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Dolphin dies after being passed around for selfies

  • 18-02-2016 11:11pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭


    A crowd of idiots decided it was a great idea to pass a dolphin around for stupid selfies. Afterwards the dolphin died because of being out of the water. It was discarded on the sand. I actually can't get over the sheer stupidity or heartlessness of some so called people. What do ye think? Link below.
    Dolphin dies after being passed around for selfies http://jrnl.ie/2610705


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Saw this earlier. so upsetting. Not sure abiut the question "what do you think?" There is nothing to think about this or options, only to highlight mans inhumanity to man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,694 ✭✭✭BMJD


    People pose with animals they kill all the time, what's with all the hypocrisy of this? Morons


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    anewme wrote: »
    Saw this earlier. so upsetting. Not sure why you are asking "what do you think?" There is nothing to think about this.

    Should have added that I'm wondering if these people should be fined or more harshly punished for this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Never underestimate the stupidity of the general public


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Saw a documentary once where people dragged a dead guy around to parties, think it was called Weekend at Bernie's. Sick people out there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    It's mainly adults in the picture. Kids I guess you could understand but adults? I swear, people today are so utterly obsessed with letting everyone know everything they're doing all the time and how great their lives are. At a match at the Aviva? Better check in on FB. On your holidays, quick tell everyone. It's all a bloody show these days, people forcing memories with selfies and status updates rather than actually living life. Going off topic here but it's annoying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Saw this earlier and it really upset me. Apparently once the bunch of drunken morons had finished passing the calf around they left it down on the beach instead of returning it to the ocean.

    Imagine that poor dolphin mother out there looking for her baby, makes me sick.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Retarded morons. *shakes head*. It's damned hard to lose money betting on the mind numbing stupidity of a mob in action. On their own people can and usually are fine, in en masse? All bets are off.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Saw this earlier. Very sad and very stupid. You would like to think they just were so just so thick that they didn't know what they were doing. Who knows?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    It's idiotic. It's groupthink. It's FB Shyte. And, take a deep breath Eco warriors and PC slaves, it's one fcuking dolphin. Get over it.


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    KKkitty wrote: »
    Should have added that I'm wondering if these people should be fined or more harshly punished for this?

    No doubting their stupidity...but doubt it's a crime. Fishermen pose with fish they themselves have hauled out of the water all the time. Of course the context is different...just not sure criminal law could be phrased in such a way as to criminalise one while allowing the other. It's just...objectionable rather than criminal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    Another reason to outlaw selfies.



    anewme wrote: »
    ... There is nothing to think about this or options, only to highlight mans inhumanity to man.
    lol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    You'd be amazed the amount of ****wits who actually think they love animals and don't think theres any harm in frightening it to get a photo - in this case killing it.
    That cúnt holding it up , I wanna stick his stupid fat face under water while snapping a few selfies.

    dick head.

    I remember I was on safari in Namibia with this moron, who really believed she loved animals, one night a young owl flew into the camp and was grounded - anyway the stupid cow scared it half to death trying to get a close up shot of it, camera flash and all - we had to restrain her so the owl could get some space - dumb bitch.

    Same cúnt wanted to feed monkeys after being SPECIFICALLY TOLD NOT TO DO SO - with the reasons why it is actually poisoning them.

    She also used to go on about her "pet" birds she had in a cage - Do you have any f*cking idea how they get that bird into captivity in the 1st place ??


    people are f*cking idiots, and social media is making it worse - a race to get photos/videos of something just for like whoring.

    F*ck off - I hate people.

    //rant ......


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    I saw this earlier and thought it was sad :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭Dr. Mantis Toboggan


    Never underestimate the stupidity of the general public

    They're a pack of bastards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Another reason to outlaw selfies.




    lol.

    Not sure what you mean by this?

    Can you clarify, please?

    I am giving my opinion on a topic on a public forum. Is this not what boards.ie is about.?

    Not sure what offence was given.

    My opinion is as valid as yours. Please respect that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    There was another case here a couple of years back where a bunch of clowns started pouring cider down a dolphin's blowhole and jumping up on her back. After a while the dolphin lost it's cool and attacked one of these muppets and rammed them up against the pier wall.

