'Great' Ireland run 2016

Krusty_Clown

So I must have signed up at some stage (have a vague recollection) and received my number in the post this morning. The only reason I would participate in this race is because it is part of the national 10k championships. But... my race number is orange and I got it in the post. So I'm guessing that I'm not registered as part of the national champs. Anyone know if it is possible to change or check this, or should I just take it as a sign?

adrian522

The national championship numbers have to be collected on the morning of the race so looks like you are not registered for that. No idea if they'll change this for you though.

Krusty_Clown

adrian522 wrote: »

The national championship numbers have to be collected on the morning of the race so looks like you are not registered for that. No idea if they'll change this for you though.

Yeah, that's what I figured. There doesn't seem to be anyone contactable in relation to this. I've fired off an e-mail to the Great Run e-mail address, but reckon I have zero chance of a positive outcome. That's the difference between a race organized by a faceless corporation and a club race.

adrian522

At least the orange start is with the AAI entrants. Or at least it seems to say that on the website.

Krusty_Clown

adrian522 wrote: »

At least the orange start is with the AAI entrants. Or at least it seems to say that on the website.

Yeah, I'm not interested in the starting coral. Just whether or not I'm entered into the national champs. Cheers anyway. Will see what they come back with (not expecting a reply).

demfad

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Yeah, I'm not interested in the starting coral. Just whether or not I'm entered into the national champs. Cheers anyway. Will see what they come back with (not expecting a reply).

If no reply, I would go via your club. They will have an open channel with the AAI contact.
You should definately run in the national champs. I cant say if it is for sure possible to change it, but I would suggest it probably is as the situation must have happened on many occasions already.

Timmaay

demfad wrote: »

If no reply, I would go via your club. They will have an open channel with the AAI contact.
You should definately run in the national champs. I cant say if it is for sure possible to change it, but I would suggest it probably is as the situation must have happened on many occasions already.

I'll look into it for ya KC

Krusty_Clown

Cheers guys. Early indications suggest that I was completely wrong in my assumptions, and I received a timely and helpful response from my inquiry:

Thank you for your email
You have not entered through the AAI entry stream
We cannot get your entry changed to AAI as you have already received your running pack. However if you come and see us at our information point prior to the event we can get this changed over for you. We will be open between Thursday the 7th of April – Saturday the 9th of April. Our location and opening hours will be available online very soon.

Phoole

I signed up for the 5k by accident. Ah well!

micar

I initially signed up for the 10km standard race not realising there was a separate race for the AAI championships.

I contacted the organisers who advised that they would cancel the initial registration so that I can re register for the AAI championship race.

I have just re registered for the AAI race.

Phoebas

Is anyone who signed up for this still waiting for their number / race pack?

I was late signing up - about 10 days ago and I haven't received my number yet.

adrian522

If you signed up for the AAI race you need to collect it on the weekend of the race. If not it should have arrived. If it doesn't come today maybe get in contact?

averagejoe123

Phoebas wrote: »

Is anyone who signed up for this still waiting for their number / race pack?

I was late signing up - about 10 days ago and I haven't received my number yet.

I signed up just there and because I missed the registration cut off I have to either collect in in Lifestyle Tallagh Weds-Friday next week or else in PP from 10am on race day.

micar

Does anyone know if the race numbers for the AAI national championships can be picked up from lifestyle sport from Thursday instead of Sunday morning in the park?

I read the race briefing on the website and there is no mention of collection/ pick up of numbers for this rave.

happygoose

Krusty, would you mind posting or pm'ing me details of who to contact in AAI with a request to change an entry to the National Championships? A colleague did the same and wants to change it. Cheers!

Krusty_Clown

happygoose wrote: »

Krusty, would you mind posting or pm'ing me details of who to contact in AAI with a request to change an entry to the National Championships? A colleague did the same and wants to change it. Cheers!

