Fake Taxi caught by Gardai

Mr.Frame

A fake taxi was caught by the Gardai on friday night.

It had a fake roof sign, fake door stickers, no NCT the car wasnt taxed and the driver was banned from driving.

Yet when caught he had a fare ( a lone female passenger).
The response the Gards are giving out is that people should download the driver app.
But from experience this app is not always up to date and is frequently "out of service"and the reality is when people are half pissed after a night out the last thing they will do is go to an app to verify a drivers ID.

Theres obviously something seriously wrong if someone (this driver) can get a fake roof sign and door stickers.
You would be naive to believe there was only one "fake taxi out there.

foggy_lad

Mr.Frame wrote: »

A fake taxi was caught by the Gardai on friday night.

It had a fake roof sign, fake door stickers, no NCT the car wasnt taxed and the driver was banned from driving.

Yet when caught he had a fare ( a lone female passenger).
The response the Gards are giving out is that people should download the driver app.
But from experience this app is not always up to date and is frequently "out of service"and the reality is when people are half pissed after a night out the last thing they will do is go to an app to verify a drivers ID.

Theres obviously something seriously wrong if someone (this driver) can get a fake roof sign and door stickers.
You would be naive to believe there was only one "fake taxi out there.

There are quite a few around but Gardai can't place it very high on their list of priorities due to their workload at weekends especially in town and city areas.

gctest50

How did they cop it ? Driver not complaining enough ?

......dials 999

"Hi, I just got a taxi home and he wasn't complaining at all "

--"Sounds dodgy - we'll send a car straight away"

Stephen Gawking

Many places in & around Parnell Street can supply counterfeit taxi signs & other paraphernalia. Read into that what you will but it's the reason why services like Hailo & Uber became so popular but as a previous poster said someone pi$$ed out of their mind at 3am isn't likely to use these services or the taxi check app.

pablo128

I have heard a good few dodgy taxis live in a place that sounds like Mosnia.

Spanish Eyes

Gas that that particular taxi was copped just there, just at the right time.

Meanwhile burglars and scumbags are making other people's lives a misery all the time and they cannot be found because of lack of resources.

Something smells odd here.

newacc2015

I have been to China.When you got into a taxi at the airport or a large train station. There was a camera that recorded the reg. I dont know if it was for safety or because the Chinese love to monitor their people.


I think the Gardai/Revenue should have the same here. If you put them on the main roads that link the crossing of the city eg O'Connell Street, Capel St, Church St. You could identify sham taxis pretty quickly cross referencing the data base of PSV. You could also bring in revenue for the state if you made it impossible to cross the city without being picked up by a camera and notifying Revenue of cars being driven without tax/nct/insurance.

Although I cant imagine some people being happy about the state getting details on peoples movements. But Irish people dont care about that data like Germans or Swiss

pablo128

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Gas that that particular taxi was copped just there, just at the right time.

Meanwhile burglars and scumbags are making other people's lives a misery all the time and they cannot be found because of lack of resources.

Something smells odd here.

Burglars and scumbags don't have a registration plate on their arse that you can run through a computer as you drive behind them.

marklazarcovic

link op,have an interest

Collie D

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Gas that that particular taxi was copped just there, just at the right time.

Meanwhile burglars and scumbags are making other people's lives a misery all the time and they cannot be found because of lack of resources.

Something smells odd here.

We don't know the full facts. Could well be the passenger was suspicious and reported it. In which case a very valid use of resources.

Collie D

marklazarcovic wrote: »

link op,have an interest

http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0305/772845-bogus-taxi-driver/

No update from when I read that this morning so may be more recent articles with more details elsewhere

punisher5112

I come across plenty driving dangerously and don't get touched.

Always reminds me of the guys on rte with the beat up punto and a cardboard roof sign with taxi written on it.

punisher5112

Car with anpr probably sniffed it out.

No tax bing cha Ching.
No nct cha cha cha Ching.

