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North Docklands - last piece of the jigsaw

  • 24-02-2016 8:58am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    One of the largest stretches of development land likely to come on the market in Dublin this year, a six-acre waterfront site at Spencer Dock in the north Dublin docklands, is expected to be of interest to Irish and overseas investors when it comes on the market today.
    Joint selling agents JLL and BNP Paribas Real Estate are guiding €50 million for the land, which is likely to be used for a mixed development between PwC’s headquarters and the planned new Central Bank headquarters.
    The land forms part of a larger site originally owned by CIÉ at Spencer Dock which was due to be developed by Treasury Holdings before the market collapsed and the company was wound up. Receivers Luke Charleton and David Hughes of EY have now been appointed by Nama to handle the sale.
    The site has planning permission for a 169-bedroom hotel, more than 31,580sq m (340,000sq ft) of offices and 165 apartments, with further scope for additional facilities.
    CIE is also set to benefit from the sale, having retained a freehold interest in ground leases at the former railway yard which extends to more than 50 acres. The State transport company is understood to be entitled to either 17.5 per cent of the sale price or a similar stake in ground leases where buildings are completed and let. Treasury had developed only 20 of the 50 acres it had a lean on in Spencer Dock by the time the market crashed.
    Located within the Strategic Development Zone (SDZ), and zoned for a mixed-use development, the site will almost certainly be used for a new urban quarter adjacent to the Spencer Dock development. The land is divided in two by the red Luas line on Mayor Street Upper. The southern portion, overlooking the River Liffey, is earmarked for the commercial element. The 169-bed hotel will be located within the former London and North Western Hotel dating back to the 1800s, with an interlinking eight-storey modern extension.
    In addition to the hotel, there will be two high-quality office buildings. The front block will provide almost 16,722sq m (180,000sq ft) of offices over nine floors including a penthouse with views over docklands. The second office block to be located at the rear of the hotel will have 14,864sq m (160,000sq ft) over seven floors with community and retail facilities at street level.
    The northern section has planning for a six-storey multifamily development providing 165 high-quality apartments with landscaped communal areas. A breakdown shows 23 of the apartments will be one-bedroom units; there will be 117 two-bedroom homes and 25 three-bedroom units. The scheme will include parking for 90 cars and 186 bicycles. The agents say there will also be scope for additional development on the portion of the site fronting on to Mayor Street.
    Luke Charleton, joint receiver with David Hughes of EY, says the site has the potential to house two large headquarters for businesses looking to locate in this area. “We expect a great deal of interest both from local and international investors.”
    Des Lennon says the timing of the sale is favourable given the current shortage of new office space and apartments in Dublin. The developers who secured the site could capitalise on the strong demand from the occupier markets. Further endorsement comes from Mark Forrest of BNP, who says the scale, location and zoning of the site is an opportunity not to be missed for the redevelopment of a large mixed-use site in the docklands.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭MrMorooka


    This location is the area where the entrance to the Docklands DART Underground station was meant to go.

    Does that factor in at all? The railway order was allowed to lapse by the current government last year, so I guess any protection on the site is gone now.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    A condition of the Planning Permission is that a section of land is to be retained in the event of a future decision to build the DART Underground


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭D.L.R.


    MrMorooka wrote: »
    This location is the area where the entrance to the Docklands DART Underground station was meant to go.

    Does that factor in at all? The railway order was allowed to lapse by the current government last year, so I guess any protection on the site is gone now.

    This sale is regarding the adjacent lands, the block between Wapping St and New Wapping St. Not the land above DU itself.

    All the main parties nominally support building DU "at some stage", so you'd assume the route corridor is protected. But as we've no form in delivering underground railways in this country its worth keeping an eye on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    More good news for the North Docklands

    Johnny Ronan and Colony Capital top bidders for docklands site
    Offer of €43m for six-acre waterfront site at Spencer Dock was just ahead of next bi
    The docklands site was previously owned by Ronan’s Treasury Holdings before the company collapsed. It has planning permission for a hotel, offices and apartments
    The docklands site was previously owned by Ronan’s Treasury Holdings before the company collapsed. It has planning permission for a hotel, offices and apartments


    Property developer Johnny Ronan and Colony Capital have emerged as the top bidders for a six-acre waterfront site at Spencer Dock in the north Dublin docklands.
    Their offer of €43 million was marginally ahead of a bid from New Generation, a new homes development company run by Greg Kavanagh.
    Ronan and Colony Capital previously joined forces to purchase a substantial office site at Burlington Road.
    The docklands site was previously owned by Ronan’s Treasury Holdings before the company collapsed. It has planning permission for a 169-bedroom hotel, more than 31,580sq m (340,000 sq ft) of offices and 165 apartments, with scope for additional facilities.
    CIÉ is also set to benefit from the sale, having retained a freehold interest in ground leases at the former railway yard, which extends to more than 50 acres.
    Treasury had developed only 20 of the 50 acres it had a lien on in Spencer Dock when the market crashed.
    The six-acre site is divided in two by the Luas Red line on Mayor Street Upper. The southern portion, overlooking the Liffey, is earmarked for the commercial element.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    Another interesting development from a recent article in the Sunday Business Post


    Tiny sliver of Dublin docklands sells for over €100 million per acre
    86-88 North Wall Quay Pic: DublinDocklands.ie86-88 North Wall Quay
    Former Hales Freight site bought for a price of some €26 million

    A small strip of Dublin docklands land has been sold for an historically high price of more than €100 million per acre, according to sources in the property sector.

    The quarter-acre former Hales Freight site at 86-88 North Wall Quay in Dublin has been acquired for a price of some €26 million, the sources said.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Great to see such pillars of society like Johnny back in business all the same



    the more things change...