Hey happygoose, won't unfortunately make the race myself, as I've given myself a hamstring problem that I have to nurse this week, so I never completed the process. The message I got was as follows:

We cannot get your entry changed to AAI as you have already received your running pack. However if you come and see us at our information point prior to the event we can get this changed over for you. We will be open between Thursday the 7th of April – Saturday the 9th of April. Our location and opening hours will be available online very soon

So I would assume that you would need to send your colleague to the Lifestyle sports pick-up point in Blanchardstown to talk to the GIR/AAI folks there. I wouldn't travel without first making sure they could sort you out though. The e-mail address I used was: info@greatrun.org

adrian522

micar wrote: »

Does anyone know if the race numbers for the AAI national championships can be picked up from lifestyle sport from Thursday instead of Sunday morning in the park?

I read the race briefing on the website and there is no mention of collection/ pick up of numbers for this rave.

If you entered after 10am on Wednesday 23 March you will need to collect your pack from the address below at the times stated, this includes all AAI run packs.
Thursday 7th – Saturday 9th April the information point will be based in the Lifestyle Sports Shop in Blanchardstown Fashion Retail Park (Unit 425).
Opening hours are: Thursday: 1pm – 9pm, Friday: 10am – 7pm, Saturday: 10am – 4pm. No entries will be taken on event day.

http://greatirelandrun.org/

happygoose

Sorry to hear about the injury Thanks for that though, lucky enough we're in the vicinity of the Blanch centre.

Sacksian

Just looking at the national 10k entries on the AI website, I'm wondering if numbers for the club race are down from last year? Or whether it's related to the registration issues, or just scheduling.

There are a few clubs that have entered a lot of people (like Rathfarnham) but then you have Clonliffe with a grand total of 3. A lot of the names I'd usually look out for in the men's senior or master's competition don't appear to be in the entries.

youngrun

Sacksian wrote: »

Just looking at the national 10k entries on the AI website, I'm wondering if numbers for the club race are down from last year? Or whether it's related to the registration issues, or just scheduling.

There are a few clubs that have entered a lot of people (like Rathfarnham) but then you have Clonliffe with a grand total of 3. A lot of the names I'd usually look out for in the men's senior or master's competition don't appear to be in the entries.

Would think so yes , all jumbled up so hard to know, our club def down in numbers also. Think its a trend across races and the sport in general unfortunately. Things like marathons also taking some away, Rotterdam, Manchester, Connemara, intervarsities next week and local road races also .

Sacksian

youngrun wrote: »

Would think so yes , all jumbled up so hard to know, our club def down in numbers also. Think its a trend across races and the sport in general unfortunately. Things like marathons also taking some away, Rotterdam, Manchester, Connemara, intervarsities next week and local road races also .

I would previously have supported the idea that if AI are getting enough money from co-locating the national 10k with the GIR, it's worth it.

However, 10k is a distance where there should be fierce competition in this country - I'm thinking of the depth of senior Interclubs (you'd also get more club runners who opt out of xc + the marathon runners).

If there's a couple of years of thin depth, they should rethink it - instead of co-locating the National Champs with commercial events, take the money from them and hold the national events separately (maybe as part of established club races).

youngrun

Think they get a decent fee from it alright AI. Not sure what their involvement is bar hosting National in it which gives it a level of prestige and decent times etc. Would probably get the same numbers running as a National anywhere in country bar the real outposts. Its not bad scheduling though compared to the National half which is a joke to get to if you are outside Dublin, 200 quid cost odd to travel and stay up per head? should be the first one to be canned

runnter

Doing this race on Sunday, it's my first race in years; I generally train well but something always seems to go wrong in the build up to a goal race!!

Any tips for the course? I see the 2nd half is very tough is it best to conserve energy for then? I'm so nervous!!

youngrun

runnter wrote: »

Doing this race on Sunday, it's my first race in years; I generally train well but something always seems to go wrong in the build up to a goal race!!

Any tips for the course? I see the 2nd half is very tough is it best to conserve energy for then? I'm so nervous!!

