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So, what will €500 get me?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭Loire


    gizmo555 wrote: »
    With this machine, you have to manually remove the portafilter from its holder on the right, then hold it under the grinder in the centre to collect the ground coffee, then manually tamp it with the tamper on the left, then put it back onto the holder on the right, then brew your coffee.

    With practice, I'm sure you could do it in under a minute. It's just not fully automatic. You'd also need some kind of knock box to discard the used grounds into after each brew, whereas a bean-to-cup machine collects these in an internal container that you'd normally only have to empty just once a day, or less depending on usage.

    Super, thanks for that - appreciate it.

    Loire.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭gizmo555


    Actually, I don't want to come across as a "bean-to-cup" evangelist and I can well see how other people would prefer other machines.

    But, when I think about it, the Sage machine has all the disadvantages of an integrated machine and none of the advantages.

    It's not full automatic, press of a button to get your coffee. But it has the grinder integrated into the coffee machine which means if one part packs in, the whole package is scrap. Also, you can't upgrade one or the other separately. Seems to me it gives you the worst of both worlds . . .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭flangemeistro


    I got this for work http://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B00UTJQLZK/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1456929036&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=krups+ea8160&dpPl=1&dpID=51PW%2BH0AArL&ref=plSrch on a lightening deal on Amazon two weeks ago for €260 delivered it works out about €350 now but it's an amazing machine.
    I also have one of these http://www.amazon.fr/Panasonic-NC-ZA1HXE-Machine-Expresso-Automatique/dp/B00H99ZWM6?&linkCode=wsw&tag=fmcg-21 at home but it's over your budget but it is the cream of the crop of bean to cup machines


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭alec76


    Loire wrote: »
    Hi,

    Would you mind telling me why you wouldn't go for the Sage - the reviews seem to be pretty decent. I too am considering getting a coffee machine and thanks all for the feedback in this thread - the De'Longhi machines look very good in any case.

    Thanks,
    Loire.
    You'll get it cheaper locally
    http://www.harveynorman.ie/small-appliances/coffee-machines/bean-2-cup/sage-barista-pro-coffee-machine-bes870uk.html
    Paying €700 for semi with no E61 group head ?! Madness
    No naked portafilter , no decent tamper , no VST ridgeless baskets and so on....
    As I said before , for this kinda money u get Rancilio Silvia and Rocky Grinder, superb choice IMO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭Loire


    alec76 wrote: »
    You'll get it cheaper locally
    http://www.harveynorman.ie/small-appliances/coffee-machines/bean-2-cup/sage-barista-pro-coffee-machine-bes870uk.html
    Paying €700 for semi with no E61 group head ?! Madness
    No naked portafilter , no decent tamper , no VST ridgeless baskets and so on....
    As I said before , for this kinda money u get Rancilio Silvia and Rocky Grinder, superb choice IMO

    Hi,

    Sorry to derail the thread, but is it possible to get a coffee as good as from one of these machines using an Aeropress? I have one of these and a Bodum grider (same as this Krups one I believe: ( http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tefal-Grinder-GT203840-Stainless-Capacity/dp/B008J22GF8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1456997575&sr=8-3&keywords=bodum+coffee+grinder)

    Thanks,
    Loire.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Nothing wrong with an aeropress at all - it'll make great coffee, as good as any machine - albeit not espresso, as long as you use fresh roast beans and replace that grinder with a burr grinder of some description. The grinder you have is a blade grinder, and really doesn't do justice to any brewing/extraction process (it generates a lot of heat, and irregular size grounds).

    A manual / hand operated burr grinder will be better, but involve a bit of work, or you could get a cheap electrical burr grinder - Bodum do one, which wouldn't cut it for espresso, but will manage an aeropress grind okay.
    Loire wrote: »
    Hi,

    Sorry to derail the thread, but is it possible to get a coffee as good as from one of these machines using an Aeropress? I have one of these and a Bodum grider (same as this Krups one I believe: ( http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tefal-Grinder-GT203840-Stainless-Capacity/dp/B008J22GF8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1456997575&sr=8-3&keywords=bodum+coffee+grinder)

    Thanks,
    Loire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,545 ✭✭✭murphyebass


    alastair wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with an aeropress at all - it'll make great coffee, as good as any machine - albeit not espresso, as long as you use fresh roast beans and replace that grinder with a burr grinder of some description. The grinder you have is a blade grinder, and really doesn't do justice to any brewing/extraction process (it generates a lot of heat, and irregular size grounds).

    A manual / hand operated burr grinder will be better, but involve a bit of work, or you could get a cheap electrical burr grinder - Bodum do one, which wouldn't cut it for espresso, but will manage an aeropress grind okay.

    This.

    I bought my dad a this set up at Christmas.

    I haven't turned my gaggia classic in weeks.

    My favourite brew is now a cup of aeropress.

    If done right (and it's not hard) it's coffee perfection imo.


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