  • Posts: 0 Rex Orange Waste


    Bambi wrote: »
    Great to see such pillars of society like Johnny back in business all the same



    the more things change...

    If it results in the building of something decent on the land I seriously don't care if it's him or anyone else.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Dr Crayfish


    If it results in the building of something decent on the land I seriously don't care if it's him or anyone else.

    More property way too expensive for normal working people. Not much use to most of us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    If it results in the building of something decent on the land I seriously don't care if it's him or anyone else.

    We've already seen the results of Johnny boys developments, massive holes in the ground


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    More property way too expensive for normal working people. Not much use to most of us.

    All residential development is good for tackling the cost of housing. Building high end apartments means those with the cash can move out of their average apartment and that frees up their old apartment for someone else, it's a ripple effect.

    Similarly if we were to build fit-for-purpose student accommodation, that frees up a lot of studios and house shares for other people. It's all related.

    In any recovering economy it's going to be the high end apartments that get built first because they'll sell for a price that justify the cost of building them. Remember the cost of a new apartments is 40% taxes and easily another 15% on unnecessary design features, e.g. underground parking spaces for largely carless households, a boiler in every unit when communal heating would be much cheaper and greener and so on. These costs mean it's impossible to get a half decent place for under €150k in Dublin, and indeed it's not worth anyone's while building them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    From todays Irish Times;



    Dublin docklands site for student accommodation fetches €20m
    Site beside Point Village has planning permission for 935 bed spaces in two blocks.

    A new development company formed by UK and Irish investors is to proceed with the construction of a substantial residential complex for students beside the Point Village in the north Dublin docklands.
    The consortium has outbid about half a dozen competitors, paying more than €20 million – more than €2 million above the guide price – for the well-located site of 2.38 acres (0.96 of a hectare) with planning permission for 935 student bed spaces.
    It is located next to a Luas station and was sold by Declan McDonald of receiver PwC on behalf of Wintertide Ltd and two adjoining land owners, the National Asset Management Authority and CIÉ.

    The sale comes at a time when about a dozen similar residential schemes are either under way or in the pipeline. The off-campus projects under construction include developments in Gardiner Street, Dorset Street and Blackpits which alone will provide about 1,300 bed spaces. The largest single scheme of about 2,000 spaces will be at Grangegorman to cater for students attending the newly relocated DIT.
    High-spec scheme
    The high-spec scheme planned for Point Village, designed by TP Bennett Architects, who specialise in student accommodation, will include two seven-storey blocks with a mix of student clusters containing between three and eight bed spaces as well as twin and single study units.
    One of the two blocks will accommodate 589 bed spaces, while the other building will have 346 bed spaces as well as 866sq m of retail floor space designed to attract interest from retailers and cafe and restaurant operators. There will also be a further 462m of floor space set aside for “enterprise and community use”.
    Donal Kellegher of agents Cushman & Wakefield, who handled the sale of the site, says the planned student facility would benefit from a new street under construction between North wall Quay and Sheriff Street as well as the planned pedestrianised bridge linking North Wall Quay and the south docklands.
    Dublin universities provide on-campus accommodation for only 6,000 of the 79,000 student population. The Higher Education Authority has forecast that third-level student numbers in Ireland are likely to increase from 168,000 in 2014 to 193,000 in 2018.


    This influx of people living in the area should herald the opening up of bars , restaurants and shops in the surrounding area.


  • Posts: 0 Rex Orange Waste


    That's excellent, nearly 1000 students who won't be living in houses or apartments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭NiallBoo


    cgcsb wrote: »
    a boiler in every unit when communal heating would be much cheaper and greener and so on.

    Why this rule in particular? It seems insane.

    Weren't there plans in the area for piped heating water from power stations at some point?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    Mulryan's Dublin docks foray is a vote of confidence in economy.


    Developer Sean Mulryan is set to make a return to these shores on Thursday with the launch by the Ballymore Group and its joint venture partners, Singapore-based Oxley Holdings, of its €111m Dublin Landings commercial and residential development in the city's docklands.
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    Mulryan, who has stated his determination to exit Nama by the end of this year with his companies' estimated €2.6bn debt to the agency repaid in full, will be joined for the occasion by his son John, who works as Ballymore's UK managing director, and Oxley's executive chairman and CEO, Ching Chiat Kwong.
    Located next to the Central Bank's new headquarters, the Dublin Landings development is set to extend to over 1m sqft. The first phase of the project got under way earlier this year and will see the construction of two office blocks at 72-80 North Wall Quay.

    All told, the development, which is being funded through a mix of Oxley's own financial resources and bank borrowings, will, upon completion, consist of approximately 678,000 sqft of office space and 270 apartments, each one of which will come with its own car parking and bicycle space.
    Nama, and by extension the Irish taxpayer, is set to benefit from the development owing to the State agency's decision to retain the freehold interest in the land. As well as receiving a secure income stream once the 2.35 hectare site has been developed and let, Nama also stands to receive a percentage of the future proceeds arising from the sale of any of the Dublin Landings buildings.

    Mulryan's determination to work with Oxley to create a significant new quarter in Dublin's docklands saw the recent appointment of the former artistic director of the Gate Theatre, Michael Colgan, as Dublin Landings culture and arts adviser. Colgan has worked with Ballymore in the past, providing Mulryan with advice on theatre and culture in Berlin when the Ballymore Group owned the Ku'Damm-Karree shopping centre on the famous Kurfurstendamm boulevard.
    Ballymore's return to large-scale commercial development in Dublin will be viewed by industry observers as something of a bellwether for the strength of the ongoing economic recovery. Notwithstanding its commencement in recent years of a number of housing developments in Dublin and Kildare, the group has limited its involvement in the Irish market, choosing instead to focus on the numerous sites Mulryan shrewdly acquired in London's docklands in the early 1990s at a time when the area had been left to fall into decay.