Yeah second half a lot slower than first probably a minute slower second half for a 40min runner. V v fast first half and downhill so keep plenty in reserve, the three sets of climbs in the second half really need stamina and doggedness to get up. last k v flat and fast and you can smoke a few guys on this if you have anything left. good luck.

Stablemaster

runnter wrote: »

Doing this race on Sunday, it's my first race in years; I generally train well but something always seems to go wrong in the build up to a goal race!!

Any tips for the course? I see the 2nd half is very tough is it best to conserve energy for then? I'm so nervous!!

what is your number so we can see how you get on?

runnter

I don't have my number yet, have to collect it on the day. Don't worry I'm not worth tracking.

davedanon

youngrun wrote: »

Yeah second half a lot slower than first probably a minute slower second half for a 40min runner. V v fast first half and downhill so keep plenty in reserve, the three sets of climbs in the second half really need stamina and doggedness to get up. last k v flat and fast and you can smoke a few guys on this if you have anything left. good luck.

Yeah, agree with that. Was just checking on my pb run, done on this course and just under 40min. Was 19.33 for the first 5k, so almost exactly a minute slower over the hilly section.

hawkwing

Not even on RTE this year as "Gok's fashion fix" is on instead.That is the first time in over 10yrs they have not shown it live.:(
Any mention of the elites, if there is any?Gemma Steel seems to be just coming back from injury so unlikely to be there.

Mos Eisley

Hi

Running my first National 10k on Sunday. I'm not overly familiar with the Phoenix park so could you advice where is the best place to park coming from the west? I plan to enter the park from the Chapelizod rd. Just trying to plan my journey and gauge what time I need to leave home.

Thanks for your help

youngrun

davedanon wrote: »

Yeah, agree with that. Was just checking on my pb run, done on this course and just under 40min. Was 19.33 for the first 5k, so almost exactly a minute slower over the hilly section.

yeah similar have a PB here , funny enough despite the second half toughness I think its the downhill first half and the fact its so competitive with many runners sub 40 that you can run a PB on it , my best 34.20 was 16.55 at 5k and 17.25 back , so 30 seconds despite flying in the second half. It really is a pig of a second half though never will you suffer as much !

average_runner

youngrun wrote: »

Would think so yes , all jumbled up so hard to know, our club def down in numbers also. Think its a trend across races and the sport in general unfortunately. Things like marathons also taking some away, Rotterdam, Manchester, Connemara, intervarsities next week and local road races also .

Also clashes with the k-club 10k which is a better race, so it takes alot of West Dublin out of it

youngrun

average_runner wrote: »

Also clashes with the k-club 10k which is a better race, so it takes alot of West Dublin out of it

But the GIR is the National 10k championships why would anyone not do that if they were serious about running ?

Krusty_Clown

youngrun wrote: »

But the GIR is the National 10k championships why would anyone not do that if they were serious about running ?

It's a fair question. I had signed up for the GIR, entirely because it was the national 10k, and was looking forward to competing in that competition, but I have significant dislike for the race (even though the GIR was my first ever race of any description). Like the RnR, I don't believe that the national level race should be tagged onto a mass-participation race, but should be a standalone club-organized race, much like the national half marathon used to be, before the arrival of the big '$'.

Apart from that, it's not a very fast race. So if your training is geared at running the best possible 10k time you can, the K-Club (which has a reputation as a very fast flat course) would be a better target. Ideally, I'd have done both (one for the time-based target and the other for the national competition), but unfortunately the K-Club was re-scheduled and as such conflicted with the national 10k. As a result, I'd have done the national 10k, and gone looking for another fast 10k (e.g. Dunshaughlin), to try to hit my 10k target. Plus: 'serious' comes in many shapes and sizes. You can (in theory), be a serious runner and not a member of a club.

davedanon

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

It's a fair question. I had signed up for the GIR, entirely because it was the national 10k, and was looking forward to competing in that competition, but I have significant dislike for the race (even though the GIR was my first ever race of any description). Like the RnR, I don't believe that the national level race should be tagged onto a mass-participation race, but should be a standalone club-organized race, much like the national half marathon used to be, before the arrival of the big '$'.

