Garda stopping photos been taken in public

handlemaster

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/garda-stops-journalists-photographing-slab-murphy-at-polling-station-1.2549485



Is this legal for a garda to stop someone taking photos in public ?

osarusan

Garda reason:

The garda told the journalists to leave the area and said they were interfering with the voting process.

Perhaps other voters would feel uneasy/intimidated by cameras, making them less likely to cast their vote?

Turtyturd

Seems like a reasonable request outside the polling station.

When 6 of them have some poor f*cker on the ground and are laying kicks into him not so much.

Gatling

At the request of a bunch of sinner's who had no problems blocking people into their cars on a public street

donegaLroad

You are not allowed to take photos of cash deliveries to the banks when the army accompany the security van etc.

benneca1

Poor guard faced with that crap she probably thought she was going to have a handy day chatting to voters. Guess we had better get used to private armies telling people what to do and intimidating journalists.

humberklog

donegaLroad wrote: »

You are not allowed to take photos of cash deliveries to the banks when the army accompany the security van etc.

Have you got a link to that legislation\law?

Boom_Bap

MOD
A warning on this one, the person in the article is not the subect of discussion here, it's about photos been taken outside a polling station.

The person mentioned in the article is part of an ongoing court case that is set to conclude today.
Be careful what you post please as we cannot discuss ongoing court cases.

ForstalDave

i do believe your not meant to take photos at the polling station and the guard telling them not to is separate to his mates telling them, though lets face it he will be well photographed till he starts serving his sentance

Kristopherus

Boom_Bap wrote: »

MOD
A warning on this one, the person in the article is not the subect of discussion here, it's about photos been taken outside a polling station.

The person mentioned in the article is part of an ongoing court case that is set to conclude today.
Be careful what you post please as we cannot discuss ongoing court cases.

The court has given its decision. Gerry's "good republican" friend got 18 months.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0226/770967-thomas-slab-murphy-court/

aphex™

I was filmed by rte casting my vote inside a polling station once.

You'd wonder who's running the show up there in Co. Louth.

Boom_Bap

Kristopherus wrote: »

The court has given its decision. Gerry's "good republican" friend got 18 months.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0226/770967-thomas-slab-murphy-court/

Cheers, I missed that.

But still let's keep this thread about pictures/polling stations.

Riskymove

aphex™ wrote: »

I was filmed by rte casting my vote inside a polling station once.

Presumably with your consent

Did they film other people generally entering and leaving the polling station?

Did he not avail of Martin Ferris "whisk away good Republicans to avoid mean media" service?

aphex™

Riskymove wrote: »

Presumably with your consent

A polling station is a public place on the day, so no. It was just a local guy who worked for RTE so no point going on about it.

They had a few panoramic shots inside the place and one of me casting my vote.

Gatling

aphex™ wrote: »

You'd wonder who's running the show up there in Co. Louth.

They wear uniforms that don't come in blue and wear cheap sunglasses

Elemonator

The Guard acted within the law, she's just doing her job. While he/she is not allowed to discourage campaigning that is carried out peacefully, if campaigners or whoever are blocking access to the polling station ("interfering with the electoral process"), they can be asked to move along. Overall, it is the Presiding Officer who maintains law and order around the place.


The media can film/take photos in the polling station if given permission by the Returning Officer. The media may go to go into the polling station to take photographs or film the interior before the polls have opened. However, this decision is entirely up to the Returning Officer and you can take pictures/film yourself if you ask for permission.

Otherwise, members of the media are not allowed to enter a polling station (unless they are voting
there themselves, or are an accredited observer) or film, interview or photograph voters in the
polling station. Filming and interviewing voters outside the polling station is allowed, as long as
voters are not hindered or obstructed as they make their way to the polling station. However,
members of the media need to be mindful that some people may be deterred from going into a
polling station if they think they will be filmed or photographed doing so.

Riskymove

aphex™ wrote: »

A polling station is a public place on the day, so no. It was just a local guy who worked for RTE so no point going on about it.

They had a few panoramic shots inside the place and one of me casting my vote.

at the same time, they obviously had permission to be there and I imagine anyone not wanting to be filmed wouldn't have been

Gatling

Elemonator wrote: »

The Guard acted within the law, she's just doing her job. While he/she is not allowed to discourage campaigning that is carried out peacefully, if campaigners or whoever are blocking access to the polling station ("interfering with the electoral process"), they can be asked to move along. Overall, it is the Presiding Officer who maintains law and order around the place.