    The development and sale of those sites has allowed Ballymore to repay its Nama debt, and has seen the group receive numerous industry awards. The latest of these came in July, with Ballymore named Large Developer of the Year at Property Week magazine's RESI awards.
    Sunday Independent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,084 ✭✭✭✭neris


    subpar wrote: »
    Mulryan's Dublin docks foray is a vote of confidence in economy.


    Developer Sean Mulryan is set to make a return to these shores on Thursday with the launch by the Ballymore Group and its joint venture partners, Singapore-based Oxley Holdings, of its €111m Dublin Landings commercial and residential development in the city's docklands.
    SHARE
    Mulryan, who has stated his determination to exit Nama by the end of this year with his companies' estimated €2.6bn debt to the agency repaid in full, will be joined for the occasion by his son John, who works as Ballymore's UK managing director, and Oxley's executive chairman and CEO, Ching Chiat Kwong.
    Located next to the Central Bank's new headquarters, the Dublin Landings development is set to extend to over 1m sqft. The first phase of the project got under way earlier this year and will see the construction of two office blocks at 72-80 North Wall Quay.

    All told, the development, which is being funded through a mix of Oxley's own financial resources and bank borrowings, will, upon completion, consist of approximately 678,000 sqft of office space and 270 apartments, each one of which will come with its own car parking and bicycle space.
    Nama, and by extension the Irish taxpayer, is set to benefit from the development owing to the State agency's decision to retain the freehold interest in the land. As well as receiving a secure income stream once the 2.35 hectare site has been developed and let, Nama also stands to receive a percentage of the future proceeds arising from the sale of any of the Dublin Landings buildings.

    Mulryan's determination to work with Oxley to create a significant new quarter in Dublin's docklands saw the recent appointment of the former artistic director of the Gate Theatre, Michael Colgan, as Dublin Landings culture and arts adviser. Colgan has worked with Ballymore in the past, providing Mulryan with advice on theatre and culture in Berlin when the Ballymore Group owned the Ku'Damm-Karree shopping centre on the famous Kurfurstendamm boulevard.
    Ballymore's return to large-scale commercial development in Dublin will be viewed by industry observers as something of a bellwether for the strength of the ongoing economic recovery. Notwithstanding its commencement in recent years of a number of housing developments in Dublin and Kildare, the group has limited its involvement in the Irish market, choosing instead to focus on the numerous sites Mulryan shrewdly acquired in London's docklands in the early 1990s at a time when the area had been left to fall into decay.

    The development and sale of those sites has allowed Ballymore to repay its Nama debt, and has seen the group receive numerous industry awards. The latest of these came in July, with Ballymore named Large Developer of the Year at Property Week magazine's RESI awards.
    Sunday Independent

    I see Johnny Ronan is getting the ball started on something down in the docks area aswell though could be southside. article on the indo site saying he did a deal on friday on a site and had guys in working on the site on friday evening. Seems that all the lads who ended up in NAMA are back on the pigsback


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    neris wrote: »
    I see Johnny Ronan is getting the ball started on something down in the docks area aswell though could be southside. article on the indo site saying he did a deal on friday on a site and had guys in working on the site on friday evening. Seems that all the lads who ended up in NAMA are back on the pigsback

    Its in the North Docklands between Spencer Dock and Castleforbes Rd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,084 ✭✭✭✭neris


    did he/treasury not own that site before?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    ballymoregroup.com/project/detail/dublin-landings

    The above gives a good overview of the new OXLEY/BALLYMORE development


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    Latest updates from todays Irish Times.



    Twelve cranes were located north of the Liffey – a rise of two or 20 per cent on last month – while this number could be set to rise rapidly as clearance work is proceeding at a number of substantial sites in the north docklands.
    The first of these, the former “Tedcastles” site on North Wall Quay close to the Point Depot, is to accommodate a seven to nine-storey over-basement office development of 38,137sq m (410,503sq ft) in two linked blocks. One of these blocks will be accessed from Point Square and a new north-south street to run from North Wall Quay to Sheriff Street Upper.

    Another large site, this time between the new Central Bank building and PwC offices at Spencer Dock, is also being cleared as the wraps come off restoration works on the former British Rail hotel which will front a substantial mixed-use scheme designed by architects Henry J Lyons at Spencer Place.
    The listed hotel, which was last in use as offices for Irish Rail, is to be connected to a new eight-storey building to create a 168-bedroom hotel spread over 8,243sq m (88,727sq ft). Also included in this development is a nine-storey office block of 21,255sq m (228,787sq ft) and a seven-storey 15,925sq m (171,415sq ft) building with office, retail and community uses.
    Next door to the former British Rail hotel is the North Wall Quay railway station which is included in plans for Dart Underground. The first of two new pedestrian areas planned to cross the Liffey is to be built in front of the station.
    Both the British Railway Hotel and the North Wall railway station were significant departure points for emigrants and Irish volunteers bound for the trenches in the first World War. They were, in fact, the last buildings many set foot in on Irish soil given that their ships left from the nearby quays.
    New headquarters
    Meanwhile, construction work has started on the VHI’s new headquarters behind the Abbey Theatre. Designed by architects McCauley Daye O’Connell, part of the structure will be over the former Scots Presbyterian church hall on Abbey Street in Dublin 1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    More for today's Irish Times


    Dublin Port plans to ‘reorder area’ to open up to city
    Aim is to ‘soften hard edge’ between Port Centre and still-developing north Docklands.