Apart from that, it's not a very fast race. So if your training is geared at running the best possible 10k time you can, the K-Club (which has a reputation as a very fast flat course) would be a better target. Ideally, I'd have done both (one for the time-based target and the other for the national competition), but unfortunately the K-Club was re-scheduled and as such conflicted with the national 10k. As a result, I'd have done the national 10k, and gone looking for another fast 10k (e.g. Dunshaughlin), to try to hit my 10k target. Plus: 'serious' comes in many shapes and sizes. You can (in theory), be a serious runner and not a member of a club.

Agree with all that. I'm only doing GIR because it's the Nationals. I don't hate the race (got my pb there), but I can see its drawbacks because of the piggybacking on the GIR bandwagon. The R&R is the same, although I genuinely hate the race and the whole concept.

KielyUnusual

Anybody know what the deal with number collection for the National Championships tomorrow is?

Extrasupervery

Hey guys - wasn't expecting to be in Dublin this weekend and I've no way of getting to the K club - anyone know of any numbers or entries going for the GIR tomorrow? I'd love to run it.

ooter

I was at the finish line today, found it strange that "elite"women were still crossing the line after 60 mins and "elite" men still crossing the line after 40 mins?

KJ

Not sure what the story is with the Elites but I have to say that I really enjoyed the race today. The setup was brilliant. A few hills and a fair bit of wind but still managed to get within 4 seconds of my PB.
Who won the men's race anyway? Was it Mick Clohisey?

Myles Splitz

Elites pen also included club runners as its the national 10k championhips which is why you see varying ability up in front pen.

Joe Sweeney and F McCormack 1st home with Clohisey 2nd from what I heard.

Tough conditions out there today.

ooter

KJ wrote: »

Not sure what the story is with the Elites but I have to say that I really enjoyed the race today. The setup was brilliant. A few hills and a fair bit of wind but still managed to get within 4 seconds of my PB.
Who won the men's race anyway? Was it Mick Clohisey?

No a great Britain lad won it by about 5 secs, clohisey came in bang on 30 mins.
Heard fionula and the lad that won the men's race say that conditions were tough.

KielyUnusual

Yea, tough conditions on a tough course. I had some poor preparation for this so was out on my feet after 2-3 K but if I had been going all out, I reckon the hills at 5k and 8k would have been killer. Also that last kilometre in to teeth of the wind would have been soul destroying.

Overall, a reasonably well run event though.

hawkwing

Top 3's
1. Andy Maud GBR 00:29:55
2. Mick Clohisey IRL 00:30:00
3. Kevin Maunsell IRL 00:30:23
***
1. Fionnuala McCormack IRL 00:33:30
2. Deidre Byrne IRL 00:34:41
3. Maria McCambridge IRL 00:34:52
***
Very sparse crowd and i'd be surprised if 25% as many as the 8000 that used to finish this from about 2009-2012 did so today.
Wind was stiff but seemed to be behind us for the uphill bits so could have been worse.
I can't blame congestiton either for a bad time just a pathetic effort at training since Xmas. Time for me to cop on between now and the race series or stay in bed next October 30th

youngrun

4217 finishers per results ahead of last year. Tough day out with the wind. Not an easy one for anyone who hasnt trained a bit . Great set up etc, but the park is so big unless theres 10k running it it feels a bit lonesome!. Nat 10k as competitive as ever , it is a great race even though not fit enough and fell apart on the way up to 7k ,