Effects

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Gas that that particular taxi was copped just there, just at the right time.

Meanwhile burglars and scumbags are making other people's lives a misery all the time and they cannot be found because of lack of resources.

So you expect gardai to stop all crime everywhere at the same time?

phobia2011

Mr.Frame wrote:

It had a fake roof sign, fake door stickers, no NCT the car wasnt taxed and the driver was banned from driving.

Mr.Frame wrote:

A fake taxi was caught by the Gardai on friday night.

Didn't by any chance have a camera man on board as well?

All the rage these days........apparently!

riffmongous

I thought this was going to be about a different kind of Fake Taxi

jayo26

riffmongous wrote: »

I thought this was going to be about a different kind of Fake Taxi

Thats what made me click the link....

GM228

marklazarcovic wrote: »

link op,have an interest

As reported throught their Twitter feed.

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/706059198346498048

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/706059638995820545

Stephen Gawking wrote: »

it's the reason why services like Hailo & Uber became so popular

What securities do Hailo and Uber provide to ensure Taxis are legit? Can an illegal Taxi get onto it somehow helping them appear more legit I wonder? (I'm not familiar with the requirements to be a signed up driver with them so apologies if it's a silly question).

Crimsonforce

The app driver check for android and iOS allows you to check a car,plate or drivers details instantly. I read about it today.
So I downloaded it, taxi was sitting in front of me in traffic and I put the plate number in and up pops no driver is designated to drive this plate.. so it could have been anyone driving with a fake taxi id.

Imagine the amount of these out there..

Kev W

gctest50 wrote: »

How did they cop it ? Driver not complaining enough ?

......dials 999

"Hi, I just got a taxi home and he wasn't complaining at all "

--"Sounds dodgy - we'll send a car straight away"

" He started talking about the benefits of a multicultural Ireland and how feminism doesn't get a fair shake, it was so creepy... "

n97 mini

The reporting has suggested that only fake taxi drivers are capable of rape, which is bizarre.

Spanish Eyes

Effects wrote: »

So you expect gardai to stop all crime everywhere at the same time?

Of course I do, that is what they are supposed to do.

They managed out of all the thousands of taxis in Dublin on that night to catch this one. Meanwhile, back at the ranch robbers are going at it hammer and tongs everywhere. Yeah.

bk

GM228 wrote: »

What securities do Hailo and Uber provide to ensure Taxis are legit? Can an illegal Taxi get onto it somehow helping them appear more legit I wonder? (I'm not familiar with the requirements to be a signed up driver with them so apologies if it's a silly question).

When a driver requests to join Uber/Hailo, they have to go have an interview with Uber/Hailo staff and bring along their driving license, PSV license, etc. and their photo is taken for use in the app.

Now that doesn't guarantee that the taxi driver hasn't given his taxi to another person who isn't licensed. That has happened in the past, however if the user reports it then the taxi is usually banned from Uber/Hailo.

Of course it also doesn't guarantee that the driver won't attack/rape. But it is certainly WAY safer then just picking some random "Taxi" up off the street.

pablo128

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Of course I do, that is what they are supposed to do.

They managed out of all the thousands of taxis in Dublin on that night to catch this one. Meanwhile, back at the ranch robbers are going at it hammer and tongs everywhere. Yeah.

Garda Traffic Corps look after traffic matters, such as fake taxis. Operation Thor is responsible for tackling burglary gangs.

Spanish Eyes

pablo128 wrote: »

Garda Traffic Corps look after traffic matters, such as fake taxis. Operation Thor is responsible for tackling burglary gangs.

So one branch is better than the other so. Or has more funding, or is on message on site in the capital. Right so.

stoplooklisten

pablo128 wrote: »

Garda Traffic Corps look after traffic matters, such as fake taxis. Operation Thor is responsible for tackling burglary gangs.

foil both operations by using a fake taxi to carry out burglaries

Spanish Eyes

stoplooklisten wrote: »

foil both operations by using a fake taxi to carry out burglaries

That is a subversive comment and should be sent fortwith to Garda Headquarters with a dozen doughnuts.

bk

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Of course I do, that is what they are supposed to do.