    Dublin Port, for long a nearly enclosed semi-industrial estate at the eastern end of Docklands, is planning to open up to the city with an imaginative scheme to reorder the entire area around its own headquarters off East Wall Road.
    Project manager Jim Kelleher, who was responsible for the outstanding Diving Bell restoration on Sir John Rogerson’s Quay, says the aim is to “soften the hard edge” between Port Centre and the still-developing north Docklands area.
    Port Centre, designed by Scott Tallon Walker and completed in 1981, has been marooned behind a stone wall that extends all along the east side of the heavily trafficked East Wall Road, which is extremely hostile to pedestrians.
    Standing six storeys high on a podium, the new building replaced the port’s old headquarters at the Ballast Office, on the corner of Aston Quay and Westmoreland Street, which in turn was demolished and replaced by a half-hearted “replica”.

    An architectural competition in 2014 led to Darmody Architects winning the commission to create a significant public space around Port Centre, including removal of parts of the unlisted stone boundary wall dating from the 1880s.
    Principal architect Tim Darmody says his scheme is “all about port-city integration”, with an impressive set of gates on East Wall Road leading to a plaza in front of the port company’s headquarters and a landscaped “garden” to the south of it.
    A new boundary made from pre-rusted Corten steel panels will replace the late 19th-century stone wall at southern end of the two-acre site, with a relocated 10-tonne Stothert & Pitt crane, dating from the 1950s, rearing up above the new wall.
    This dramatic installation will be “painted, illuminated, celebrated”, as Jim Kelleher says, as a totem for Dublin Port and its history, clearly visible to motorists driving north across the East Link Bridge towards the Port Tunnel and M50 motorway.
    Separately, Dublin City Council is planning to remove the roundabout on the north side of the bridge, replacing it with a set of traffic lights, and “reorder” East Wall Road to make it less intimidating and more attractive to pedestrians and cyclists.
    The €5.3 million scheme to open up Dublin Port to the city, scheduled for completion next autumn, will tie in with plans to relocate visiting cruise liners from the nether end of its vast estate to a pair of new berths just east of the bridge.
    Dublin Port Company is also planning a 3km “great green line” – in the words of its dynamic chief executive, Eamon O’Reilly – along the northern fringe of the port, providing a new recreational route for cyclists and pedestrians to discover. It would, in effect, form an extension to the “S2S” (Sutton to Sandycove) cycle route, which is taking years to implement. The port company also has plans for a pedestrian and cycle overbridge at Promenade Road, leading into the port area.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Grand plans indeed but would like to see more high rise than just 7 or 9 storeys. Also filling an area with 80 or 90% offices makes it a very dead place to live at weekends.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭newacc2015


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Also filling an area with 80 or 90% offices makes it a very dead place to live at weekends.

    True, but it is far better than building more lifeless offices in horrible places like Citywest. At least when you build an office in the city, nearly all the workers use public transport or cycle as most new offices generally only have a handful of spaces for hundreds of workers as driving in most of the city is not an option

    Look at this sizeable office block with only 27 car spaces

    http://www.daft.ie/dublin/commercial-property-for-rent/offices-for-rent/one-molesworth-street-dublin-2-dublin-253716/

    If that was in Sandyford or Citywest, you can be sure there would probably be well over 100 car spaces.

    The IFSC is not that nice of a place to live in IMO, it has a lot of rough areas around it. There is not real character to it and food/drink places are linked. Of course if there was more people living there, there would be more. But none of the buildings even have retails/food space on the ground floor. The massive offices are designed that you dont leave them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    Facebook to move into Beckett Building on East Road

    If the rumours are true, social network giant Facebook has epic growth plans for Dublin.

    Facebook is understood to be close to signing a lease for a building in Dublin that will house 1,000 new workers.

    According to reports, the company will acquire a new premises near the International Financial Services Centre (IFSC).

    Facebook currently employs more than 1,500 people at its international headquarters at Silicon Docks.

    The expansion will see the social network locate 1,000 additional workers north of the Liffey, adding to the growing cluster of digital enterprises already in this region, including Yahoo, Dogpatch Labs and Cisco.

    According to Bloomberg, the building is owned by the Comer brothers.

    It is a 110,000 sq ft building located between East Point Business Park and The Point Village.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    Planning Permission Granted for large site clearance works between the Point Village and the New Central Bank.


    David Carson, Statutory Receiver of Crossman Properties Limited (In Receivership) and David Carson acting as Statutory Receiver of Chinook Investments (In Receivership), intend to apply for planning permission for development at a site of 1.44 ha (City Block 9) bound by North Wall Quay to the south, Castleforbes Road to the west, Mayor Street Upper to the north and vacant land to the east, and site of 0.57 ha (City Block 3) bound by Mayor Street Upper to the south, New Wapping Street to the west, Sheriff Street Upper to the north and the existing Northbank Apartment development and vacant land to the east. The development consists of the following: - In City Block 9, the demolition of 5 no. vacant buildings with a gfa of 7,363 sq.m including a former retail showroom, 3 no. warehouse premises and a three storey office building- the former premises of Dublin Maritime Limited. Demolition of existing boundary wall and fence on Castleforbes Road/ Mayor Street Upper and demolition of existing boundary wall between the former Tile Style warehouse and former Dublin Maritime Office building/ - In City Block 3 the demolition of 4 no. vacant buildings with a gfa of 5,948 sq.m located to the west of the site including 3 no. light industrial/ warehousing/ manufacturing buildings and the former Stewarts garage premises. - The proposed development includes all associated and ancillary works, including site development works. The application relates to a proposed development within a Strategic Development Zone Planning Scheme area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    Update from the Irish Times
    1st March

    Site clearance work
    For example, site clearance work has just started beside the Gibson Hotel to prepare for a 935 bed space student accommodation scheme in two seven-storey blocks. A consortium of investors paid more than €20 million for the 2.38-acre site only last September. About a dozen similar residential schemes are either under way or in the pipeline.
    Nearby, diggers are busy clearing the way for the €600 million mixed-use Spencer Place scheme on a six-acre site beside the new Central Bank on North Wall Quay. This is perhaps the biggest project underway in the capital and, when complete, will have more than a million square feet of space.
    Next door at the Dublin Landings development Ballymore Oxley has just confirmed that it plans to start construction on three further office blocks which will deliver an additional 30,679sq m (330,000sq ft) of office accommodation by the end of 2019.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    Docklands see 12 % Rise in Property Prices

    A new Docklands Residential Report has been published today by Owen Reilly, estate agents in the Docklands.