    There was talk at the time that the dolphin would have to destroyed because it had now become hostile to all bathers. How about staying out of her environment instead, it's a powerful wild animal, not a plaything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    I don't see a single camera nor selfie in the photos. What really happened?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Jerichoholic


    Selfies and the people who take them are disgusting. Self adoration is no adoration..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,499 ✭✭✭Yester


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    I don't see a single camera nor selfie in the photos. What really happened?

    Fair point.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    anewme wrote: »
    Not sure what you mean by this?

    Can you clarify, please?

    I am giving my opinion on a topic on a public forum. Is this not what boards.ie is about.?

    Not sure what offence was given.

    My opinion is as valid as yours. Please respect that.

    You posted "man's inhumanity to man" in an article about a dolphin. I laughed. I apologise for laughing, it was very insensitive and disrespectful of me. :(:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    I don't see a single camera nor selfie in the photos. What really happened?

    To say the calf beached itself, probably wasn't a good sign. But the Indo will roll with any headline that brings traffic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,228 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Fleawuss wrote:
    It's idiotic. It's groupthink. It's FB Shyte. And, take a deep breath Eco warriors and PC slaves, it's one fcuking dolphin. Get over it.

    It's the mindset rather than the "one fcuking dolphin" that's the issue.
    Mint Aero wrote:
    I don't see a single camera nor selfie in the photos. What really happened?

    All of the photos I've seen show a sea of cameras. I hate to sound like *that* prick, but any chance of a link to the pics you saw?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    anewme wrote: »
    Saw this earlier. so upsetting. Not sure abiut the question "what do you think?" There is nothing to think about this or options, only to highlight mans inhumanity to man.
    Another reason to outlaw selfies.




    lol.
    anewme wrote: »
    Not sure what you mean by this?

    Can you clarify, please?

    I am giving my opinion on a topic on a public forum. Is this not what boards.ie is about.?

    Not sure what offence was given.

    My opinion is as valid as yours. Please respect that.
    You posted "man's inhumanity to man" in an article about a dolphin. I laughed. I apologise for laughing, it was very insensitive and disrespectful of me. :(:(

    i am still unsure what point you are trying to make here or why you think I am stupid.

    In my spare time, I work with abused animals(mostly dogs, not Dolphins !!)and while I'm not asking for your help, understanding or contribution, I am asking for you not to sneer at me and respect my position and opinion.

    I believe this should be a given, and I should not have to ask this on a public forum( so you can shove your sneering lol where the sun don't shine)

    The article below is about slaughter of Dolphins and whales.

    I firmly believe that men's inhumanity to man shows if we can't respect God's creatures(to quote my Mum!!)then there's not much hope for the rest of us.

    When we begin to care enough for innocents then we will have found the compassion to save ourselves.

    Perhaps you have heard about the annual horrendous slaughter of 20,000 Dolphins in a small fishing village of Taiji in Japan.

    There was a stunning documentary made on it called “The Cove.

    But every year in Denmark, there is another horrible and shameful practice that emerges. There is the mass killing of Calderon Dolphins and Pilot Whales in the Faroe Islands.

    Why?

    Well it seems the mass slaughter is a celebration. The people of the Faroe Islands descend from the Vikings, and Whaling was a part of their tradition. But ironically and sadly the people there are being poisoned from the kill. The animals possess a high level of mercury.

    Perhaps you know that Dolphins and Whales are highly social animals. That Dolphins and Whales, as part of the Cetacea order of mammals, are super intelligent. In fact, Dolphins are considered the second most intelligent species on the planet. A group of researchers have promoted the idea that Dolphins should be elevated to ‘Non Human Persons.’

    It may be that Dolphins are second in intelligence. But given the way humans act, I think I would have to question whether they are actually in second place.

    It is known that Dolphins and Whales have a wide range of emotions. Maybe they even surpass humans in their emotional intelligence.

    Take a look at the mass murder of ‘Non Human Persons’ below at the Faroe Islands. These are creatures that have elevated themselves to majesty and beauty. They are harmless to humanity. Their mass murder should be looked at in light of what humanity is capable of doing to each other. There is a connection between the dolphin and whale slaughters and man’s inhumanity to man.

    At some point, people all over the world may realize that killing innocents is unnecessary. When that happens then there will be no dolphin and whale slaughters. But it will also mean that there will be no more wars in which the innocents of humanity are slaughtered.

