-and-Dog-Control-Bye-Laws-2015.pdf. Doesn't seem to have made any difference so far...

allways run my dogs on the beach well out on strand ,does anyone no what clowns on the council supported this law , don't care will still run my dogs on the beach,what next a ban on all dogs been kept.

bpmurray

That new law is much worse that you seem to realise. Paragraph (b)(iv) says:

any premises, walkway, public park, public open space, outdoor area, or other place to which members of the public have or are permitted to have access, whether as of right or as a trespasser or otherwise, or by express or implied permission, or whether on payment or otherwise,

In other words, in any outdoor area around your house (your garden) or where you keep your animals (your farm), to which trespassers have access, you must have your dog on a leash.

Paragraph (b)(v) says:

any foreshore, beach or coastal waters within or adjoining the administrative area of Louth County Council

So if your dogs want to go for a swim in Louth (or adjoining Meath), they must be on a leash. I have 2 labradors - I can't imaging them swimming on the end of a leash, and I have no intention of jumping into the water with them in the depths of winter either.

Mr Magnolia

I've a dog myself and always have had. All dogs should be kept on a leash in a public place be it beach, park or forest. Dog owners need to accept that some people and children are afraid of dogs and the sight of a dog running free regularly puts people off a walk or sends their heart cross-ways if they're already out and about.

OP, thanks for the heads-up, you're not the first person I've heard effected by this. Hope the dog is ok.

bpmurray wrote: »

In other words, in any outdoor area around your house (your garden) or where you keep your animals (your farm), to which trespassers have access, you must have your dog on a leash.

That's nuts.

bob2oo7

I'm all for the changes... everyone should be carrying bags etc. to pick up after their dogs... however...

They really need to supply more bins around town, I have often walked for 5/10/15 minutes and sometimes out of my way trying to find a bin

It can be a nightmare with buggy's and kids in tow.. especially if I have to cross the road to get one.

Nesta99

bpmurray wrote: »

That new law is much worse that you seem to realise. Paragraph (b)(iv) says:

In other words, in any outdoor area around your house (your garden) or where you keep your animals (your farm), to which trespassers have access, you must have your dog on a leash.

Thats is daft and the end to the concept of a guard dog. Wonder if it extends to trespassers in a house where a dog is kept? How the bye-law would stand up to scrutiny if a dog takes a lump out of some unwelcome 'visitor' in a locked up area but off a lead.

As for bins, I never really noticed a shortage tbh. I will say that one of the most disgusting things ive seen were dog poop bins on the promenade in Southend, England. The bins weren't emptied over the weekend from 5pm Friday so they overflowed and then owners just chucked bags of sh*te or emptied their scoop at the base of the bin. There was a few of them and on a warm day the stink was dreadful and no amount of complaints seemed to make a difference. Just as an aside...:o

henryporter

Nesta99 wrote: »

Thats is daft and the end to the concept of a guard dog. Wonder if it extends to trespassers in a house where a dog is kept? How the bye-law would stand up to scrutiny if a dog takes a lump out of some unwelcome 'visitor' in a locked up area but off a lead.

As for bins, I never really noticed a shortage tbh. I will say that one of the most disgusting things ive seen were dog poop bins on the promenade in Southend, England. The bins weren't emptied over the weekend from 5pm Friday so they overflowed and then owners just chucked bags of sh*te or emptied their scoop at the base of the bin. There was a few of them and on a warm day the stink was dreadful and no amount of complaints seemed to make a difference. Just as an aside...:o

I've seen the overflowing bins on the Navy Bank at times too, so not just Southend having that problem.

As for lack of bins, theres zero on Castle Road, St. Marys Road, or Mill Street, yet there's 2 within 30 metres of each other at Seatown and Chapel Street, so it looks to be a case of the proverbial left and right hands lack of familiarity with each other vis Local Authority provision. Normally end up taking the baggies home to own own bin. However as other people say, if they insist on a law requiring removal of dog waste, they should provide for it.

blackpearl

Ronnie Gorgeous Alfalfa wrote: »

By law now you'll have to keep her on the leash in Ravensdale too.

I go hunting in a lot of these places so they can stick their leashes up their well you know the rest.Iasked a question a while back does anyone know the assholes that voted for this on the council.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

blackpearl wrote: »

I go hunting in a lot of these places so they can stick their leashes up their well you know the rest.Iasked a question a while back does anyone know the assholes that voted for this on the council.