    The report positions Dublin Docklands firmly as the prime residential market in Dublin’s city centre. The average sale price per square metre (PSQM) increased by 11.7% in 2016 – from €5,031 (€467 per sqft) in 2015 to €5,619 (€522 per sqft) in 2016.

    A highest price of €10,000 PSQM (€929 per sqft) is noted for a two-bedroom penthouse at Grand Canal Dock. The average fourth quarter asking price reported by the firm of €497,907 was a very striking 90% higher than the fourth quarter average asking price of €261,496 for Dublin City Centre overall, as reported by Daft.ie in their 2016 House Price Report published last week. (This is partially explained by the higher proportion of luxury apartments and penthouses in Docklands.)

    The time on the market figures for the year noted in the report are also striking with the average time on the market down from 8.4 weeks in 2015 to 5.7 weeks in 2016. Overall, the average monthly rent in Docklands was noted to have increased by 12.1% with a highest rent PSQM achieved for a two-bedroom apartment at Grand Canal Dock – a rent of €430 per square metre (€40 per sqft).

    The report further informs of a market dominated by investors with 72% of properties bought for investment and 76% of purchases made with cash. It is estimated that 72% of buyers were Irish while 85% of tenants who rented from Owen Reilly in 2016 were from overseas.

    Commenting on the report, Owen Reilly said, "In Dublin Docklands we would hope to see some tangible positive effects of Brexit, and the residential developments currently under construction hold great promise.”

    He added, "The transformation of brownfield sites and the addition of residential stock of a far higher specification will add to the appeal of Docklands, will lift all neighbourhoods and will lift the value of all existing stock."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭Fred_Johnson


    Anyone have any update on the offices planned for the TedCastles site, just East of the Point? They got planning permission in 2015 but nothing happening.

    I understand the Exo is to start construction in Q3 2017, unless anyone has more up to date information.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    More very good news from the Irish Times



    Ronan Group Real Estate (RGRE) has sought a revised planning formula for slightly over half its six-acre waterfront site at Spencer Dock in the north Dublin docklands.
    This part of the site, to be known as Spencer Place, has been targeted for a development extending to 66,599sq m (717,000sq ft). The four proposed buildings will include a 212-bed hotel, restaurant/retail units and 46,184sq m (500,000sq ft) of LEED platinum-rated office accommodation.
    Prior to Ronan acquiring the site last year for a reported €43 million, the receivers involved had obtained planning permission for a redevelopment that included 31,580sq m (340,000sq ft) of offices and a 169-room hotel.
    The company has now opted for a larger and more architecturally striking development. Its notable features will include a seven-storey glazed atrium that will be wider than Grafton Street and three stories of internal gardens to provide high-quality public pedestrian routes through the site.
    The former British Rail Hotel, a redbrick protected structure at 58-59 North Wall Quay, is to be refurbished as a 2,688sq m office block with substantial restaurant and bar areas at ground floor and basement levels. New modern offices and a hotel will be built to the rear and side.
    The hotel will be set across two separate buildings, with unique glazed pedestrian links on each floor connecting the two buildings. A substantial basement will be constructed beneath to house some 1,000 bike spaces, 168 car parking spaces and a fitness centre of about 929sq m (10,000sq ft)
    Well connected
    The proposed office buildings will appeal to a wide range of occupiers given its location at the heart of the docklands. The location looks set to become is one of the best-connected areas of Dublin given its proximity to transport links, including two Luas stations, the Docklands train station, Connolly station and several bus routes.
    Planned capital projects, such as a new pedestrian bridge linking Spencer Dock and Sir John Rogerson’s Quay, along with the Dart Underground project,are likely to be of great benefit to the development.
    The remainder of RGRE’s six-acre site, which is not subject to the current planning application, has significant space for further development and already has planning in place for 165 apartments, comprising 23 one-bed, 117 two-bed and 25 three-bed apartments.
    It is estimated that the overall size of RGRE’s scheme will be about one million square feet, including developments not part of the current application, and will complete the original Spencer Dock masterplan.
    These latest plans will be an impressive addition to the area in which Ronan has already developed an estimated two million square feet of space, including the Convention Centre, the offices of professional services firm PwC, and the 620 Spencer Dock Apartments.
    Shane Whelan, development director at RGRE, said the recent planning application was the culmination of months of positive engagement with Dublin City Council. The proposed design incorporated the best architectural elements from around Europe, he added.
    “I expect that the development will create the new dynamic heartbeat within the evolving development of the docklands area.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    The National Treasury Management Agency (NTMA) has opted for a considerably larger new headquarters than originally planned at the Dublin Landings development under construction in the north docks.
    The State agency had initially opted for about 7,710sq m (83,000sq ft) in the first block under construction next to the new Central Bank. It has now decided to rent the entire building, giving it an extra 5,574sq m (60,000sq ft) of space. This will bring the overall capacity to about 13,284sq m (142,986sq ft).
    Both lettings will be at the same rent level – €538/sq m (€50/sq ft) and will run for 25 years with break options in year 15.
    The NTMA and its Nama subsidiary are currently renting about 9,290sq m (100,000sq ft) in the Treasury Building on Grand Canal Street under a number of leases, some of which are due to run out while others have break clause.

