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Are gingers over achievers?

  • 02-03-2016 10:01pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭


    So about 2%, possibly less of the worlds population is a ginger. So naturally one would assume that we should see very few successful gingers in any walk of life. After all how many successful Eskimos do you know?

    However, I along with several esteemed colleagues have noticed a shocking and amazing trend over the past decade. Gingers are not only succeeding in their endeavours...they're dominating the field. For example...

    Connor McGregor.....boom ginger. Greatest fighter in the world.

    Paul O'Connel....Internationally renowned as one of the greatest rugby players.

    Ed Sheeran...biggest star of Spotify and all round great.

    First woman in Ireland to achieve greatness was Mary Robinson in 1990 by becoming president. Some 26 years ago and shockingly every President since has been ginger.

    Irelands youngest ever self made millionaire is ginger.

    Irelands only WWE star...is ginger.

    Ginger Donald trump. DOMINATING.

    Ginger Mark Zuckerberg changed the world.

    Ginger German Angela Merkel dominates all of Europe.

    The list of Great Gingers is ever increasing at a rapid rate. Personally I'm astounded by the facts and figures.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    Another ginger nut vicar?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    Bosco could have done better aside from the much publicised cocaine habit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭Arkady


    Will the current generation of Irish ever realise that ironically, a hatred of red haired people, is an anti Irish sterotype imported from the UK via english television and sit coms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭masti123


    Conor McGregor is ginger? News to me..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭Lights On


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    Irelands only WWE star...is ginger.

    There's 3 WWE stars from these parts, but you're almost right as two of them are ginger. Becky Lynch being one of the better gingers I've seen ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    If I grow my beard for a bit it goes ginger at the tips but I don't get better at anything.

    except sex and writing novels and poems and wining tournaments
    and elections and travelling to space and learning languages and meeting
    people.

    but its itchy so I shave it off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    "So say it once and say it loud "I'm ginger and I'm proud"'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    Also it's worth mentioning that red heads are the best in bed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,807 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    So about 2%, possibly less of the worlds population is a ginger.

    The list of Great Gingers is ever increasing at a rapid rate. Personally I'm astounded by the facts and figures.

    I presume this rise of successful gingers is happening at equal rate around the world, since you're mentioning global stats. How are they doing in Vietnam, Lesotho, Tajikistan and Nicaragua these days?

    When I was in Bratislava a couple of years ago, I had a soft drink called Gingerade. Lovely stuff! A ginger and lemon flavoured fizzy drink.


    (I won't make a some joke about a charity event in aid of redheads called Ginger Aid.)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    You quote global percentages for red hair and then cite western achievements.

    43% of Irish people carry the recessive gene for red hair. Over 15% of Eastern Europeans likewise. 8% of Americans have red hair.

    Your hypothesis doesn't hold water as you're comparing Apples and (no pun intended) Oranges.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭UrbanSprawl


    Being a ging does not imply any special considerations.Gings play on their supposed inferiority to great advantage.No hates red haired people.Its all in your head or maybe on top of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    You quote global percentages for red hair and then cite western achievements.

    43% of Irish people carry the recessive gene for red hair. Over 15% of Eastern Europeans likewise. 8% of Americans have red hair.

    Your hypothesis doesn't hold water as you're comparing Apples and (no pun intended) Oranges.

    How many red head middle easterners do you know? How many Asian red heads? My hypothesis is solid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭Arkady


    Being a ging does not imply any special considerations.Gings play on their supposed inferiority to great advantage.No hates red haired people.Its all in your head or maybe on top of it.

    The British scriptwriters that wrote ginger jokes into their sitcoms from the 80's and 90's on, to covertly take the piss out of Irish people, or people of Irish extraction, after Paddy jokes were banned on British tv (along with "Packie" and "Coon" jokes) must be fairly laughing up their sleeves now at the Irish, through their own ignorance of its origins, now use it in Ireland against themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    That's dyed hair.

    I suppose this is dyed too: http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=5775763


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »

    Fr Dougal. Also ginger. Greatest comedian of 1997.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    How many red head middle easterners do you know? How many Asian red heads? My hypothesis is solid.

    But you listed no achievements by Middle Easterners, Asians or South Americans. And there are too many to list.

    Solid as a wet sponge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    But you listed no achievements by Middle Easterners, Asians or South Americans. And there are too many to list.

    Solid as a wet sponge.

    Yes and their numbers are in the billions in comparison to so few gingers. I don't think you get it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    Yes and their numbers are in the billions in comparison to so few gingers. I don't think you get it.

    This ginger is well known: http://dailysquib.co.uk/files/Hitler_ginger_605711138.jpg


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    After all how many successful Eskimos do you know?

    They must be very successful, or they would have all frozen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    Fr Dougal. Also ginger. Greatest comedian of 1997.

    Dougal is brown haired.