    The innocent dolphins are slaughtered for food, fun, and tradition. Their killing in this day and age is senseless and unnecessary. Humans are slaughtered in wars for profit, power, and even fun for a psychopathic leadership. The killing of humans in war slaughter is senseless and even unnecessary.

    Someday humanity will move beyond desire to slaughter innocents. But that someday may never come. Human destructive practices are destroying the eco-system and the planet. In a certain karmic sense, our cold hearted blood lust is not only killing innocents but it is killing everything.

    When we begin to care enough for innocents we will have found the compassion to save ourselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 754 ✭✭✭mynameis905


    Fleawuss wrote: »
    It's idiotic. It's groupthink. It's FB Shyte. And, take a deep breath Eco warriors and PC slaves, it's one fcuking dolphin. Get over it.

    +1

    Thousands of people getting slaughtered all over the world day in, day out and people get upset over a dolphin? Spare me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    anewme wrote: »
    i am still unsure what point you are trying to make here or why you think I am stupid.

    He was just chuckling because you said it highlighted "man's inhumanity to man", whereas it actually highlighted man's inhumanity to dolphins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    +1

    Thousands of people getting slaughtered all over the world day in, day out and people get upset over a dolphin? Spare me.

    It's absolutely quite sad to say this... But you are right.
    Where is the media coverage of some kid who died of starvation in the poorest kip of Africa (etc) today.

    Don't get me wrong that Dolphin should had lived. Someone should have put it back in to the sea. But when you step back and realise what pulls the heartstrings of people more it is quite messed up.


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    Lol!

    Anewme's outrage at being corrected each time s/he insists that dolphins are part of mankind, or "non human people".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    People get upset about dolphins because they are so intelligent. They are beautiful and fun creatures who deserve more than to be treated as a prop for a photo.

    Have you ever had a dog you treated as part of the family? They aren't human, but they feel like a person to you, they have their own personality and quirks. People who see intelligent animals that way are going to be more upset about this than people who just see an animal as an animal.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    All of the photos I've seen show a sea of cameras. I hate to sound like *that* prick, but any chance of a link to the pics you saw?

    The pics in the link. I see two people with phones as is normal in today's world none of whom are in selfie pose and only one of which is taking a picture. Given the number of people one person taking a picture is hardly out of the ordinary. Also I only see one person holding the dolphin which allows me to deduce the dolphin isn't being passed around. Also the final photos look like it's getting medical attention. From the link the pictures do not match the purported story at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    It's absolutely quite sad to say this... But you are right.
    Where is the media coverage of some kid who died of starvation in the poorest kip of Africa (etc) today.

    Don't get me wrong that Dolphin should had lived. Someone should have put it back in to the sea. But when you step back and realise what pulls the heartstrings of people more it is quite messed up.

    It is a well known fact that people who are cruel to animals tend to go on to be cruel to vulnerable people. It is NEVER ok to ill treat any living thing. Cruelty is wrong and evil and inexcusable and ignoring it on your own doorstep ditto. Far too much of that ..signing off on this thread as some of the post are worse than the event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    Graces7 wrote: »
    It is a well known fact that people who are cruel to animals tend to go on to be cruel to vulnerable people. It is NEVER ok to ill treat any living thing. Cruelty is wrong and evil and inexcusable and ignoring it on your own doorstep ditto. Far too much of that ..signing off on this thread as some of the post are worse than the event.

    You must have some size doorstep...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,519 ✭✭✭Flint Fredstone


    This looks to have originated on Facebook so it's probably not what happened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Graces7, That was stupidity and ignorance, not cruelty, as there was no intent to be cruel. From my experience, the dolphin probably would have died anyway following beaching. Still, not pleasant to see such ignorance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭DareGod


    If this story is true - and lets face it, it may not be at all - then ideally anyone involved would be punished. But that's not going to happen; where would you even begin?

    If it's true, it's disgusting and evil, and they're a bunch of nasty c**ts who deserve to be punished harshly.

    If it's true, as much damage as the "selfie" culture is doing, it's not to blame here. The selfie culture doesn't make people evil. Those people would have been evil either way.

    If it's true.


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    DareGod wrote: »
    If this story is true - and lets face it, it may not be at all - then ideally anyone involved would be punished. But that's not going to happen; where would you even begin?

    If it's true, it's disgusting and evil, and they're a bunch of nasty c**ts who deserve to be punished harshly.