    In the meantime, an attempt by Percy Nominees to sell a 33.33 per cent freehold interest in the 1989 Treasury block and a proportion of the rent roll for €33 million has failed to attract a buyer. A company set up by Johnny Ronan and Paddy McKillen controls 66.67 per cent of the rent roll from the building.
    Building 1 in the Dublin Landings is expected to be ready for fit out next February or March.
    Sean Mulryan’s Ballymore company is partnering Singapore’s Oxley on the €700 million docklands development, which will include 65,000sq m (700,000sq ft) of office and retail space, with five office building due to be completed by 2020.
    Development of a second block with about 7,432sq m (80,000sq ft) is well under way in the mixed scheme, which will include 273 apartments.
    The amenities on the 2.35-hectare site on North Wall Quay will include rooftop gardens and terraces, a gym extending to 1,000sq m (10,000sq ft) and underground car parking.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    Big Increase in Construction Activity in North Docklands
    Irish Times


    Much of this marked increase in the pace of development work is located close to the new Central Bank building on North Wall Quay.
    Work has just started, for example, on the Paddy McKillen-backed Oakmount’s new 60-bedroom hotel at 82 North Wall Quay. The five-storey project, which involves the conversion of a derelict warehouse, will include a roof-top bar, restaurant, coffee shop and co-working office space at basement level. Designed by ODOS Architects, the €15 million project should be ready by late next year.
    Ronan Corbett, head of offices at Cushman & Wakefield, believes the north docks will see the next wave of office development as there are very few sites or refurbishment opportunities left on the southside.
    Office space
    “The north docks will be the place to be,” he says, “as it has fast-track planning with special development zone status, and can accommodate big floor plates.”
    Demand for office space in the Dublin market is accelerating. Andrew Cunningham, director of offices at Savills, says: “We believe that 2017 may see the highest single year of office lettings for the Dublin office market.”
    With the Irish economy expected to continue its recovery and a number of significant developments due to enter the construction phase shortly, it is likely the number of cranes on Dublin’s skyline will increase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    Northbank sold well above its guide price. - todays papers


    One of the last remaining large-scale Dublin city centre apartment developments offered for sale in a single lot by the National Asset Management Agency (Nama), has been acquired by Kennedy Wilson for €45 million.

    The selling agents Hooke & MacDonald were quoting a guide price of €37.5 million for the 124 apartments at the North Bank. The development was built before the property crash by Liam Carroll’s Zoe Developments.

    Northbank is located just 50 metres away from Kennedy Wilson’s existing 84-unit Liffey Trust apartments and 200 metres from the new Central Bank.

    The 124 apartments in North Bank comprise 31 one-bedroom units, 64 two-bedroom homes and 29 three-bedroom apartments. There are also 85 car-parking spaces and a vacant ground floor commercial building extending to 1,530sq m (16,468sq ft), which Hooke & MacDonald estimated would eventually bring in a rent of around €150,000 per annum.

    The apartments were substantially upgraded by David Carson, receiver of Jarmar Properties Limited, prior to the sale.

    “We are particularly pleased to secure Northbank as one of the few remaining unbroken 100+ unit multifamily assets left to trade in Dublin. The North Docks is a rapidly expanding sub market where we want to grow our footprint,” said Mary Ricks, chief executive of Kennedy Wilson Europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭Fred_Johnson


    Whats the latest with the North Docklands. We have TedCastles and Spencer Dock now under construction, along with Dublin Landings. Anything else going on? When is Exo starting? I know 360 apartments got planning permission just north of Dublin Landings, wonder when they start construction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    Further interesting Development on the Way

    Fromm todays Irish Independent:

    Several big names drawn from the ranks of Ireland's 'old school' and 'new wave' of property developers are in the running to partner with CIE on the delivery of two major office-led schemes at Connolly Station and Grand Canal Quay in Dublin.

    The selection of development partners for both projects will be down for decision at the end of February when the board of CIE convenes for its regular monthly meeting. Directors at the State transport company will be asked to consider tender proposals from upwards of a dozen parties for both Connolly Quarter in the IFSC and Boston Sidings in the city's rapidly-emerging south docks.

    In the case of the Connolly Quarter, US-headquartered real estate giant Hines' Irish subsidiary, Hines Ireland, has submitted what several property industry sources described as a "very strong proposal", and is being viewed as a serious contender in the competition for the delivery of CIE's plans for the 3.2 hectare (7.9 acre) site it has next to Connolly Station.

    Upon completion, the scheme for which CIE received a 10-year planning permission in 2012, is expected to include almost 82,000 sq m (883,000 sq ft) of mixed-use space, comprising 50,000 sq m (540,000 sq ft) of offices, a hotel, and apartments

    The single largest office space element of the scheme is an up to seven-storey, 13,450 sq m (145,000 sq ft) block at the junction of Seville Place and the construction of a new street which will link Seville Place and Sheriff Street Lower.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭technocrat


    subpar wrote: »
    Further interesting Development on the Way

    Fromm todays Irish Independent:

    Several big names drawn from the ranks of Ireland's 'old school' and 'new wave' of property developers are in the running to partner with CIE on the delivery of two major office-led schemes at Connolly Station and Grand Canal Quay in Dublin.

    The selection of development partners for both projects will be down for decision at the end of February when the board of CIE convenes for its regular monthly meeting. Directors at the State transport company will be asked to consider tender proposals from upwards of a dozen parties for both Connolly Quarter in the IFSC and Boston Sidings in the city's rapidly-emerging south docks.