The media can film/take photos in the polling station if given permission by the Returning Officer. The media may go to go into the polling station to take photographs or film the interior before the polls have opened. However, this decision is entirely up to the Returning Officer and you can take pictures/film yourself if you ask for permission.

Otherwise, members of the media are not allowed to enter a polling station (unless they are voting
there themselves, or are an accredited observer) or film, interview or photograph voters in the
polling station. Filming and interviewing voters outside the polling station is allowed, as long as
voters are not hindered or obstructed as they make their way to the polling station. However,
members of the media need to be mindful that some people may be deterred from going into a
polling station if they think they will be filmed or photographed doing so.

A Public street where photographers were prevented from leaving their cars ,by individuals doing "their Job"
They weren't taking pictures of the polling station but one individual who happens to be in public eye on a public street

donegaLroad

humberklog wrote: »

Have you got a link to that legislation\law?

no, but my cousin was followed home by the squad car one day and his camera confiscated after he was spotted taking a photo of the cash drop. He was told that it was too much of a security risk for the public to be allowed to photograph the cash drop. They took out the film and gave him back the camera (pre digital)

humberklog

donegaLroad wrote: »

no, but my cousin was followed home by the squad car one day and his camera confiscated after he was spotted taking a photo of the cash drop. He was told that it was too much of a security risk for the public to be allowed to photograph the cash drop. They took out the film and gave him back the camera (pre digital)

That *might* have happened but it doesn't make it correct procedure and within the laws. If such a law exists it should be easily found and linked here. I've looked but can't find it nor have I ever heard of it.
If that law exists could you link it as opposed to giving a second hand anicdote as proof?

ForstalDave

humberklog wrote: »

That *might* have happened but it doesn't make it correct procedure and within the laws. If such a law exists it should be easily found and linked here. I've looked but can't find it nor have I ever heard of it.
If that law exists could you link it as opposed to giving a second hand anicdote as proof?

Not all laws are so easily found online the fact is laws can be very old and obscure

gctest50

handlemaster wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/garda-stops-journalists-photographing-slab-murphy-at-polling-station-1.2549485


Is this legal for a garda to stop someone taking photos in public ?

What sort of a cretinous attempt at journalism was it going to be anyway ?

BREAKING NEWS !!!

MAN GOES TO VOTING STATION !!!!

Not exactly Pulitzer Prize stuff

diomed

"While this was taking place, the associate of Murphy’s who told journalists not to take photos was himself photographing the journalists and their cars."
Note to Gerry Adams - this is why we need the Special Criminal Courts.

darkpagandeath

Hang on, Why would it interfere with the voting process ? Taking pictures outside the station, does the picture say who you voted for ?

stefan.kuntz

I wonder did he vote for an 'establishment' party...

gctest50

diomed wrote: »

"While this was taking place, the associate of Murphy’s who told journalists not to take photos was himself photographing the journalists and their cars."
.....

Allegedly

So we had An Irish Times photographer, as well as a photographer and reporter from a different newspaper waiting for someone to arrive to cast his vote

2 cars

An Irish Times photographer, as well as a photographer and reporter from a different newspaper, were waiting in separate cars for Murphy to arrive to cast his vote.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/garda-stops-journalists-photographing-slab-murphy-at-polling-station-1.2549485

and all they could manage for this was a bit of copy and paste , and a few photos of a court

A drama teacher who raped a student when she was about seven years old has been jailed for 10 years.

Kevin Carroll (56) raped the girl in an Offaly school when he held her back after drama class nearly 20 years ago. The victim gave evidence that after the incident a woman at the school told her not to upset her mother by telling her about the rape.

Carroll of Hawthorne Drive, Birr in Offaly had pleaded not guilty at the Central Criminal Court to rape and anal rape at the Offaly school on a date between 1996 and 1998 when the girl was between six and eight. He was convicted on both counts.

http://imgur.com/lEQ1tG3

Irish Times are awake : about 5 hours ago Updated: 13 minutes ago

http://web.archive.org/save/http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/criminal-court/drama-teacher-who-raped-schoolgirl-jailed-for-10-years-1.2549788
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