    Biographical information
    Born
    c. 1971
    Nationality Irish
    Title(s) Father

    Physical description
    Species Human
    Gender Male
    Hair colour Brown
    Eye colour Blue
    Skin colour Light


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    Dougal is brown haired.

    Biographical information
    Born
    c. 1971
    Nationality Irish
    Title(s) Father

    Physical description
    Species Human
    Gender Male
    Hair colour Brown
    Eye colour Blue
    Skin colour Light

    Brown? Or very very very very very very very very very very very very very dark red?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    A few famous eskimos or inuit

    Eva Aariak politician
    Susan Aglukark inuk musician (born in Manitoba)
    Olayuk Akesuk politician
    David Alagalak politician
    Madeleine Allakariallak throat singer
    Stephen Angulalik fur trader, trading post operator
    Goo "Mosa" Arlooktoo politician
    Joe Arlooktoo artist
    James Arreak politician
    Pitseolak Ashoona artist
    Tanya "Tagaq" Gillis throat singer
    Ann Meekitjuk Hanson politician, author
    Lucie Idlout singer
    Osuitok Ipeelee sculptor
    Alootook Ipellie illustrator, author
    Simeonie Keenainak accordionist
    Ashevak Kenojauk inuit artist
    Kiviaq lawyer, politician
    Zacharias Kunuk film producer, director
    Michael Kusugak storyteller, author
    Billy Merkosak artist
    Nakasuk founder iqaluit
    Paul Okalik first premier of nunavut
    Jessie Oonark artist
    Stephen Osborne author
    Charlie Panigoniak singer, songwriter, musician
    Annabella Piugattuk actress
    Annie Pootoogook artist
    Pudlo Pudlat artist
    Andrew Qappik graphic artist
    Pauta Saila artist
    Ningeokuluk Teevee author, artist
    Irene Avaalaaqiaq Tiktaalaaq artist
    Simon Tookoome artist
    Jordin Tootoo hockey player (born in Manitoba)
    Natar Ungalaaq filmmaker, actor
    Sheila Watt-Cloutier inuit activist

    Fame is often relative to the society you are in. Hence again, your hypothesis is flawed by using global stats and examples of fame within your own society only.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    A few famous eskimos or inuit

    Eva Aariak politician
    Susan Aglukark inuk musician (born in Manitoba)
    Olayuk Akesuk politician
    David Alagalak politician
    Madeleine Allakariallak throat singer
    Stephen Angulalik fur trader, trading post operator
    Goo "Mosa" Arlooktoo politician
    Joe Arlooktoo artist
    James Arreak politician
    Pitseolak Ashoona artist
    Tanya "Tagaq" Gillis throat singer
    Ann Meekitjuk Hanson politician, author
    Lucie Idlout singer
    Osuitok Ipeelee sculptor
    Alootook Ipellie illustrator, author
    Simeonie Keenainak accordionist
    Ashevak Kenojauk inuit artist
    Kiviaq lawyer, politician
    Zacharias Kunuk film producer, director
    Michael Kusugak storyteller, author
    Billy Merkosak artist
    Nakasuk founder iqaluit
    Paul Okalik first premier of nunavut
    Jessie Oonark artist
    Stephen Osborne author
    Charlie Panigoniak singer, songwriter, musician
    Annabella Piugattuk actress
    Annie Pootoogook artist
    Pudlo Pudlat artist
    Andrew Qappik graphic artist
    Pauta Saila artist
    Ningeokuluk Teevee author, artist
    Irene Avaalaaqiaq Tiktaalaaq artist
    Simon Tookoome artist
    Jordin Tootoo hockey player (born in Manitoba)
    Natar Ungalaaq filmmaker, actor
    Sheila Watt-Cloutier inuit activist


    Thread is based on hair colour bestowing greatness to individuals. Has very little to do with race. I suggest you calm down a bit with the copy paste smarmy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    Thread is based on hair colour bestowing greatness to individuals. Has very little to do with race.

    Asks about successful eskimos. Complains when poster answered.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    Bruthal wrote: »
    Asks about successful eskimos. Complains when poster answered.

    Said no one ever

    Except you.

    And considering the poster in question dislikes Trent? Lol. Nuff said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    I LOVE red hair. Always notice it in the street, always think it is gorgeous. My granny had red hair and I always hoped one of my kids or grandies would be a Rua but none were. Not yet :-(

    And if I were giving out jobs, I'd consider a red-head very favourably because I am a meanie and a discriminator. And because she or he might marry one of my offsprings and beget some copper-headed grandchildren :-)

    By the way, this is not a new thing: 'twas ever thus.
    My next-door neighbour for many years was an old lady who was born in rural Donegal in about 1920; and she said, a little enviously, that at that time and place, all a girl had to do to be considered pretty, was to have red hair: that was the peak desire, that was enough -- any girl, any face. She didn't mention the blokes but you can't have one without the other!