    In the case of the Connolly Quarter, US-headquartered real estate giant Hines' Irish subsidiary, Hines Ireland, has submitted what several property industry sources described as a "very strong proposal", and is being viewed as a serious contender in the competition for the delivery of CIE's plans for the 3.2 hectare (7.9 acre) site it has next to Connolly Station.

    Upon completion, the scheme for which CIE received a 10-year planning permission in 2012, is expected to include almost 82,000 sq m (883,000 sq ft) of mixed-use space, comprising 50,000 sq m (540,000 sq ft) of offices, a hotel, and apartments

    The single largest office space element of the scheme is an up to seven-storey[, 13,450 sq m (145,000 sq ft) block at the junction of Seville Place and the construction of a new street which will link Seville Place and Sheriff Street Lower.

    Surely they can go higher than this considering the housing and commercial property shortage.
    Typical lack of ambition from CIE :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭Ben D Bus


    technocrat wrote: »
    Surely they can go higher than this considering the housing and commercial property shortage.
    Typical lack of ambition from CIE :rolleyes:

    Yes, obviously it's CIEs fault as every private developer in the country is amazing us daily with their newly finished skyscrapers :rolleyes:

    Just as a reminder, CIE is also a partner in the proposed actual high rise development at Tara St.

    Not defending anyone, just ticked off at the automatic "it's CIE so anyone else would have done better" attitude.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    technocrat wrote: »
    Surely they can go higher than this considering the housing and commercial property shortage.
    Typical lack of ambition from CIE :rolleyes:

    Typical height restrictions by DCC, you mean?

    CIE's Tara Street site was one of 4-5 sites in Dublin where tall buildings are said to be allowed. Despite being within the limit set by DCC in its own LAP, they rejected it on the grounds of height.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    What the finished Docklands will look like.

    https://youtu.be/yn9y9cg0o-k


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What's the latest on the removal of the point roundabout? There was public consultation done over two years ago. The Exo building construction has begun but we're still stuck with an inadequate roundabout at an incredibly busy junction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    cisk wrote: »
    What's the latest on the removal of the point roundabout? There was public consultation done over two years ago. The Exo building construction has begun but we're still stuck with an inadequate roundabout at an incredibly busy junction.

    Haven’t heard anything in a few months. It’s meant to be changing into a t-junction with traffic lights.

    Personally I’d love to see a dancing policeman directing traffic on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    From todays Irish Independent

    Bidders Fight it Out for Prime North Docklands Site


    One of the last remaining prime development sites in the Dublin Docklands and its strategic development zone (SDZ) is going on the market today for a guide price of €110m.

    Extending over 5.91 acres to the rear of the Central Bank's new headquarters at North Wall Quay, CB3 (City Block 3) Docklands is being offered for sale in three lots by joint agents Cushman & Wakefield and Savills on the instruction of David Carson of Nama-appointed receivers Deloitte.

    Lot 1 is guiding a price of €45m and comes with full planning permission for the development of 347 residential units on 1.44 hectares (3.55 acres). At €65m, Lot 2 has a pending planning application for an office-led mixed use scheme of 30,890 sq m (332,497 sq ft) distributed across a 0.95 hectare (2.35 acre) site. Lot 3, meanwhile, incorporates the entire CB3 portfolio.

    The competition is expected to be intense, owing to its pivotal location on Mayor Street Upper and Castleforbes Road, and at the heart of the Dublin Docklands SDZ.

    Prospective purchasers will be encouraged by the performance of the Dublin office market in 2017, with five lettings of over 100,000 sq ft secured. In one of those transactions, the NTMA agreed to rent over 140,000 sq ft of office space at Dublin Landings, the one million square foot mixed-use scheme being built by developer Sean Mulryan's Ballymore beside the Central Bank's new headquarters, and within a short walk of the CB3 site.

    Other major projects under way within the immediate area include developer Johnny Ronan's scheme at Spencer Place, Blackrock's Point Campus, Glenveagh's North Block, and the Exo Building at the Point Village.

    In terms of its residential offering, CB3 has full planning permission for 347 units comprising 340 apartments (103 one-beds, 191 two-beds and 46 three-beds), and seven three-bed two-storey houses. Planning permission was secured in advance of the new apartment design standards published recently by Housing Minister Eoghan Murphy. According to the selling agents, more recent feasibility studies suggest that these revised standards could see the residential density on the CB3 site increased to between 400 and 450 units.

    The CB3 commercial site, designed by Reddy Architecture + Urbanism, has a pending planning application for a substantial office scheme laid out over three blocks with some retail space provided at ground level.



    This development will complete the gaps in the grid comprising Castleforbes Road / Mayor St / Upper Sheriff St and will provide the footfall for new retail outlets.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    I heard the government has forced DCC to lift height restrictions in Dublin, hopefully not to late. I would hope that at least one site in the docks will be allowed go high rise considering the amount of land DCC has wasted on suburban office park stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    Good to see that a significant number of residential developments can be built. However, I'll believe it when I see it. Living in the area myself there is nothing but offices planned. Our apartment block was bought by Kennedy Wilson at the end of last year (from NAMA) and they are sitting on the majority of apartments being unoccupied. I presume they are holding on in order to increase demand on the rental market by stifling supply but perhaps they have big renovation plans in order to sell/let the block for a significant price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭roycon111


    Good to see that a significant number of residential developments can be built. However, I'll believe it when I see it. Living in the area myself there is nothing but offices planned. Our apartment block was bought by Kennedy Wilson at the end of last year (from NAMA) and they are sitting on the majority of apartments being unoccupied. I presume they are holding on in order to increase demand on the rental market by stifling supply but perhaps they have big renovation plans in order to sell/let the block for a significant price.
    They need to have correct planning and fire compliance to let them out. It wouldn't make any sense to leave apartments empty unless you were trying to make less money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    Glenveagh Purchases Castleforbes Business Park for 60m and plans to Build Apartments . From todays Irish Independent


    The four recently acquired sites include a six-acre site at Castleforbes in Dublin's North Docklands which cost about €60m.