    Steady on.

    Stupid, moronic, clowns...but not sure they were all evil. Let's save that word for Fred West and Stalin.

    Again, they did little more than every fisherman who hauls out a fish and holds it for the obligatory pose. Just maybe with even less utility, I mean the fisherman has the "it's a sport" excuse. I know people prefer dolphins to pike, and obviously this was kept out for too long and would have been more distressed, but posing for a pic with a fish or mammal is no crime and is not evil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    posing for a pic with a fish or mammal is no crime and is not evil.

    What if someone was choking a chimpanzee to death in order to get it to hold still for a photo? Would that be acceptable?

    That's essentially what they did to the baby dolphin; killed it for a picture. Dolphins are on a par with primates for awareness / intelligence too.


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    JustShon wrote: »
    What if someone was choking a chimpanzee to death in order to get it to hold still for a photo? Would that be acceptable?

    It's not the same, as that would be deliberately inflicting pain on the animal with the intent to cause harm.

    There is no suggestion here that anyone set out to kill the dolphin, or that there was a group effort to do so. None. The most you could say is recklessness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    It's not the same, as that would be deliberately inflicting pain on the animal with the intent to cause harm.

    There is no suggestion here that anyone set out to kill the dolphin, or that there was a group effort to do so. None. The most you could say is recklessness.

    So you're saying you think those people had no idea that keeping a sea animal out of the sea for so long would kill it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    It's not the same, as that would be deliberately inflicting pain on the animal with the intent to cause harm.

    There is no suggestion here that anyone set out to kill the dolphin, or that there was a group effort to do so. None. The most you could say is recklessness.

    Exactly. It's not as if they did it on porpoise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭Vote 4 Pedro


    Saw a documentary once where people dragged a dead guy around to parties, think it was called Weekend at Bernie's. Sick people out there.

    The "weekend at Bernie's" was as far from a documentary as you can get, it was one of these really silly 80's comedies.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098627/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    I don't know how anyone can defend stupidity of this level. Fúcking morons the lot them.
    If you ask me killing anything for fun is disgusting, hunting, fishing and now selfies with sea creatures. If your fun or your hobby is killing other creatures there is something wrong with you fullstop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    The "weekend at Bernie's" was as far from a documentary as you can get, it was one of these really silly 80's comedies.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098627/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

    Erm, don't think they were being serious referring to weekend at Bernie's as a documentary...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    DareGod wrote: »
    Those people would have been evil either way.

    .

    I think maybe your definition of evil is a little bit off.

    Those people are morons and assholes - evil might be pushing it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    JustShon wrote: »
    Erm, don't think they were being serious referring to weekend at Bernie's as a documentary...


    I think you just took the bait, which is beautiful in a way given the subject matter of this thread...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    Omackeral wrote: »
    I think you just took the bait, which is beautiful in a way given the subject matter of this thread...

    I guess for my punishment people should pass me around for selfies until I die :p


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    The "weekend at Bernie's" was as far from a documentary as you can get, it was one of these really silly 80's comedies.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098627/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

    Silly comedy?

    It was real, and it was serious.


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    JustShon wrote: »
    So you're saying you think those people had no idea that keeping a sea animal out of the sea for so long would kill it?

    No no.

    I said that holding a fish, holding a dolphin, whatever, posing for pics, it's all different to strangling a chimpanzee. Because the intent in strangling a chimpanzee is probably to strangle a chimpanzee.

    We'll just have to find a chimpanzee strangler to test all of this out though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Trial by social media. I think it's the worst kind of judgement. I don't agree with what happened in the short video. But it's not murder, and they don't deserve to be castrated or whatever extreme punishment they are calling out for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    No no.

    I said that holding a fish, holding a dolphin, whatever, posing for pics, it's all different to strangling a chimpanzee. Because the intent in strangling a chimpanzee is probably to strangle a chimpanzee.

    We'll just have to find a chimpanzee strangler to test all of this out though.

    There was a thread somewhere about alternate euphemisms for "wanker" and I think "chimpanzee strangler" needs to go in there.

    Ok, I take your point that the initial intent wasn't to kill the animal but they must have known they were killing it and continued to take pictures anyway.

    I think the distinction between "I'm going to kill this animal" and "I'm killing this animal through my current actions but don't care" is a fairly thin distinction.


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