If it bothers you so much you can request the details from the council. And maybe keep your anger for them, rather than those who just explained the situation here

rogieop

Ronnie Gorgeous Alfalfa wrote: »

If it bothers you so much you can request the details from the council. And maybe keep your anger for them, rather than those who just explained the situation here

The anger was hardly directed at anybody on here. Relax.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

rogieop wrote: »

The anger was hardly directed at anybody on here. Relax.

Not that it matters to you, but he quoted me and I felt it directed at me.

gozunda

henryporter wrote: »

Maybe you could rent your fields out for peop0le to run their dogs in. It's a step too far in my opinion, and as for the number of bags to carry - 1 for when they do the business, a spare and maybe another spare in case you get lucky enough to find a bin for the first bag - bureaucracy gone mad as usual!

Pet stores now sell clip on rolls of handy bags that you or the dog can carry (clip to collar). Saves having to fish around for bags

blackpearl

Ronnie Gorgeous Alfalfa wrote: »

Not that it matters to you, but he quoted me and I felt it directed at me.

Sorry if you thought it was directed at you it was not ,it was against them assholes on the council that have nothing better to do than pass stupid laws against the people who pay their wages.

Mr Magnolia

Surely you're not hunting in public places?

blackpearl

Mr Magnolia wrote: »

Surely you're not hunting in public places?

the foreshore which I have a foreshore licence for and parts of ravenstale why have you a problem with that.

Mr Magnolia

blackpearl wrote: »

the foreshore which I have a foreshore licence for and parts of ravenstale why have you a problem with that.

I don't if you're operating within the terms of the licence no. The council have a problem with you allowing your dog(s) off their leash now though don't they?

blackpearl

I could not care less about what the council say ,it would fit them better if they concreted on more important issues .

Mr Magnolia

I agree. I don't think the bylaws will be adhered to until prosecutions cement peoples thoughts and attitudes on the matter.

FlipperThePriest

It would appear some peoples' views are set in stone.

doncarlos

BlueLass wrote: »

Read today that LSPCA are concerned there may a serial poisoner of dogs active on navvy bank!! Don't understand the logic of wanting to harm other living creatures myself but it takes all sorts to make world go round!!

My mother was walking the dog down the navy bank at the weekend and met some lad who was warning her that his dog had been poisoned down there with rat poison. She said he was nearly crying when he was telling the story. Touch and go if the dog will make it. She just turned around and went somewhere else. Definitely sounds like something happening down there.

BlueLass

doncarlos wrote: »

My mother was walking the dog down the navy bank at the weekend and met some lad who was warning her that his dog had been poisoned down there with rat poison. She said he was nearly crying when he was telling the story. Touch and go if the dog will make it. She just turned around and went somewhere else. Definitely sounds like something happening down there.

Incredibly heartbreaking to hear such stories and so frustrating that nothing seems to be happening to catch whoever is doing it! Surely it should be well publicised on radio, local newspapers, notices or warning signs put up advising everyone to watch for suspicious activity! Has any complaint been made to gardai, any follow ups that anyone is aware of??

Nesta99

blackpearl wrote: »

I could not care less about what the council say ,it would fit them better if they concreted on more important issues .

Dog owners are being ridden rock solid by these bye laws, to quote an old football pundit.

Seriously though it is worrying if there are so many poisoning incidents. It needs to be publicised, although thats possibly the attention a culprit may seek, to be a bit CSI about it assuming it is deliberate.

blackpearl

Their is talk and I say talk that someone in a estate close to the navy bank is doing it because they are fed up of all the dog s--t in their gardens, I know if I catch the scumbag that is doing it well I hope they can swim.

10green bottles

The Dundalk Democrat front page headline on March 15th was "Navvy Bank dog poisoner warning"

In the article Fiona Squibb from the LSPCA said "dog owners should remain vigilant regarding the threats to their dogs - it's not something you'd expect taking a dog down a scenic walk.......i have heard of this before.I think it was a year ago'There was something down there somewhere......"

Further on in the article Ms.Squibb says "I know there has been an outcry down the Navvy Bank regarding dog fouling and i don't know if that is what someone might be feeling annoyance about - there are new by-laws and signs for people who don't clean up after their dogs"

More -

http://talkofthetown.ie/2016/03/14/warning-issued-to-animal-owners-after-claims-another-dog-was-poisoned-at-navvy-bank/

http://talkofthetown.ie/2015/09/30/warning-issued-over-possible-poison-left-close-to-navvy-bank/

10green bottles

County council caretaker prosecuted for laying the poison that killed the dog at the County hall.
http://www.independent.ie/regionals/argus/news/banned-poison-laid-by-caretaker-34620338.html