    It has the potential to deliver more than 650 units, subject to planning permission.

    It is adjacent to the East Road site which the group acquired last January and provides Glenveagh's Living division with potential to deliver about 1,100 apartments.


    This new site adjoins their recently acquired site --- The Hire Co Yard on East Road and gives them a huge plot of development land which will gentrify the area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    Revenue Commissioners and SalesForce to move into North Doclands


    tech giant Salesforce is in exclusive talks to lease offices in Dublin's Docklands with space for as many as 5,000 staff.

    The global firm has entered into exclusive talks with developer Johnny Ronan to rent all 500,000 sq ft (46,184 sq m) of the office space Ronan Group Real Estate (RGRE) is developing at Spencer Dock, the Irish Independent can reveal.

    It is understood the US-headquartered company considered a number of potential locations in the Dublin Docklands, including Ballymore's Dublin Landings scheme and the Exo Building at the Point Village before deciding on Spencer Place.

    While the 965 employees at Salesforce's EMEA headquarters are currently divided between offices at the Atrium Building and One Central Park in the Sandyford Business District (SBD) in south Dublin, the company's future move to the Docklands will give it significant scope to expand its Irish workforce.

    The offices at Spencer Place will have the capacity to accommodate between 4,000 and 5,000 personnel.

    Salesforce's new EMEA headquarters are set to be developed as part of a wider mixed-use scheme which will extend to 717,000 sq ft (66,599 sq m).

    Apart from providing Salesforce with 500,000 sq ft of LEED platinum-rated offices, Spencer Place will include three storeys of internal landscaped garden and breakout areas, 1,000 bike spaces, a 10,000 sq ft gym, two hotels and premium retail space, bars and restaurants.

    RGRE's delivery of Spencer Place represents the culmination of the original Spencer Dock masterplan which saw the development of around two million square feet of commercial and residential space including the Convention Centre Dublin, the Dublin headquarters of PwC, Credit Suisse International's offices at Kilmore House and 620 apartments at Spencer Dock.

    While Spencer Place is vast in terms of its physical scale, it accounts for just over half of the six acres RGRE currently controls at Spencer Dock.

    News of Mr Ronan's negotiations with Salesforce represents just the latest in a series of major moves in the Docklands.

    Earlier this week, the Irish Independent reported that the OPW is in discussions with Ballymore in relation to the potential relocation of several hundred personnel from the Revenue Commissioners to the developer's hugely-successful Dublin Landings scheme.

    The Revenue's interest in taking space at Dublin Landings followed on from a report on the expected sale of No 2 Dublin Landings to a South Korean institutional investor for around €105m - or some €6m above the €98.8m guide price it carried when it was brought to the market last May. The Asian fund is understood to have fended off rival bids from at least four other parties: one Korean and three European. Located next to Spencer Place and the new headquarters of the Central Bank of Ireland at North Wall Quay, the overall Dublin Landings development will extend to 1,001,043 sq ft (93,000 sq m).

    All told, the scheme will comprise five blocks, 298 apartments, restaurants, bars, retail, and landscaped gardens.

    Around 6,000 people are expected to work and live at Dublin Landings once it is finished.

    In another significant development for the Dublin Docklands, US-headquartered real estate firm Kennedy Wilson is, as the Irish Independent revealed last Saturday, set to acquire City Block 3 (CB3), a 5.91 acre site to the rear of the Central Bank's new headquarters at North Wall Quay. Located to the rear of the Central Bank and Dublin Landings, the site is recognised as one of the last remaining prime development sites in the Docklands and its strategic development zone (SDZ).

    CB3 comes with full planning permission for 347 residential units on 1.44 hectares (3.55 acres), and a pending planning application for an office-led mixed-use scheme of 30,890 sq m (332,497 sq ft) distributed across a 0.95 hectare (2.35 acre) site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,159 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    CB3 has a manmade lake from previous excavations for foundations on it. Sightly more awkward site than most


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    Last waterfront site on North Docklands goes on sale for 120mEuro. The site bounded by Castleforebes Road / North Wall Quay / North Wall Ave and Mayor St - formally Maritime House , Chetham Warehouse and Hales Freight Building


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZWJ4qJ_e0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    subpar wrote: »
    Last waterfront site on North Docklands goes on sale for 120mEuro. The site bounded by Castleforebes Road / North Wall Quay / North Wall Ave and Mayor St - formally Maritime House , Chetham Warehouse and Hales Freight Building
    It's tragic to think we had this massive landbank close to the city centre, and most of it has gone to building 4 and 5 story commercial buildings. We could have built an apartment for everyone who wanted one if we'd only managed to overcome the objections to building upwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭subpar


    hmmm wrote: »
    It's tragic to think we had this massive landbank close to the city centre, and most of it has gone to building 4 and 5 story commercial buildings. We could have built an apartment for everyone who wanted one if we'd only managed to overcome the objections to building upwards.

    We are dealing with Dublin's Central Business District it was never going to be set aside exclusively for housing. There is a significant number of new apartments included in the plans for this site none the less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Some bankrupt developers in Nama are like Lazarus. Some Docklands owners sunk now forever.

    Strange world.

    Anyway, I was looking up and down from outside the Ferryman pub the other day at the Northside developments, and my god it is just so squat and generic. There was so much potential to go high rise in that area. Lost for now. Same for the South Docklands.

    DCC and ABP had free rein in that area. What or whom would it have harmed to go high there?


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