    So a ginger can't be an over-achiever: nothing is too good for them. :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    So about 2%, possibly less of the worlds population is a ginger.
    Mint Aero wrote: »
    Fr Dougal. Also ginger. Greatest comedian of 1997.
    I would say it is higher than 2% in your mind, after seeing the people you included so far.

    Even if it was 2% there are probably other groups that make up 2% where you could make a similar list. e.g. if 1 in 10 are people left handed, then it could be 2% of the population are left handed with brown eyes and you could probably list of loads of famous people like that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    Thread is based on hair colour bestowing greatness to individuals. Has very little to do with race. I suggest you calm down a bit with the copy paste smarmy

    Hair colour for all those is jet black. Hair colour is linked to race.

    Perfectly calm and relaxed here. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    Said no one ever

    Except you.

    And considering the poster in question dislikes Trent? Lol. Nuff said.

    Who or what is this Trent that you seem to think I dislike?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    Yes, I am an over achiever. I thoroughly agree with Srameen. Just a pity that my greatness goes unrecognised and my pay check is not commensurate with my fabulousness. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭conorhal


    A few famous eskimos or inuit

    Eva Aariak politician
    Susan Aglukark inuk musician (born in Manitoba)
    Olayuk Akesuk politician
    David Alagalak politician
    Madeleine Allakariallak throat singer
    Stephen Angulalik fur trader, trading post operator
    Goo "Mosa" Arlooktoo politician
    Joe Arlooktoo artist
    James Arreak politician
    Pitseolak Ashoona artist
    Tanya "Tagaq" Gillis throat singer
    Ann Meekitjuk Hanson politician, author
    Lucie Idlout singer
    Osuitok Ipeelee sculptor
    Alootook Ipellie illustrator, author
    Simeonie Keenainak accordionist
    Ashevak Kenojauk inuit artist
    Kiviaq lawyer, politician
    Zacharias Kunuk film producer, director
    Michael Kusugak storyteller, author
    Billy Merkosak artist
    Nakasuk founder iqaluit
    Paul Okalik first premier of nunavut
    Jessie Oonark artist
    Stephen Osborne author
    Charlie Panigoniak singer, songwriter, musician
    Annabella Piugattuk actress
    Annie Pootoogook artist
    Pudlo Pudlat artist
    Andrew Qappik graphic artist
    Pauta Saila artist
    Ningeokuluk Teevee author, artist
    Irene Avaalaaqiaq Tiktaalaaq artist
    Simon Tookoome artist
    Jordin Tootoo hockey player (born in Manitoba)
    Natar Ungalaaq filmmaker, actor
    Sheila Watt-Cloutier inuit activist

    Fame is often relative to the society you are in. Hence again, your hypothesis is flawed by using global stats and examples of fame within your own society only.

    I put it to you that a 'Famous Eskimos' categoroy option on Pointless would be be a garenteed winner for the contestent that could name one would suggest that fame isn't as relative as you think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I find that people who fall back on ginger jokes tend to be unimaginative folk in general.

    I'm not a ginger myself but my beard wants to be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Did anyone ever go to that "Shag a ginger night" that some nightclub was promoting a few months back?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    smash wrote: »
    Did anyone ever go to that "Shag a ginger night" that some nightclub was promoting a few months back?

    I passed by. There was a rake of red haired lads queueing up.

    Nobody else went so a lot of them had to make serious lifestyle adjustments to follow through on their legal obligation to shag a ginger that night.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,572 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    A few famous eskimos or inuit

    list of randomers

    Fame is often relative to the society you are in. Hence again, your hypothesis is flawed by using global stats and examples of fame within your own society only.
    For global fame there's Nanook of the North

    https://archive.org/details/nanookOfTheNorth1922


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    You need certain traits to be successful and excel, and having no soul facilitates this.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    smash wrote: »
    Did anyone ever go to that "Shag a ginger night" that some nightclub was promoting a few months back?

    The Fcuk did I miss that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭duchalla


    Michelle Smith, the greatest drug taking Irish athlete ever was a ginger.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    Conor Mc Gregor is not ginger, Angela Merkel is not ginger ...

    Mark Zuckerberg is not ginger ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    Yes but Prince Harry is....*stars in eyes*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Enda 'Spineless' Kenny is a ginger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Gary Kildall


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    Natural red hair is very common here in Germany. The whole fascination and disgust with the hair colour seems to be something confined to the British Isles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    Conan O'Brien. Greatest comedian and comic genius of all time. Also wrote greatest Simpsons episodes in history. Ginger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    My redhead rocks my world \m/ :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,554 ✭✭✭valoren


    Michelle Smith.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Natural red hair is very common here in Germany. The whole fascination and disgust with the hair colour seems to be something confined to the British Isles.

    Nah, it happens in a lot of places. My brother in law was mercilessly bullied his whole life for having the temerity to be a Redhead in France.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,639 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    My once ginger auburn hair is now grey. I watch the post every day anxiously awaiting my overachiever recall. :(

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



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