They managed out of all the thousands of taxis in Dublin on that night to catch this one. Meanwhile, back at the ranch robbers are going at it hammer and tongs everywhere. Yeah.

I'm sorry but this has to be some of the most idiotic things I've ever read!

This sort of thing is absolutely what the Gardai should be on the look out for. We have no idea why this person was criminally pretending to be a Taxi driver. He could easily have been planning to rape/rob/murder the poor girl he had in the cab.

I think any father would be delighted to hear that the Gardai are on the look out for this sort of thing.

Guy:Incognito

pablo128 wrote: »

Burglars and scumbags don't have a registration plate on their arse that you can run through a computer as you drive behind them.

Someone should look in to that:D

Spanish Eyes

bk wrote: »

I'm sorry but this has to be some of the most idiotic things I've ever read!

This sort of thing is absolutely what the Gardai should be on the look out for. We have no idea why this person was criminally pretending to be a Taxi driver. He could easily have been planning to rape/rob/murder the poor girl he had in the cab.

I think any father would be delighted to hear that the Gardai are on the look out for this sort of thing.

You don't get tongue in cheek do you?

We don't know that the passenger wasn't an undercover cop do we?

And to reply, Robbers and invaders of law abiding citizen's houses should be absolutely what the cops should be on the look out for too. Just to balance it out.

strandroad

bk wrote: »

Of course it also doesn't guarantee that the driver won't attack/rape. But it is certainly WAY safer then just picking some random "Taxi" up off the street.

Using Hailo and the likes also has the great advantage of knowing taxi/driver details if you leave your phone or laptop behind.

foggy_lad

Crimsonforce wrote: »

The app driver check for android and iOS allows you to check a car,plate or drivers details instantly. I read about it today.
So I downloaded it, taxi was sitting in front of me in traffic and I put the plate number in and up pops no driver is designated to drive this plate.. so it could have been anyone driving with a fake taxi id.

Imagine the amount of these out there..

The information on the app and the NTA site is often very out of date.

fergus1001

Don't Google fake taxi in front of your other half, just saying

stoplooklisten

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/news/deals-on-wheels-taxi-driving-drug-lords-passengers-at-risk

Meet the convicted Nigerian cocaine trafficker who is flouting the law by driving a taxi round Dublin without a PSV licence.
Efforts to deport Yemi Moshood Olatunde from Ireland to Italy, where he faces a 22-year sentence for cocaine trafficking, failed last September.


Is this the same guy or a different guy?

Mr.Frame

bk wrote: »

I'm sorry but this has to be some of the most idiotic things I've ever read!

This sort of thing is absolutely what the Gardai should be on the look out for. We have no idea why this person was criminally pretending to be a Taxi driver. He could easily have been planning to rape/rob/murder the poor girl he had in the cab.

I think any father would be delighted to hear that the Gardai are on the look out for this sort of thing.

I disagree. Spanish Eyes does make a very valid point.
Of all the 1000s of taxis in Dublin working that night , only ONE was caught

Can you remember any time in recent months or years when the Gards announced they caught an illegal taxi working ?

Ask any taxi driver who works in Dublin ( or any county) and they will tell you they see illegal taxis working the streets on a daily/nightly basis and despite reporting them via the "app" nothing is done about it.

Whenever the regulators enforcers are out in force ( which is seldom) on a given day/night, you will notice a huge number of taxis that stay off the streets at that time.

What does that tell you ? It shows that many have something to hide.

As for saying the illegal driver who was stopped might have been planning to rape the girl or murder her is sensationalist and should be left to the tabloids.
The Gardai said nothing of the kind in relation to the arrest

pablo128

Mr.Frame wrote: »

I disagree. Spanish Eyes does make a very valid point.
Of all the 1000s of taxis in Dublin working that night , only ONE was caught

Only one was reported caught. There may well have been more. Publicising it might also dissuade others from doing it. Wishful thinking maybe, but there you go.