TommyGrealy

I think yesterday was the best opportunity to get a PB on that course (even though I didnt!), The first 3-4 k (around the north road) was actually against the wind but pretty well sheltered, then you were on the downhill to the 5k mark. On the hilly part there was a very exposed tail wind which was nice. Its rare that you get an easterly wind like that and the other 3 times I've done this race, those hills were made a lot worse by the headwinds. I remember the first time doing the GIR and thinking how horrible the 5-9k section is, seems to be one long drag hill after another. But now that Im much more familiar with it, its really just 3 big hills and opportunities to recover between each - with that in my head and aware that the wind was helping, it was easier to keep my head up. The wind was tough last k tough. Really enjoyed the run.

davedanon

TommyGrealy wrote: »

I think yesterday was the best opportunity to get a PB on that course (even though I didnt!), The first 3-4 k (around the north road) was actually against the wind but pretty well sheltered, then you were on the downhill to the 5k mark. On the hilly part there was a very exposed tail wind which was nice. Its rare that you get an easterly wind like that and the other 3 times I've done this race, those hills were made a lot worse by the headwinds. I remember the first time doing the GIR and thinking how horrible the 5-9k section is, seems to be one long drag hill after another. But now that Im much more familiar with it, its really just 3 big hills and opportunities to recover between each - with that in my head and aware that the wind was helping, it was easier to keep my head up. The wind was tough last k tough. Really enjoyed the run.

Would have to completely disagree. Most people I talked to reckoned (as did I) that it was significantly slower. Britton was 30 seconds slower than last year.

demfad

TommyGrealy wrote: »

I think yesterday was the best opportunity to get a PB on that course (even though I didnt!), The first 3-4 k (around the north road) was actually against the wind but pretty well sheltered, then you were on the downhill to the 5k mark. On the hilly part there was a very exposed tail wind which was nice. Its rare that you get an easterly wind like that and the other 3 times I've done this race, those hills were made a lot worse by the headwinds. I remember the first time doing the GIR and thinking how horrible the 5-9k section is, seems to be one long drag hill after another. But now that Im much more familiar with it, its really just 3 big hills and opportunities to recover between each - with that in my head and aware that the wind was helping, it was easier to keep my head up. The wind was tough last k tough. Really enjoyed the run.

What I would say is that from the Kybher road on there are various pockets of shelter. Although it may make the hills easier, that would be of more benefit with a Westerly wind as that would men the headwind was sheltered rather than a tailwind (as Yesterday).

Also grouping might have been harder yesterday: Everyone is sheltered for first 3k, so no significant advantage there, also with no headwind for the entire mid section: the race would splinter right up with most people exposed to the severe headwind for the last 1-2k.

It depends on the individual too. If you can get shelter into the wind and take advantage of a tailwind you've done well. Looks like it worked out well enough for you, so well done.

adrian522

So it seems like it's €20 for the Great Ireland run and €22 for an entry to the national championship. Think I'll be in the K-Club that weekend to be honest.

Wubble Wubble

Bump.

Are there many from here running in the 2017 event this Sunday? Seems strangely quiet.

hawkwing

Wubble Wubble wrote: »

Bump.

Are there many from here running in the 2017 event this Sunday? Seems strangely quiet.

There used to be several posts for weeks before this event years ago but you will hardly get 5 comments after the race this year,even Ballycotton and Dungarvan 10 have little or no posts anymore. I'm doing it again,don't think it's on tv either this year for the 2nd year in a row and I don't see any mention of international elites like Bekele showing up:(

RacoonQueen

hawkwing wrote: »

There used to be several posts for weeks before this event years ago but you will hardly get 5 comments after the race this year,even Ballycotton and Dungarvan 10 have little or no posts anymore. I'm doing it again,don't think it's on tv either this year for the 2nd year in a row and I don't see any mention of international elites like Bekele showing up:(

I was wondering why it was on at 11am. Used to be 1ish for the tv cameras. Was hoping to get to this as a gang from work are doing it but training hasn't gone to plan (whats new) - getting a bit of speed back in the legs now so if I'd had another couple of weeks would have been happy to go for it. I don't really like racing in the park anyway

average_runner

Rather support a club event than a profit for business event.