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Get a back boiler stove-don't get one- insulate house-don't insulate and more

  • 26-02-2016 3:39pm
    #1
    shugy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭


    Have a 2200-2400sq ft dormer bungalow on a raised site. I was looking into buying a back boiler stove to heat the house along with a back up of oil that's already in. I've been talked out of this because been advised back boiler stoves don't heat all of my needs as in rads,water and a very comfortable room. They also burn ALOT of fuel which isn't quite what I want.

    Next I've been looking into insulating my home either with pumped or external insulation. Have been told pumped can't bring moisture through the cavity wall and it isn't that great either. As for the external, been told it's only best used if one is in the house all day and to go for internal insulation which to me, will be to messy to install. The external insulation can also create more moisture in the house and will need to drill a 4 inch hole in the wall so the rooms can breath. This to me sounds crazy because it will also suck heat out!

    Next up, someone mentioned go get the house air tested, plug all the air escapes and there won't be no need for the extra insulation or stove.

    As you can see from my post above, I'm at my wits end to get this house ready for next winter that'll reduce my fuel consumption costs! Any advice on what's best for me!


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  • #2
    MicktheMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭MicktheMan


    shugy wrote: »
    Any advice on what's best for me!

    Yes. Have YOUR house tested for heat loss by an expert independent professional and take his / her advise. Everything else is just random comments by randomers on a random internet forum.


  • #3
    Buona Fortuna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    Hi Shugy

    Agree with the post above.

    Personally, I love solid fuel. We have one for all our heating and hot water. Back up oil but haven't used it for 3 years.

    Solid fuel is great if you have your own turf, or live where you can get it, or your own timber. I wouldn't want to be buying everything we burn ;).

    House has external insulation since 2014 and I love that too.

    Just my 2 cents.


  • #4
    shugy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭shugy


    MicktheMan wrote: »
    Yes. Have YOUR house tested for heat loss by an expert independent professional and take his / her advise. Everything else is just random comments by randomers on a random internet forum.

    What's involved in this and what's the average cost


  • #5
    shugy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭shugy


    Buona Fortuna wrote: »
    Hi Shugy

    Agree with the post above.

    Personally, I love solid fuel. We have one for all our heating and hot water. Back up oil but haven't used it for 3 years.

    Solid fuel is great if you have your own turf, or live where you can get it, or your own timber. I wouldn't want to be buying everything we burn ;).

    House has external insulation since 2014 and I love that too.

    Just my 2 cents.


    What size stove/house and how much turf do you go through a year with it if ya don't mind me asking.

    I can do the external insulation myself and get a plumber I know to fit the stove. Its just knowing are they really worth the money.


  • #6
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    this kinda thing :

    and someone who knows what they are looking at too hopefully






    .


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  • #7
    MicktheMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭MicktheMan


    shugy wrote: »
    What's involved in this and what's the average cost

    Google "heat loss survey"
    you are talking about a combination of thermal imaging, blowerdoor testing (air tightness), ventilation and heating system / control inspection and a full explanation to homeowner on what is best for them given their plans/budget etc.


  • #8
    Buona Fortuna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    shugy wrote: »
    What size stove/house and how much turf do you go through a year with it if ya don't mind me asking.

    I can do the external insulation myself and get a plumber I know to fit the stove. Its just knowing are they really worth the money.

    Sorry not great at the old science of it. Our plumber (a relative of the wife) said put as big of one in that will fit / you can afford - we did.

    Turf a year In 2014 we got a trailer of turf and a trailer* of logs. 2015 I still had enough turf left so just got logs. When the weather is mild we'll burn a bag turf or bag of logs for the day. When its cold a bag of each. When its bloody cold a bucket of coal too.

    * Both 8X10 trailers


    Hope that is some use to you.


  • #9
    shugy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭shugy


    gctest50 wrote: »
    this kinda thing :

    and someone who knows what they are looking at too hopefully






    .




    How would one seal all them air leaks in a house. Quite shocked at that video TBH.

    as for the window video, never believe someone trying to sell us something!
    In saying that, I already have Argo filled double glazing so that ain't to bad I'd have thought


  • #10
    shugy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭shugy


    Buona Fortuna wrote: »
    Sorry not great at the old science of it. Our plumber (a relative of the wife) said put as big of one in that will fit / you can afford - we did.

    Turf a year In 2014 we got a trailer of turf and a trailer* of logs. 2015 I still had enough turf left so just got logs. When the weather is mild we'll burn a bag turf or bag of logs for the day. When its cold a bag of each. When its bloody cold a bucket of coal too.

    * Both 8X10 trailers


    Hope that is some use to you.

    2014=2 trailers. 2015=2 trailers but your saying 8x10 = 80 trailers which sounds excessive to me


  • #11
    Buona Fortuna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    shugy wrote: »
    2014=2 trailers. 2015=2 trailers but your saying 8x10 = 80 trailers which sounds excessive to me

    2 trailers in 2014
    1 trailer in 2015
    8x10 is a type of trailer


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  • #12
    shugy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭shugy


    Buona Fortuna wrote: »
    2 trailers in 2014
    1 trailer in 2015
    8x10 is a type of trailer



    Yes I get you know. I was drunk and tired reading that last night and thought it was a calculation you where posting :(


  • #13
    leanonme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭leanonme


    you might find it hard to find a stove to heat a house of that size, but you could look at a zoned heating system. My father's house is an old farm house with no insulation, and some of the rads in the house never heated untill he put in a zoned system, made a big difference to the heat of the different rooms.


  • #14
    mattser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭mattser


    shugy wrote: »
    Yes I get you know. I was drunk and tired reading that last night and thought it was a calculation you where posting :(

    No need for the frown face. That's the funniest thing I've seen all week.


  • #15
    shugy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭shugy


    leanonme wrote: »
    you might find it hard to find a stove to heat a house of that size, but you could look at a zoned heating system. My father's house is an old farm house with no insulation, and some of the rads in the house never heated untill he put in a zoned system, made a big difference to the heat of the different rooms.

    zoned?


  • #16
    leanonme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭leanonme


    shugy wrote: »
    zoned?

    So he had a stove with a back boiler, the largest one he could find and then had a zoned heating system installed, worked a dream. Rooms which never had heat in the radiators now were heating at different times of the day.

    Have a look at the following link:
    https://www.google.ie/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=zoned%20heating


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