Atlantic Dawn

What always shocks me is when a Taxi is robbed there's no massive public alert system campaign like the child abduction system to alert the public that a dodgy cab is driving around and potentially plying for trade.

Valetta

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

You don't get tongue in cheek do you?

We don't know that the passenger wasn't an undercover cop do we?

And to reply, Robbers and invaders of law abiding citizen's houses should be absolutely what the cops should be on the look out for too. Just to balance it out.

How do you know there were no burglers caught that night as well?

GM228

Mr.Frame wrote: »

Of all the 1000s of taxis in Dublin working that night , only ONE was caught

I think it was the lack of tax which caught the Taxi, one thing led to another, a Taxi with up to date tax/insurance would slip under the radar a lot easier.

I also suspect the ratio of fake taxis to lack of tax for example is very low and an awful lot of people slip by without tax so it's very reasonable to believe the chances of catching a fake Taxi are very low.

For example if one in ten people are caught for no tax on a particular night then it is reasonable to catch say 10 people in a given night out of a possible 100 on the road, so if 1 in 10 fake Taxis are caught and there are only 10 anyway then it's reasonable to see only 1 will be caught.

It may very well be possible it was the only fake Taxi out there at the time.

Is there any estimates of how many fake Taxis there may actually be?

Even if Gardaí specifically checked for legitimate Taxis each one checked in a particular check point may be legit in a particular location or on a particular night.

Mr.Frame wrote: »

Can you remember any time in recent months or years when the Gards announced they caught an illegal taxi working ?

Over a 100 "dodgy" drivers caught last year alone in a clampdown. No doubt many were illegal Taxis.

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/over-100-dodgy-taxi-drivers-6990606

Cunning Stunt

Fair play to the guards.

cdebru

stoplooklisten wrote: »

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/news/deals-on-wheels-taxi-driving-drug-lords-passengers-at-risk

Meet the convicted Nigerian cocaine trafficker who is flouting the law by driving a taxi round Dublin without a PSV licence.
Efforts to deport Yemi Moshood Olatunde from Ireland to Italy, where he faces a 22-year sentence for cocaine trafficking, failed last September.


Is this the same guy or a different guy?

Seems a little coincidental that this story appeared in the Sunday World website the same day , maybe the Sunday World could go out and identify other bogus taxis for the gardai to catch.

Kev W

This thread is the first time I've ever seen a story about the guards doing their jobs presented as evidence that the guards aren't doing their jobs.

ohnonotgmail

cdebru wrote: »

Seems a little coincidental that this story appeared in the Sunday World website the same day , maybe the Sunday World could go out and identify other bogus taxis for the gardai to catch.

the sunday world have been reporting on this guy for some time now. The italians have been trying to deport him back to italy to serve a 22 year sentence for dealing drugs. so not really much of a coincidence

STB.

stoplooklisten wrote: »

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/news/deals-on-wheels-taxi-driving-drug-lords-passengers-at-risk

Meet the convicted Nigerian cocaine trafficker who is flouting the law by driving a taxi round Dublin without a PSV licence.
Efforts to deport Yemi Moshood Olatunde from Ireland to Italy, where he faces a 22-year sentence for cocaine trafficking, failed last September.


Is this the same guy or a different guy?

No its a different guy. The guy who was caught in Bride Street in a fake taxi with no insurance psv etc just got handed a €600 fine and community service.

He was already off the road having been caught driving a taxi with no insurance previously.

You couldn't make this stuff up. I see that the judge is one of those solicitors who was appointed by government!

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/fake-taxi-driver-given-community-service-and-fined-600-727413.html

Grolschevik

STB. wrote: »

You couldn't make this stuff up. I see that the judge is one of those solicitors who was appointed by government!

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Eh... all judges are appointed by the government.